IJBFC Chat - February 9 and 16, 2020
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garth_johnson 3:33
PM
Hey
Benny Slackers -- Any suggestions on what I should have gotten for Christmas?
tracy 4:32
PM
Hello!
Sunday at 7? (central time anyway... lol)
Rodrigo
Araya 4:42 PM
Wonder
what Carmichael would have worn at a red carpet?
garth_johnson 4:45
PM
White
Tails and Tie - with Roch driving his car - Hopefully not hitting Louella
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:53
PM
Garth,
that is a fantastic image! I am looking for one of Jack and his Oscarine, given
to him by Bob Hope
4:55
Jell-O
again folks, our Club President is dealing with power outtage, hopefully the
lights will come back on so that she can join us!
garth_johnson 4:55
PM
1942
- M.C. Bob Hope gave Jack Benny a special skirt-draped Oscar for Jack's struttin'
in "Charley's Aunt," playfully dubbed him "the best cigar-smoking
sweater-girl in Hollywood."
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:56
PM
In
the meantime, I am trying to convince Joan Benny that she should let a publisher
reprint "Sunday Nights at Seven" and I will kick in providing an
index. Does anybody want to indicate their support for this project? Joan's
comment was "who would want to read that old book....everyone has forgotten
Jack Benny"
4:57
Garth
that is a WONDERFUL image! I have looked at UCLA and Wyoming for Oscarine and
have not found her/it. I wonder if Joan Benny might have it?
roger 4:57
PM
Absolutely!
5:00
Maybe
get a contemporary comedian to write foreword for the new release.
Rodrigo
Araya 5:00 PM
-Say,
Mr. Benny. On the way home can I...?
-Oh!
Hello, Dennis!
-Hullo.I
was expecting we could talk about Jack's relationship with Hollywood and the
movies he made, from "Bright Moments" to "The Happiness
Boys" (which would have starred him), including "The Mouse that Jack
Built" and...(drum roll)"The Horn Blows at Midnight"!
garth_johnson 5:00
PM
Kathy
I believe you did find this award
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:00
PM
great
idea, Roger! I know that Stephen Colbert and Conan O'Brien love Benny and we can
find many more! (edited)
garth_johnson 5:01
PM
Ooooh
what he said!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:02 PM
Apparently,
Jack never cared much for his movies, except for "Charley's Aunt" and
"To Be or Not To Be".
5:04
There
are a couple of reasons why the latter was his favorite movie.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:05
PM
I
agree with you, Rodrigo, excepting that Man About Town, Buck Benny Rides Again
and Love Thy Neighbor earned Paramount SO MUCH MONEY that Benny was in the top
ten highest earning movie stars in 1939 and 1940. Those films are underrated,
and kind of fun
roger 5:06
PM
Got
a question. Was Broderick Crawford ever a guest on Jack's radio or TV show?
Neil
Ottenstein 5:06 PM
Everyone
still gathering?
garth_johnson 5:06
PM
Typical
of Jack, he was never one to be thinking about what his past accomplishments
were --- always thinking about tomorrow and the next show
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:06
PM
Kobe
Bryant;s unfortunate accidental death reminded me of Carole Lombard's crash, and
that IMHO is the biggest reason Jack would not promote TO Be or Not to Be on his
radio show
5:07
Garth,
yes you are so right!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:08 PM
The
other key reason Jack was so fond of "To Be..." had to do with his
father.
5:09
Papa
Meyer apparently refused to speak to Jack after watching him on the screen
portraying Hitler...
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:09
PM
Hi
Roger, Laura's authoritative volumes on the radio show says NO on the radio, let
me look at her TV volume...TV volume also suggests no
5:11
and
there are crazy reasons why some potential guest stars could not appear on the
Benny show. Lucille Ball was sponsored by a rival cigarette company! She wanted
him on her TV show, and Phillip Morris's refusal was one of the reasons Lucy and
Desi quit them as sponsors...
garth_johnson 5:11
PM
I
am surprised that nobody has suggested I get some Gopher Traps to solve my
backyard mole problem --- to many of you must be tied up with shoelaces with
metal tips!
Judith
Greenberg 5:11 PM
Hi
this app is challenging
Rodrigo
Araya 5:12 PM
Took
Jack three calls to convince Mr. Kubelsky to watch the movie again so he could
see Jack wasn't playing Hitler, but an actor making fun of Schicklegruber at the
time Germany invaded Poland.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:12
PM
as
Jack said in 1932 "Hello anybody?" is anybody else out there, or is
everyone gearing up to watch the Oscars? I want Little Women to win as many as
possible. Jack and Mary did a radio parody of the 1933/34 Katharine Hepburn
version!
5:13
Hello
Judith! Glad to have you with us tonight. We are still trying to figure out if
Laura's power is back on....
roger 5:13
PM
Thank
you for looking. I have streaming alot of the old Highway Patrol episodes lately
and was just curious.
Tom
V. 5:14 PM
My
internet server was down earlier, but it's back and I'm here!
garth_johnson 5:14
PM
Seems
that the crowd is gathering ...
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:16
PM
Hello
Tom! glad you can join us. Garth, I love the Chinese Theatre image. Supposedly
tonight's Oscars ceremony is coming from the new Academy Museum's Theater. I met
the head archivist of the Academy 18 months ago and he had invited me to tour
the new museum., but then there have been delay after delay after delay....
garth_johnson 5:16
PM
...
No Palooka's
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:16
PM
Garth
and everybody, how many times did Jack Benny HOST the Academy Awards? I think it
was twice?
Rodrigo
Araya 5:17 PM
The
same I guess. I think that in 1944 and 1947.
garth_johnson 5:17
PM
Correct
- as per the https://www.digitalhit.com/academy-awards/oscar-hosts/
DigitalHit.com
A
complete listing of Oscar hosts #Oscars
Hosts
throughout the years.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:18
PM
You
are amazing as always, Garth!
Judith
Greenberg 5:18 PM
Thanks
Kathy! Glad to be here so close toJ ack's birthday.
garth_johnson 5:18
PM
Google
is my friend!
5:19
It
also helps to have three monitors set up for doing such research
5:19
And
we take you now to Hollywood ...
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:19
PM
so,
if anyone would like to help me plead to Joan Benny to allow a good publisher to
republish "Sunday Nights at Seven" please send me a line to my email
at khfuller@aol.com
Judith
Greenberg 5:20 PM
How
can I help?
tracy 5:21
PM
Late
to the party here, Kathy Fuller, you know Joan??
5:22
I
will help in anyway I can. Joan was kind enough to give me a quote for a vintage
radio presentation that I do here in Tennessee.?
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:22
PM
as
I mentioned, she thinks nobody cares about Jack anymore. Let's change her mind!
As a bonus, I am trying to get her to let us see Jack's original
autobiographical manuscript, as a couple of snippets I have
"accidentally" seen show him using more Yiddish phrases sentimentally
in talking about his childhood. Jack's connections to his Jewish heritage have
been so understudied! (and besides, I would love to see if there were tiny bits
that Mary Livingstone Benny had censorred out)
tracy 5:23
PM
I
almost cried when I received it (via Laura’s help!)
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:23
PM
Thank
you so much, Judith and Tracy! Simply a few good words sent to me at khfuller@aol.com
will help me in the letter I am writing to Joan Benny to plead our case!
5:25
Tracy,
Judith and everybody, no I have not been so fortunate as to be in contact with
Joan Benny myself. Laura Leibowitz is a marvelous go-between and very sensitive
steward of our club and connections to the Benny family. Laura has helped me in
a million ways. And hopefully we can present a compelling case to Joan to allow
a really good publisher who specializes in radio history to republish the book!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:26 PM
Too
bad the newsreel only showed Jack at the end of the Oscars bit.
Judith
Greenberg 5:26 PM
I
cannot see why she would object.
garth_johnson 5:28
PM
Joanie
is firmly in the "Pro" Benny camp!
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:28
PM
I
agree with you, Judith! We just need to convince her that Jack Benny still
matters. I do this every semester in my media history classes. He has moved from
great performer to a CLASSIC who must be studied, like Chaplin and the Marx
Brothers, to understand American entertainment. GARTH I love that image! hahaha
Judith
Greenberg 5:30 PM
I
would love to take your course.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:33
PM
we
have great fun and work hard, Judith! Several of my comedy course aluma have
gotten jobs at places like the Stephen Colbert show! Right now my upper level
history course is on women and gender issues in the 1960s. First weeks I gave
each of the students an issue of Ladies Home Journal in 1960 to read and
analyze. Now we are moving to the craziness of Beatlemania for both young women
and men. Then on to campus life and protest on their UTexas at Austin campus,
its such great fun, and one area of history that students WANT to learn more
about, hooray!
garth_johnson 5:33
PM
Kathy
-- If logic can't persuade Joan, use sentiment like this 2017 picture from Helen
Grace Birdsall getting her copy of the book signed during the New York screening
of To Be Or Not To Be.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:34
PM
oh
that is so wonderful Garth, thank you!
Judith
Greenberg 5:34 PM
Please
call me Judy. gotta change it somehow someday.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:35
PM
haha
that is great Judy, my graduate students have a bit of a hard time moving from
"Dr Fuller-Seeley" to Kathy, but I help them : )
Judith
Greenberg 5:36 PM
I
lived through Beatlemania.
5:38
Now
I have to figure out what to do with all the Beatles stuff I collected.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:38
PM
that
is our topic this next week! Tomorrow I will show clips from the Feb 9 1964
show. It is my first TV memory, apart from the Kennedy funeral . Its amazing
what ELSE was on the Sullivan show that week. We end the week with newspaper
research on the craziness of the Beatles performing in Dallas TX in September
1964, during their first tour. It was 10 months after the JFK assasination and a
cathartic moment for young people in the city.
Neil
Ottenstein 5:38 PM
There
may be a popular arts museum somewhere that may be interested.
tracy 5:39
PM
Kathy,
message sent. Is that what you had in mind?
Neil
Ottenstein 5:39 PM
Kathy,
are you on Frank Branchini's Beatles email list? beatlefanfcb@comcast.net
garth_johnson 5:40
PM
Somebody
must have said the secret word -- here is another newsreel
MPEG
4 Video
1964-08-23_-_newsreel_-_hollywood_stars_react_to_beatles_at_hollywood_bowl.mp4
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:40
PM
Hello
Neil, yes! I am figuring out where to donate all the Jack Benny material I have
collected. The Grammy Museum has a wonderful traveling exhibit on Bealtemania,
it or the Rock and Roll Museum in Celeveland could be good homes'
Neil
Ottenstein 5:40 PM
Rather,
Judith.
5:40
as
well
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:41
PM
Neil,
oooooooh I must join this. I was a subscriber to BeatleFan when I lived in
Atlanta
5:41
Garth,
didn't Jack and George Burns try to dress up as Beatles? ooops it was the
Smothers Brothers
garth_johnson 5:44
PM
No
- but the flip side to "Here's To Veterans" Program #1406 "The
Beatles" with information on Post Korean Training Deadline is The Phil
Harris Show.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:45
PM
Laura
and I have talked a bit about where to donate our Benny collections. University
of Wyoming's American Heritage Center seems better than UCLA in accepting
collections. But between you all and me, the last time I went out to look at
Benny collection things at Wyoming, I thought a number of important paper
documents were missing! And the scrapbooks that had elements coming unglued and
flying around were not being cared for..... just my opinion
garth_johnson 5:45
PM
I
think this is the only time Jack and George parodied any rock stars.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:46
PM
Garth
---- whoa and wow!
Neil
Ottenstein 5:46 PM
LOL
Judith
Greenberg 5:47 PM
Kathy
that is very sad!
5:48
So
Laura had a power outage?
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:48
PM
yes,
and it happens all the time in the archival world, never enough sharp eyes to
keep folks from pilfering things. Here is where digitizing artifacts so that all
can see them and greedy hands might keep away -- helps!
Judith
Greenberg 5:49 PM
Absolutely
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:49
PM
Yes,
apparently Laura is in the dark, haha just actually and not figuratively, so we
might as well adjourn until next month.
Neil
Ottenstein 5:50 PM
Oh,
well. That is unfortunate
Judith
Greenberg 5:50 PM
But
Jack's birthday!
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:50
PM
thanks
for anybody/everybody who can help me convince Joan to republish Sunday Nights.
I get nothing except the glory of writing an index to the book, hahahah
garth_johnson 5:51
PM
Kathy
- it lets you keep tabs on everybody
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:51
PM
Judy,
HOORAY that we might celebrate Jack's birthday in advance!!!
Judith
Greenberg 5:51 PM
Anybody
celebrating? I haven't checked the Waukegan area yet!
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:51
PM
How
old is he this year
Judith
Greenberg 5:51 PM
39
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:52
PM
haha
yes!!! And 126?
Judith
Greenberg 5:52 PM
126
wow
he will be 139 in a few years
garth_johnson 5:54
PM
Kathy
- From my experience in museums with big bulky artifacts you don't have the
pilfering problem, but you do worry about breakage ...
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:54
PM
I
hope that everyone celebrates Jack's birthday , with a shot of Canada Dry,
watching a Chevy and General Tire roll by, admiring some Jell-O and Lucky
Strikes
Rodrigo
Araya 5:54 PM
What
about Grape-Nuts Flakesm
5:54
?
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:54
PM
oh
gosh yes some flakes hahaha
Judith
Greenberg 5:55 PM
I
loved chocolate Lucky Strikes as a kid
Tom
V. 5:55 PM
and
buying some Texaco gasoline?
roger 5:55
PM
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:55
PM
and
lathering up with Lux soap?
Rodrigo
Araya 5:55 PM
Good
evenin', ladies and gentlemen...
garth_johnson 5:55
PM
Lets
go the the Pall Mall and get some Lever products
Judith
Greenberg 5:56 PM
I
may bring a rose to his statue in Waukegan
Rodrigo
Araya 5:56 PM
(Read
the previous with a nasal voice)
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:56
PM
haha
Garth! may we find ever more newspaper things about Benny.
roger 5:56
PM
Pisachio
Jello?
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:56
PM
Good
night folks!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:56 PM
How
many flavors of Jell-O there are today?
garth_johnson 5:56
PM
I'll
just wrap myself up in a Wool Blanket!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:57 PM
Good
night.
roger 5:57
PM
Dozens
Judith
Greenberg 5:57 PM
love
that photo!
Neil
Ottenstein 5:57 PM
Good
night. Nice chatting even if we didn't see a show
Judith
Greenberg 5:57 PM
Ditto!
roger 5:57
PM
Good
Night!
Tom
V. 5:58 PM
Good
night, folks. Hopefully Laura will offer a "Make-good" show later this
month.
Judith
Greenberg 5:59 PM
Good night until next
time!
Sunday,
February 16th
Steve
R 4:28 PM
I'm
all ready for the 5p chat- first timer!
garth_johnson 4:39
PM
Welcome
Steve --- most people don't arrive until after their "5pm Pacific"
alarm goes off.
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:40
PM
howdy
folks, happy Feb 16th
garth_johnson 4:41
PM
"I'm
hungry for something, but it seems so far away ..."
4:42
Hey
Kathy perchance you have seen the American Master's video on Aimee Semple
McPherson --- thought I'd bring it up as I saw mention in my newsfeed a day or
so ago
Steve
R 4:42 PM
Thanks
Garth! Hello Kathy, it's STeve Garland- we're FB friends
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:43
PM
Hello
Steve and Garth! I am in the midst of trying to persuade Joan Benny to let a
publisher (BearManor Media) republish Sunday Nights at Seven. And she is balking
as she thinks no one cares about Jack Benny any more. If you folks or anyone
else would like to support my petitioning, glad to hear it. Ooooooooh no Garth,
I think Aimee is fascinating, and have not seen that. Will look it up tout
suite!
4:43
Steve!
Well glad to see you here too : )
Steve
R 4:44 PM
I'll
support it! I -as you you- adore Jack, and so does my wife, and my 25 year old
daughter!
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:44
PM
yay!
4:45
Garth,
I give up, the quote is from......?
garth_johnson 4:46
PM
Kathy
- you can find the link in your Facebook chat
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:46
PM
not
Don Wilson and Jell-O, certainly hahaha
Rodrigo
Araya 4:46 PM
Listening
to Kit Carson Benny...
garth_johnson 4:46
PM
"I'm
hungry for something, but it seems so far away ... That Sentimental Sandwich For
Two" - Dotty sings it in "Man About Town"
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:47
PM
hahaha!!!
Garth you are amazing. What songs they wrote, back in the day
garth_johnson 4:48
PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnyByjqkKHs
YouTube | Croonr1
That
Sentimental Sandwich (1939) - Dorothy Lamour
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:48
PM
I
am having more than enough trouble with my undergraduates, talking about
Beatlemania that happened 56 years ago. They keep insisting that the Beatles are
just another Korean Boy Band. I should show them Jack and George with the
Smothers Brothers
4:49
and
by the way, welcome Rodrigo!
Rodrigo
Araya 4:49 PM
Well,
the Mills Brothers were the OG Boy Band.
garth_johnson 4:49
PM
You've
been Smothered!
4:52
Mother
Always liked you better!
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:52
PM
haha!
Steve
R 4:53 PM
on
the right is one of my first serious interviews- this is me and george burns
from 1983!
4:53
I
look like I was 12 there, lol.
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:53
PM
oh
wow, what a great photo and experience, Steve!
garth_johnson 4:54
PM
From
the desk of Natty B.
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:55
PM
Gracie
must have been bowled over in laughter, in the hereafter, to see how much
George's career took off in his later years
Steve
R 4:56 PM
Thanks
Kathy! I was working on air for CBS at the time in San Francisco, when I asked
for the assignment to go up and interview him at his press conference at
Ceaser's Palace in Lake Tahoe- he and Irving Fein we're so nice, -I just kept
asking more and mroe questions, and ended up walking them both back to George's
dressing room. When I kept telling Irving all about reading his book on Jack, he
and I hit it off, and he invited my wife and I back the following weekend to do
an extended interview of him as well, which I did!
kathy_fuller_seeley 4:57
PM
oh
wow, that is such a fantastic story, Steve!!!!!
Rodrigo
Araya 4:58 PM
Was
just listening to the final broadcast of February 1943 once again, and I
couldn't suspect Jack sounded like he had the pneumonia that threatened his life
and kept him off the air for a few weeks...
Steve
R 4:58 PM
It
was ana amazing time, and both of them had fun things to say, and very
informative to talk to Irving about HIS career, the "story behind the
story" as it were. That's just another reason why I admire you and Laura so
much, you've both given me so many hours of enjoyment reading your material on
Jack and all the co-stars in and around him, thank you for that!
Neil
Ottenstein 5:00 PM
Good
evening
Laura
Leibowitz 5:00 PM
Hey
Steve...glad we BOTH could make it this week!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:00 PM
Hello,
Mr. Benny!
Steve
R 5:00 PM
Jello
Neil!
5:00
Me
too Laura! You had quite a "blackout" last week!
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:01
PM
Wow
Rodrigo, I appreciate how carefully you are listening to Jack's shows. And it
makes me wonder what it was like for fans in 1943, did they listen as intently
when it was live? Sometimes I think YES for the ways the live audience reacts to
the show when they were in the audience. But to think that NO listeners at the
time could ever have heard the shows again, when we can listen to them over and
over....
Laura
Leibowitz 5:01 PM
Wow...great
crowd on early tonight!
5:01
Steve
- Tell me about it...
Neil
Ottenstein 5:01 PM
Laura
- I'm glad you decided to do a make-up day
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:01
PM
and
LUCKY you, Steve, I am so glad that you were thoughtful to conduct the
interviews and capture that history that otherwise would have disappeared!
Steve
R 5:02 PM
I've
got it all written in a chapter of a book I'm working on, if I ever get it
finished!
Laura
Leibowitz 5:02 PM
Neil
- Thanks much. Glad it all came together.
Rodrigo
Araya 5:02 PM
Kathy.
If they were like me, I don"t think they'd follow the entire show.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:03
PM
yay,
Steve! glad to hear you have a project in the works
Rodrigo
Araya 5:03 PM
They'd
listen while having dinner.
Steve
R 5:03 PM
We're
were all here early...my busy sunday schedule of napping and such...
Laura
Leibowitz 5:03 PM
Rodrigo
- I bet a lot of people did
garth_johnson 5:03
PM
"I'm
hungry for something, but it seems so far away ..."
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:04
PM
Rodrigo
I agree, sometimes I get lost and have to do research to understand the jokes
that they laugh at (perhaps involving then-current pop culture)
Laura
Leibowitz 5:04 PM
Eastern
Columbia, Broadway at Ninth
garth_johnson 5:04
PM
No
radio in the dining room
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:04
PM
yes,
Laura! That one took me years to figure out
5:05
Thank
goodness for the internets
Laura
Leibowitz 5:05 PM
Amen.
I was asked to explain "Greenberg's on Third" last night. Hope I got
it right.
5:05
Garth
- And people look pretty dejected about that.
garth_johnson 5:05
PM
Is
he still stuck out there?
Steve
R 5:06 PM
which
reminds me, there is one I have never figured out. DUring one of the Benny Allen
shows, ALlen mentions "with that grey hair, I thought you were (sounds
like) Barbara Freechee"...and the audience laughs, I am sure I goofed up
the womans real name....who was it?
Rodrigo
Araya 5:06 PM
Last
Friday was Jack's 126, so I guess if we could listen to the show he did before
turning 39 for the twelfth time.
5:07
As
well as watch the show with Kirk.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:07
PM
well,
Barbara Fritchie (sp) was a woman in Fredrick Maryland in the Revolutionary war
who said something about touching her old grey head before tearing down the
colonie's flag, or some such,. She was old and grey, and so was Benny.
Laura
Leibowitz 5:08 PM
Leave
it to a guy from Boston to make a Revolutionary War reference
Steve
R 5:08 PM
AHA!
Thank you Kathy, thats solved a mystery we've wondered about for probably 20
years, since I bought the Benny Allen FEUD double album!
Laura
Leibowitz 5:08 PM
Gee,
Rodrigo...hope we don't bore you tonight...
Rodrigo
Araya 5:09 PM
Don't
worry. I'd like to talk about Jack's movies.
P.S.:
Sorry for writing so slow. I'm writing on the phone.
Steve
R 5:09 PM
RIght
Laura?
Laura
Leibowitz 5:10 PM
Should
we go to the show, or should we keep chatting here? As long as everyone's having
a good time, then I'm good.
garth_johnson 5:10
PM
I've
seen writing on the wall, but phone ???!!!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:10 PM
Con-JOOR
5:10
Did
anyone get the joke?
Laura
Leibowitz 5:10 PM
If
this were Winky Dink and You, we could write on the television
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:10
PM
what
have you got for us tonight, Madame President?
garth_johnson 5:10
PM
that's
a name?
Laura
Leibowitz 5:10 PM
Rodrigo
- I get it
Neil
Ottenstein 5:10 PM
Stan
Freberg has a song about Barabra Fritchie on his USA album
Laura
Leibowitz 5:11 PM
Well,
this may seem a little late since I'm a week late, but figured the time was
right to remember Kirk Douglas' passing
Steve
R 5:11 PM
Thanks
Neil!
Rodrigo
Araya 5:11 PM
If
Mr. Benny wants to keep in pictures, he must first learn to speak English.
Laura
Leibowitz 5:11 PM
Hollywood
Revue of 1929
5:12
No,
Kirk Douglas wasn't in the Hollywood Revue of 1929
Steve
R 5:12 PM
LOL
garth_johnson 5:12
PM
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:12
PM
also
-- one more pitch -- if anyone would like to contribute to the letter writing
campaign to Joan Benny to get her to agree to republish Sunday Nights at Seven,
please be in touch with Laura or me!
tkonek 5:12
PM
Hi
Folks
Neil
Ottenstein 5:12 PM
It
is on Vol. 2 "Barbara Frietchie, Martyr of the Year"
Laura
Leibowitz 5:12 PM
Hey
Ted!
Steve
R 5:13 PM
Didn't
he play "BYE BYE BLUE" in that revue, LOL?
Rodrigo
Araya 5:13 PM
Contribute
as a signer?
Neil
Ottenstein 5:13 PM
And
it was during the Civil War
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:13
PM
Jack
had Bessie Love in his pocket
Laura
Leibowitz 5:13 PM
Steve
- Yes, in G cleft
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:14
PM
thanks
Neil, she was slightly less old and grey, then haha
Neil
Ottenstein 5:14 PM
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45483/barbara-frietchie
Poetry
Foundation
Barbara
Frietchie by John Greenleaf Whittier | Poetry Foundation
Up
from the meadows rich with corn,
Steve
R 5:14 PM
LOL
I thought it was in the key of Always B Flat?
Laura
Leibowitz 5:14 PM
As
we say in choir, "Don't B flat, B natural."
Neil
Ottenstein 5:14 PM
“Shoot,
if you must, this old gray head,
But
spare your country’s flag,” she said.
Rodrigo
Araya 5:14 PM
Corn?
Phil!
Laura
Leibowitz 5:15 PM
Barbara
Fritchie was Jack's girlfriend when he was young.
5:15
(Just
kidding)
Rodrigo
Araya 5:15 PM
She
was too young for him.
Laura
Leibowitz 5:15 PM
Ha!
5:15
OK,
on that note...
garth_johnson 5:16
PM
On
that note we will all sing "Singing In The Rain..."
Laura
Leibowitz 5:16 PM
Let's
meet on Watch2Gether
Afterwards
we'll come back to the room and discuss.
kathy_fuller_seeley 5:16
PM
I
love John Gilbert in this movie. And Joan Crawford dancing ! (whinnny she is
like a horse, hahahaha)
Laura
Leibowitz 5:17 PM
Please
click on the link above to join the room to see the show for tonight!
garth_johnson 5:52
PM
garth_johnson 5:59
PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pru3Fj9sKIE
YouTube | Colorized
Remote
Sketch The Milton Berle Spectacular 1962 (colorized)
Neil
Ottenstein 6:04 PM
Nice
photo
Steve
R 6:04 PM
Garth
thanks for finding the color photo, and the color link....
Laura
Leibowitz 6:04 PM
Oh,
funny...didn't know someone colorized it. I have the "real" colors
6:04
I
just expect the person who gave it to me to release it on DVD some time, so I
settled for a kine
6:05
Was
trying to think of anything else that included Jack and Kirk
Rodrigo
Araya 6:05 PM
Looked
like a VT to me.
Steve
R 6:05 PM
Speaking
of, any new rare benny Dvds in our future Laura?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:05 PM
I
wish I could say yes, but I can't.
garth_johnson 6:06
PM
I
shared this previously ...
Laura
Leibowitz 6:06 PM
Aha!
6:06
Who's
on the left?
garth_johnson 6:06
PM
Noel
Rodrigo
Araya 6:06 PM
Speaking
of videotape, the 1956 version of "the stolen Maxwell" was apparently
an early use.
Laura
Leibowitz 6:06 PM
Oh!
Steve
R 6:06 PM
I
can't tell you haow much we enjoyed the first set you worked so hard to put
out....perhaps I should have phrased that differently?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:06 PM
Rodrigo
- Really?
garth_johnson 6:07
PM
The
Man Of A Thousand Voices bio on Mel has some nice words from Kirk
Laura
Leibowitz 6:07 PM
Steve
- I enjoyed it too. I wish it had sold better! And that CBS wasn't...well, I'll
leave that there.
Steve
R 6:07 PM
I
can loan you my thesauraus? oh well...
Rodrigo
Araya 6:08 PM
At
the end Don said some portions were pre-recorded.
Laura
Leibowitz 6:08 PM
I'm
not sure who I'd throw it at there now.
Neil
Ottenstein 6:08 PM
that
remote sketch is fun
Rodrigo
Araya 6:08 PM
Something
you couldn't do with film.
Laura
Leibowitz 6:08 PM
Rodrigo
- But are you sure they were on videotape and not film?
garth_johnson 6:08
PM
Silly
Question Time: LL - Other than The Beavers at the Fair - Did the Jack Benny
Program air any colour episodes prior to the NBC Specials
Steve
R 6:08 PM
Didn't
they have some dumb rule about saying it was "pre-recorded" for a
while?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:08 PM
Garth
- Not that I've found.
6:09
Steve
- Around the time of the quiz show scandals, people got very uptight about a
bunch of things
Rodrigo
Araya 6:09 PM
I
think it was the part Rochester spoke on the phone (split screen).
Steve
R 6:09 PM
Have
you ever unearthed a color preint of the beavers at the fair show?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:09 PM
Rodrigo
- I'll have to watch for that!
garth_johnson 6:10
PM
Thanks
- Didn't think so as colour videotape wasn't much of a thing until the 60's and
previously it was Kinniscoped
Laura
Leibowitz 6:10 PM
Steve
- Alas, no. There are copies of the show all over, but none of them (at least in
their catalog listing) has the color element.
6:10
But
maybe someday.
6:10
I
wonder where the McCadden archives ended up.
6:11
That
show was shot at George Burns' McCadden Studios, so that would be the most
likely place to have kept a color copy.
Steve
R 6:11 PM
Good
Question! I know MCA had Jack's kinescopes or a least a copy of them for a
while, at least according to Irving from my interview back in the day, -was he
correct Laura?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:12 PM
Yes,
those are the ones that are (at least theoretically) at NBC Universal now.
6:12
But
they've been extremely evasive about saying for certain what they have and don't
have, especially after the warehouse fire.
6:13
And
the B&W copy was on the MCA syndication set, so I'm presuming that's what
they have.
Steve
R 6:13 PM
Darn.
TIme has a way of ferreting things out, I just hope someone realizes there is an
interest in them.
garth_johnson 6:13
PM
we
need a 39 man march into their offices to say "We want an Inventory!"
Laura
Leibowitz 6:13 PM
There
are copies at UCLA, American Heritage Center, MCA, CBS...all listed as B&W
Steve
R 6:13 PM
Right?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:14 PM
Good
luck with that
Steve
R 6:14 PM
Who
Did George Burns and Irving (theoretically handling the estate?) leave his film
archives to?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:14 PM
That's
a good question. I'd have to ask Marion.
6:14
I
have George Burns' toiletries, though.
6:15
So
when you absolutely, positively, need to smell like George Burns, I can hook you
up big time.
Neil
Ottenstein 6:15 PM
LOL
Laura
Leibowitz 6:15 PM
(It's
actually true.)
Steve
R 6:15 PM
LOL!
So now I have to ask- what cologne did George use?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:16 PM
A
bunch of them.
Steve
R 6:16 PM
simultaneously?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:16 PM
Got
the lot on an auction. It even included an electric razor with the US
Presidential seal
6:16
Steve
- That I can't say. But the bottles were what was left when he passed. They're
at varying levels of use.
Steve
R 6:17 PM
for
when you positively absolutely need to shave your legs?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:17 PM
Or
your head to put on the toupee
Steve
R 6:17 PM
more
likely....
Laura
Leibowitz 6:17 PM
I
should see if it's got any bits of hair we can use to clone George.
Steve
R 6:17 PM
I
saw George n his robe and underwear in his dressing room, while he had his
dresser dressing him....I still can't unsee it.
Neil
Ottenstein 6:18 PM
Jurassic
Park - George Burns
Steve
R 6:18 PM
He
did have his "Piece" on, though...
garth_johnson 6:18
PM
OH
God!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:18 PM
He
did a dramatic turn on a made-for-TV movie where he spent much of the time with
it off
Steve
R 6:18 PM
LOL
YES Garth!
6:19
really
what was the tv movie?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:19 PM
I
have a large poster in my hallway with a ringer for WC Fields in the mostly nude
in the Burt Reynolds pose.
6:19
It's
fun to watch people react to it. Many comments of "I can't unsee
that."
Neil
Ottenstein 6:19 PM
I
bet
Laura
Leibowitz 6:19 PM
I
can't remember the name. Would have to look it up.
Steve
R 6:20 PM
haha!
Turning the page here, Laura any takeways from the episode we just watched?
Laura
Leibowitz 6:20 PM
I
remember he has a down's syndrome grandson who calls him "Boppy," and
then eventually he calls him "Papa Ross."
6:20
Ah
yes, we didn't talk about the episode!
Steve
R 6:21 PM
I
really love the live episodes because dropping lines made Jack break up
Laura
Leibowitz 6:21 PM
"Two
of a Kind" - 1982
Steve
R 6:21 PM
Thanks!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:21 PM
I
just love the energy of the live episodes
6:21
"Do
I have time?"
6:22
And
as someone said, it looked like they were all having a fabulous time.
garth_johnson 6:22
PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoSylTFlKFY
YouTube | digitalmorphine
Two
of a Kind (1982) trailer
Laura
Leibowitz 6:22 PM
There
ya go
Neil
Ottenstein 6:22 PM
Yes,
they really seemed to be enjoying themselves
6:23
Fred
almost cracking up while Jack was playing was great
Steve
R 6:23 PM
I
had never seen Fred outside of my 3 sonds or disney films,
6:23
sons...I
must have fat fingers today!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:24 PM
You've
not seen Double Indemnity?
Steve
R 6:24 PM
No
its on my bucket list!
garth_johnson 6:24
PM
Looks
like this gang had fun too on a different cigarette sponsored show.
Laura
Leibowitz 6:24 PM
Ah
yes!
6:24
Poor
Bagby.
6:25
Trouble
delivering his line.
6:25
It
looks like we lost some folks in the transition.
6:25
Darnit
garth_johnson 6:25
PM
One
of the few times I've seen/heard Bing play the drums
Laura
Leibowitz 6:25 PM
Well,
should we call it good for this month?
Rodrigo
Araya 6:25 PM
Well,
I have connection problems.
Steve
R 6:26 PM
Gee
I never knew Jack to repeat a bit.....
Laura
Leibowitz 6:26 PM
Rodrigo
- Ah got it.
6:26
Steve
- Har dee har har
Rodrigo
Araya 6:26 PM
Bing
played the drums?
Steve
R 6:26 PM
LOL-
really enjoyed this folks!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:26 PM
Bing
bang boom
6:26
So
glad you could join us Steve
garth_johnson 6:26
PM
Steve
R 6:26 PM
Well,
in reference to that, he DID have a lot of kids....
6:27
Thanks
Laura! I still owe that lunch or dinner sometime when I am in the Bay Area!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:27 PM
That
would be great! Hopefully I have my basement in better order for you to see the
collection!
Steve
R 6:27 PM
I'd
love that!
Rodrigo
Araya 6:27 PM
Wonder
if someone ever did a joke about Crosby and Cantor potentially trading children.
garth_johnson 6:28
PM
"I'm
hungry for something, but it seems so far away ..." -- only a few steps
from the kitchen though for that Sentimental Sandwich
Rodrigo
Araya 6:28 PM
Their
children.
Laura
Leibowitz 6:28 PM
Gonna
take...a sentimental sandwich...
6:28
Gonna
have a ham and cheese...
Steve
R 6:28 PM
Now
I want to listen to an episode where they go across the street to get lunch
before the show..."Felllas!"
Laura
Leibowitz 6:28 PM
Rodrigo
- Or pairing them up
6:29
Have
a chiss sweeze sandwic
6:29
h
6:29
OK,
thanks for stopping folks! And thanks for your patience last week.
Neil
Ottenstein 6:29 PM
Thanks
a lot. This was great fun.
Steve
R 6:30 PM
If
you know anyone named Phyllis...
Rodrigo
Araya 6:30 PM
Well,
I'll sit on the piano bunch. Good night!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:30 PM
See
you in March!
garth_johnson 6:30
PM
But
what would June Think
Steve
R 6:30 PM
DIner's
ready. We're a little late folks.....CHat with you next time!
Laura
Leibowitz 6:30 PM
Maybe
Phyllis was Phil's daughter
6:30
Night
folks!
Neil
Ottenstein 6:31 PM
Bye
michael_amowitz 9:02
PM
I'm
a little lake, folks! Sorry to miss this and last week as well, but I did just
catch up on both here. I'll try to be here in March!