IJBFC Chat - April 3, 2016
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Linda Cree·4:53 PM
Hi Brad!
Brad from Georgia·4:54 PM
Hi, Linda!
Linda Cree·4:54 PM
We are a few minutes early.
Brad from Georgia·4:55 PM
Yep, I had to reload
Windows 10 earlier this month, and so I came down to download the program and
make sure the chat window would open and all before the actual chat was due!
Linda Cree·4:55 PM
Oh, okay.
Brad from Georgia·4:56 PM
I'm also printing out some
tax documents--multitasking.
There we go. Had to resize
the list so it would print on one page. Hope I can read letters that small! So
how have you been, Linda?
Linda Cree·4:58 PM
It's that time of year.
Good. And you?
Brad from Georgia·4:58 PM
We're usually faster than
this, but for some reason my publisher was slow to get my 1099-C to my agent.
Doing well. Except for
taxes.
Linda Cree·4:59 PM
Graeme and I have to do
ours too. Not fun!
Brad from Georgia·4:59 PM
No, definitely a grind. Our
CPA is always impressed that we come in with everything printed out for him,
though.
Linda Cree·4:59 PM
That helps!
Hi Laura!
Laura Leff·5:00 PM
Hi Brad, Linda!
Brad from Georgia·5:00 PM
After a while of reading
through lists of stuff I bought, some for school, others for my writing (and
therefore deductible), I start to feel like Jack Benny with a hotel bill of
$128. Hiya, Boss.
Laura Leff·5:01 PM
Hi Judy!
Brad from Georgia·5:01 PM
Barbara and I are currently
deep in the hurt of taxes.
Linda Cree·5:01 PM
Hi Judy!
Laura Leff·5:01 PM
Hi Steve!
Steve Archer·5:01 PM
Hi All
Linda Cree·5:01 PM
Hi Steve!
Brad from Georgia·5:01 PM
Judy! Steve! Brad--oops,
went too far.
Judy R·5:01 PM
that's south of here brad
lol
Linda Cree·5:01 PM
Hee hee
Judy R·5:02 PM
couldn't resist
Brad from Georgia·5:02 PM
"Ya know what, Bub? Ya
can't get theah from heah."
Laura Leff·5:02 PM
So it sounds like other
than taxes, everyone is in good spirits tonight.
Judy R·5:02 PM
that be righ'
Steve Archer·5:02 PM
Sure
Brad from Georgia·5:03 PM
Yeah. I was in a Sherlock
Holmes audio production yesterday as Dr. Watson for 221-B Con here in the ATL.
Judy R·5:03 PM
cool
Steve Archer·5:03 PM
Fun Brad
Laura Leff·5:03 PM
Elementary
Judy R·5:03 PM
i'd love to see that
Steve Archer·5:03 PM
Was it one of the Doyle
stories or an original?
Judy R·5:04 PM
I got a dvd bbc set with
peter cushing as Sherlock holmes
Laura Leff·5:04 PM
Hm...I bet he could do well
with that.
Brad from Georgia·5:04 PM
After the show, the actor
who was in SHERLOCK as the orderly who introduced Watson to Sherlock came up and
asked if I were British. I said, "No, just TERRIBLY affected." He said
he thought I was from the North of England. This was an adaptation of a
fanfiction, I guess you'd call it.
Laura Leff·5:04 PM
However, I'm loyal to
Jeremy Brett.
Brad from Georgia·5:04 PM
Peter Cushing wasn'
t bad at all.
Judy R·5:05 PM
me too laura
Steve Archer·5:05 PM
I like Cushing in the Hound
of the Baskervilles movie but have never seen the BBC shows with him.
Brad from Georgia·5:05 PM
Too short, but he had the
right look and manner.
Laura Leff·5:05 PM
So who listened to the show
for tonight?
Hi Yht!
Steve Archer·5:05 PM
Hi Yhtap!
I did
Judy R·5:05 PM
he did. peter cushing did
his style of holmes like he did in the movie of hound of the baskervilles.
Linda Cree·5:06 PM
I did!
Brad from Georgia·5:06 PM
My favorite Watson, though,
was James Mason from "Murder by Decree." Yes, I listened to the show,
and hello, Mr. Mys.
Laura Leff·5:06 PM
I think this may be the
first appearance of the Sportsmen, if it is indeed them.
Judy R·5:06 PM
yea brad. he was good in
that too
Laura Leff·5:07 PM
So thoughts on the show for
this week?
Brad from Georgia·5:07 PM
Nigel Bruce is actually
quite good on the radio series of Sherlock Holmes stories--much less of the
bumbler than in the movies. Oh, right, down to business.
Laura Leff·5:07 PM
Frank Nelson well before he
was in full "yessss" character
Judy R·5:07 PM
or even seven percent
solution, with alan arkin as Sigmund freud
Steve Archer·5:07 PM
Nice wrap-up to
Yosemite. I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Brad from Georgia·5:07 PM
I like the whole Yosemite
story arc. It sort of is a transition between the earlier and later show
formats.
Laura Leff·5:08 PM
And even the earlier and
later characters.
Brad from Georgia·5:08 PM
It IS that should be.
Fingers lagging behind the brain, such as it is.
Graeme Cree joined the room
Laura Leff·5:08 PM
Hi Graeme!
Graeme Cree·5:08 PM
Hi.
Laura Leff·5:09 PM
Interesting to hear Phil
flirting with Mary Kelly
Brad from Georgia·5:09 PM
Graeme! We still have some
touches of the early Rochester--the mineralized Martini, gambling with the
doctor, and so on--but he's starting to become the insouciant fellow of the
later shows.
Steve Archer·5:09 PM
Was Rochester's fluff of
"gazelle" scripted? I think not.
Linda Cree·5:09 PM
Yes, it is Laura.
Brad from Georgia·5:09 PM
"Gazzel."
Laura Leff·5:09 PM
I bet it was
Judy R·5:09 PM
i'm listening to the final
part. right a dennis singing
Steve Archer·5:09 PM
There's no payoff to it
though.
Laura Leff·5:10 PM
He would have said the line
in rehearsal and read-through, and it would have gotten corrected then.
Graeme Cree·5:10 PM
Yosemite is when Mary
starts to be annoying.
Linda Cree·5:10 PM
Yes, gazzel was funny!
Laura Leff·5:10 PM
Steve - To the gazelle bit
or the whole series?
Brad from Georgia·5:10 PM
I think Gazzel was the
singer in "Zootopia."
Judy R·5:10 PM
haven't seen it yet
Steve Archer·5:10 PM
no payoff to "gazzel"
- Jack just says, "that's gazelle"
Laura Leff·5:10 PM
Graeme - Exactly.
Judy R·5:11 PM
any good, brad?
Steve Archer·5:11 PM
Maybe it was fluffed in
rehearsal and sounded funny so they kept it.
Laura Leff·5:11 PM
Steve - That is entirely
possible. I wonder how many of the scripted bloopers took their
origins from that.
Brad from Georgia·5:11 PM
It's quite good. Barbara
and I liked it a lot, but our grand daugher's too young for it still. Funny,
funny movie, but twice I teared up--the writing and acting was good enough to
make me care about the characters. And I'm not even a furry.
Steve Archer·5:12 PM
Yes, Zootopia's pretty
good. Saw it with nephews a couple of weeks ago.
Judy R·5:12 PM
I ought to go see it then
Brad from Georgia·5:12 PM
I recommend it.
It's nearly as good as
Jell-O.
Laura Leff·5:12 PM
Orange Jell-O Whip!
Judy R·5:12 PM
mmm pudding
Steve Archer·5:12 PM
It breaks the formula of
the current animated kids' movie a bit.
Graeme Cree·5:12 PM
We saw the trailer for
Zootopia, and they didn't seem to know what anthropomorphic meant.
Brad from Georgia·5:13 PM
Great
"sound/sight" gag of Mary Kelly wearing her skis into the room!
Laura Leff·5:13 PM
Yes, I can envision the
sound man with the slapstick, and the audience "getting" it when Jack
says "take off those skis!"
Brad from Georgia·5:13 PM
Steve--I think that's
deliberate. In the movie there's also a deliberate misues of
"naturalist."
Misuse. Can you tell I have
a new keyboard?
Steve Archer·5:14 PM
I like Mary L's fur coat
that looks for its shadow every spring.
Judy R·5:14 PM
teach it a lesson brad
Brad from Georgia·5:14 PM
You get so used to an
ergonomic one, and then yours breaks and you go grab a cheap straight-line
keyboard and your fingers don't know where to go.
Laura Leff·5:14 PM
I thought it might be the
other way around...
Steve Archer·5:15 PM
Fingers! The
kids are all thumbs these days.
Laura Leff·5:15 PM
Excellent point.
Brad from Georgia·5:15 PM
Yeah, our son can TEXT
faster than I can type.
Judy R·5:15 PM
true. I can't use the ones
on laptops.
Brad from Georgia·5:16 PM
I have a replacement
ergonomic keyboard on order. I'm tough on them--it's rare one lasts for more
than a year. The one that broke I bought about this time last year. But enough
about me.
Laura Leff·5:16 PM
Other thoughts on the show
for this week, or the overall Yosemite series?
Brad from Georgia·5:17 PM
The Ahwahnee Hotel--whose
actually been there? My wife and I went, but couldn't afford to stay in the
hotel. it costs more than it did in Jack's day.
Laura Leff·5:17 PM
That's what I've
heard. And I think they also changed the name recently because
someone had a trademark on the original names.
Steve Archer·5:18 PM
It's funny last chat we
were discussing cliffhangers and they of course parodied them with Rochester
reading Jack the serialized story in the beginning.
Judy R·5:18 PM
mr parents went to Yosemite
for their honeymoon back in 1969.
Brad from Georgia·5:18 PM
It's a fantastic place.
Somewhere I have a photo of me standing tall in the main fireplace, without
having to stoop.
Laura Leff·5:18 PM
Wow!
Linda Cree·5:18 PM
I like the story, but Jack
is a bit too whiny in this episode.
Steve Archer·5:18 PM
Hope it wasn't lit Brad
Brad from Georgia·5:18 PM
Not at the time. I was.
Judy R·5:18 PM
hot cross buns!
sorry .
Laura Leff·5:19 PM
*snicker*
Judy R·5:19 PM
been a long week
Brad from Georgia·5:19 PM
When we were up on Glacier
Point looking down over the valley, a little kid spotted the hotel off in the
distance and excitedly yelled, "Mom! Dad! There's Hogwarts!"
Laura Leff·5:19 PM
I keep saying I need to get
to Yosemite one of these days. Been saying that since i moved here
in 1991.
Judy R·5:19 PM
lol brad.
Hogwarts usa
Laura Leff·5:20 PM
Any theories on the backup
group to Blanche Stewart in the "Happy Birthday" number at the end
other than the Sportsmen?
Brad from Georgia·5:20 PM
It's a beautiful place. Go
in the spring if you can, when the waterfalls are at their peak. We were there
in August, and they were comparative trickles, except for one day when a
thunderstorm came over the mountains and turned them into thundering cataracts.
Graeme Cree·5:20 PM
He's always whiny when he's
hurt or sick.
Laura Leff·5:21 PM
A thunderstorm impaired
their vision?
Steve Archer·5:21 PM
I don't know Laura but I
wonder if the bronx cheer chorus would have been thought to be in poor taste in
1940.
Laura Leff·5:21 PM
Steve - You know, I thought
about that too. But Spike Jones was using it much later.
HipChat·5:21 PM
Hi @BobKravitz! Welcome to
Hipchat. You can @-mention me by typing @HipChat and I'll tell you what HipChat
can do!
Bob Kravitz joined
the room
Brad from Georgia·5:21 PM
Very interesting effect.
Not a a drop fell in the valley, but we could see the rainshadow way up in the
mountains--and half an hour later, WHOOSH! all the waterfalls quintupled in
size.
Laura Leff·5:22 PM
Heck, it was a fixture of
"Der Fuehrer's Face" a few years later.
Steve Archer·5:22 PM
Hi Bob
Laura Leff·5:22 PM
Hi Bob!
Brad from Georgia·5:22 PM
Hi, Bob!
Judy R·5:22 PM
I'd love to see Yosemite. I
have been to Glacier park though. really beautiful
HipChat·5:22 PM
Hi @JudithGreenberg!
Welcome to Hipchat. You can @-mention me by typing @HipChat and I'll tell you
what HipChat can do!
Judith Greenberg joined the
room
Laura Leff·5:22 PM
Hi Judith!
Brad from Georgia·5:22 PM
Hello, Judith!
Judy R·5:22 PM
hi judith
Judith Greenberg·5:22 PM
Hey Laura, u can call me
judy!
Steve Archer·5:22 PM
Well, there's the snow
white raspberry as well.
Bob Kravitz ·5:22 PM
Hello from New Hampshire
Laura Leff·5:22 PM
We're just discussing the
show for this week.
Judith - I would, but we
already have a Judy in the room!
Judy R·5:23 PM
hmm 2 judys
Laura Leff·5:23 PM
Resisting a Cary Grant
imitation.
Judith Greenberg·5:23 PM
hi other Judy!
Brad from Georgia·5:23 PM
Judy 1 and Judy 2. Except
that looks like a couple of days in the summer.
Judy R·5:23 PM
hi other judy too
lol
Laura Leff·5:23 PM
Steve - Exactly.
Judith Greenberg·5:24 PM
I'm named after Judy
Holliday
Laura Leff·5:24 PM
Say Bob, is this your first
time here?
Judy R·5:24 PM
oh what an actress
Judith Greenberg·5:24 PM
My parents were friends
with her.
Brad from Georgia·5:24 PM
Cool!
Judy R·5:24 PM
oh man. that's wonderful
Bob Kravitz ·5:24 PM
Yes this is my first time.
I am just reading first
Laura Leff·5:24 PM
Bob -
Understood. Just want to make sure that you're able to join in the
conversation!
Graeme Cree·5:25 PM
This is kind of a loose
episode. I rated the Yosemite Story as a whole, as 10/10, but If I
rated this episode individually, it would probably have been a 6.
Laura Leff·5:25 PM
You know, the horn they
used for the Maxwell sounds like the same one they were using for many years
afterwards.
Judy R·5:25 PM
yea
Graeme Cree·5:25 PM
When the Jell-O Commercial
is the best part of the episode, it's not going to get a 10.
Brad from Georgia·5:25 PM
Probably was the same.
Sound men never get rid of anything.
Orange Whip! For all you
BDSM fans of dessert who want to be cruel to your fruit.
Laura Leff·5:26 PM
Agreed. The
others have very directional storylines
This one is more like a
catch-all of gags
Judy R·5:27 PM
i thought you used it to
whip an orange?
Steve Archer·5:27 PM
They could have wrapped up
with something that mirrored the opener with the feud with Phil and the journey
up, having Phil top them heading back somehow.
Laura Leff·5:27 PM
Yeah, it's like the old
comedy expression for stand-ups of not knowing "how to get off,"
meaning looking for a big laugh to puncutate your exit.
Brad from Georgia·5:28 PM
Listening to Rochester
reading the story to Jack, I was oddly reminded of "The Big Bang
Theory." I can see a lot of Jack's character in Sheldon Cooper--prissy,
prone to nurse grudges (and grudge nurses), waspish....I can see him reacting
like that if he were sick and one of the other characters were reading to him.
Laura Leff·5:28 PM
They figured they'd go big
on the song, and that would punctuate it sufficiently.
Steve Archer·5:28 PM
shoot them all out of a cannon to go find some
Jell-O
Judy R·5:28 PM
lol steve
Linda Cree·5:28 PM
I like your idea for the
ending, Brad.
Judy R·5:28 PM
or shoot Jell-O out of a
cannon?
Laura Leff·5:28 PM
Messy
Judy R·5:29 PM
yea
Laura Leff·5:29 PM
Has anyone tried that
recipe? I was thinking that I might.
Judy R·5:29 PM
unless you do it outside
Judith Greenberg·5:29 PM
I hate Big Bang Theory and
I think Jack is nothing like sheldon,
Brad from Georgia·5:29 PM
Here's an idea for a grand
dessert that's great for the Fourth of July. Mix some red Jell-O with a half cup
of gunpowder....
Judy R·5:29 PM
my dad might like that
recipe
Linda Cree·5:29 PM
Hee hee
Judy R·5:29 PM
lol brad
Brad from Georgia·5:29 PM
Other way around, Judith--I
think Sheldon is a "take" on Jack's character.
Bob Kravitz ·5:29 PM
Tried to whip Jello
recently but it did not whip I froze the bowl and the beaters
Laura Leff·5:30 PM
Thank goodness Jack was off
during the summers.
Judith Greenberg·5:30 PM
how is Jack waspish?
Laura Leff·5:30 PM
Bob - Was it fully set?
Bob Kravitz ·5:30 PM
yes it was set
Judy R·5:30 PM
stand about a mile away
when lighting the fuse, brad
Laura Leff·5:31 PM
Bob - I think you're
supposed to whip it when it's only semi-viscous. Supposedly comes
out like the old 1-2-3 dessert, which I love. Want to try it some
time.
Brad from Georgia·5:31 PM
Judith--For instance, when
he snaps, "I can take a joke, Sister!" to Mary, or when he similarly
says to Giselle McKenzie "Fool around with ME, would you?" That kind
of irritable-but-funny jab.
Laura Leff·5:31 PM
Was it someone here who
shared that knowledge about whipping Jell-O?
Bob Kravitz ·5:31 PM
Love the multiple program
serial of the trip to Yosemite
Judy R·5:32 PM
a while back i think laura
Laura Leff·5:32 PM
Bob - Yes...this was
definitely a (no pun intended) turning point for the series.
Steve Archer·5:32 PM
Well, it's made from horse
parts so perhaps it still responds to the whip
Judith Greenberg·5:32 PM
Brad- to me that is more
Jewish than anything.
Laura Leff·5:32 PM
Steve - Good thinking.
Bob Kravitz ·5:32 PM
Brad from Georgia mentioned
orange whip
Brad from Georgia·5:32 PM
Bob--Agreed. It sort of
segues toward the structure of the later Benny shows. Bridges the difference
between early-Jack and mid-Jack.
Judy R·5:32 PM
oh steve
Graeme Cree·5:32 PM
Everybody in this story has
a role. Jack is the eager tourist, like Calvin's dad always
was. Phil is the rival, Rochester puts a brave face on everything,
Dennis is happy no matter how bad things are. And Mary
gripes. All through the story.
Brad from Georgia·5:32 PM
Ah, I see--waspish as in
stinging remark, insect metaphor, not as WASP.
Laura Leff·5:33 PM
I was wondering how you
were meaning Jack as WASPish!
Steve Archer·5:33 PM
I got it Brad
Laura Leff·5:33 PM
Graeme - Yes, I find that I
really don't like Mary much in these. Especially the second one.
Brad from Georgia·5:33 PM
I didn't capitalize, did I?
Sheesh!
Bob Kravitz ·5:33 PM
I think that was one of the
early "out of studio" adventures.
Brad from Georgia·5:33 PM
Mary is irritating in
these. Too negative.
Laura Leff·5:34 PM
Brad - Hear hear.
Judy R·5:34 PM
she seemed like she didn't
like the script idea
Brad from Georgia·5:34 PM
I don't think she'd yet hit
the balance between teasing and sarcasm.
Laura Leff·5:34 PM
Bob - It was, and it
wasn't. There are some early shows where Jack is being bailed out
of jail. And it's hard to characterize some where the skit is
something like "Ah Wilderness."
Steve Archer·5:34 PM
she was worse in the first
couple
Laura Leff·5:34 PM
Yeah...rhymes with rich,
rich, rich.
Judy R·5:35 PM
ooh
Judith Greenberg·5:35 PM
LOL
Linda Cree·5:35 PM
Oooh, what you said!
Graeme Cree·5:35 PM
At one point in the story
she even snaps at Dennis. "Oh, he's ALWAYS
happy!" They decided making her grouchy was easy than making
her funny (and closer to real life).
Judy R·5:35 PM
yea
Judith Greenberg·5:35 PM
Her name was Sadye for a
reason!
Laura Leff·5:35 PM
You know, there's a
question. When Jack and the gang are doing skits in the early
shows, do you lose yourself in the skit setting, or are you always in touch with
it being "in stucio."
studio rather
Brad from Georgia·5:35 PM
Do you think she'd offended
the writers just before this series of scripts was done?
Judy R·5:36 PM
or during rehersals
Laura Leff·5:36 PM
Judith - You saying she was
a Sadyst?
Steve Archer·5:36 PM
That's a good question
Laura. I don't know that I have a clear answer for that - I don't
necessarily imagine it one way or another.
Brad from Georgia·5:36 PM
No, I always am conscious
of the studio setting.
Judy R·5:36 PM
right when they can do
changes
Brad from Georgia·5:36 PM
Of course, it helps that
Jack occasionally says, "You ought to read that again," or some such.
Laura Leff·5:37 PM
Brad - That's an
interesting question. She plays it awfully well if she did.
Bob Kravitz ·5:37 PM
To me they were "out
of the studio" Good sound effects and scripts.
Brad from Georgia·5:37 PM
I was mostly joking, but
her character is unusually vinegary in these shows.
Linda Cree·5:37 PM
I'm always unconscious...I
mean, I'm out of the studio.
Laura Leff·5:38 PM
Funny as I'm thinking about
it...things like schoolroom scenes and "Who Killed Mr. X?" that are
closer to vaudeville, I always have the sense of them doing a play.
Steve Archer·5:38 PM
In these shows I was
definitely picturing the Yosemite setting, but sometimes in the skits like
Murder at Romanoff's or something, I picture them in studio.
Laura Leff·5:38 PM
But things like "Ah
Wilderness" or "Snow White" I can get lost in the plat.
Brad from Georgia·5:39 PM
Here's a thought--was Mary
acting? I mean, after all, she'd had to camp out in the car when they got to
Yosemite after the gates closed, and it was all Jack's fault. Was she unusually
irritating because her character had been irratated?
Bob Kravitz left
the room (user disconnected)
Laura Leff·5:39 PM
And things like this, or
shows that start with "Let's go out to Jack Benny's house in Beverly
Hills" I envision there, or on his television set.
Brad from Georgia·5:39 PM
Irritated.
Laura Leff·5:39 PM
plot = plat
Bob Kravitz joined
the room
Laura Leff·5:40 PM
Brad - I'm sure it's
probably a combination. Jack's going to be guiding her every step
of the way, so I'm sure he coached some of the tone into her.
Brad from Georgia·5:40 PM
Good point.
Judy R·5:40 PM
"i look out my window
and see jack benny luxing his undies" Ronald coleman
Laura Leff·5:40 PM
But considering what we
know of her now, I imagine there was a potential for some method acting here!
Judy R·5:40 PM
lol
Judith Greenberg·5:40 PM
He's training her to be
waspish.
Bob Kravitz ·5:41 PM
Didn't Jack help write each
script?
Brad from Georgia·5:41 PM
Funny--just this afternoon
I asked my wife "Do they still make Lux soap?"
Laura Leff·5:41 PM
Judith - I would say
"Or a JAP" but that's pretty un-politically correct any more for many
reasons.
Brad from Georgia·5:41 PM
Jack edited the scripts.
Brilliantly.
Judy R·5:41 PM
brb let me chck
Graeme Cree·5:41 PM
Abbrevs are rac.
Steve Archer·5:42 PM
Rarely will you hear
background type sound effects trying to create a scene - for example, unless
there's a specific gag like "Anaheim, Azusa and Cucamonga", I don't
recall a lot of scene-setting nature sounds, racetrack sounds, train station
sounds, etc.
Judy R·5:42 PM
brad, they still make it
Brad from Georgia·5:42 PM
I think all of Jack's
writers agreed he had an unerring sense of pacing and character. Timing, too.
Graeme Cree·5:42 PM
I don't know if Harry Conn
agreed.
Brad from Georgia·5:42 PM
Good to know, Judy. I'd
never in a million years BUY it, but it's good to know.
Laura Leff·5:42 PM
Graeme - Yeah, snap!
Judith Greenberg·5:42 PM
Laura - I hate to say
you're right, but Jack never complained did he?
Judy R·5:42 PM
brb my cat needs her "mupper"
Bob Kravitz ·5:42 PM
Jack inserted as much humor
as he could in each script. He was obviously brilliant since we are still
listening to the shows and discussing them.
Brad from Georgia·5:43 PM
Well, yeah, there's always
an outlier, Graeme!
Steve Archer·5:43 PM
Is that like a rubber
muppet?
Laura Leff·5:43 PM
Judith - Well, this is
where we get into that blurry area of the on-mike characters and the off-mike
people.
Judith Greenberg·5:44 PM
I still love the shows with
Mary. One of my favorites is how Jack met Mary. The
top hat on the TV show just kills it.
Brad from Georgia·5:44 PM
On one occasion, didn't
Jack ask for a change in a line--"We need something better"--and the
writers conferred and told him, "Well, we'll change it--because there's
always the chance that all of us are wrong and you're right"? And Jack
broke up completely and then said, "NOW I wouldn't change that line for a
million dollars!"
Judy R·5:44 PM
back
Laura Leff·5:44 PM
With Mary, we know now that
she, at some point, turned into the insecure, mike-fright, imperious individual
that many knew but few loved.
Linda Cree·5:45 PM
Yes, Brad.
Laura Leff·5:45 PM
Brad - Yep, I think that
was George Balzer who said that to him.
Judy R·5:45 PM
read "sunday nights at
seven" it mentions how mary actually was
Steve Archer·5:45 PM
I wonder if Mary was a
little softer edged in her youth. Most of the really famous stories
about her are from later on.
Laura Leff·5:45 PM
So in shows like this where
she's being an annoying shrew, it gets so hard to separate fact from fiction.
Brad from Georgia·5:46 PM
Pointless to analyze the
dead, but I can't help wondering if Mary's stage fright was partly a reaction to
Jack's constant direction of her when she was before the microphones.
Linda Cree·5:46 PM
Was it really mike-fright
or she just didn't want to do it anymore?
Laura Leff·5:46 PM
And that's
it. Listen to the shows from the early and mid-30s, and she's just
seeming to be silly and have fun.
Judy R·5:46 PM
could be
Brad from Georgia·5:46 PM
That's what I wonder, too.
Judy R·5:46 PM
or she was tireing of doing
the shows by then
Steve Archer·5:46 PM
Well, George Burns thought
she was faking some maladies to get attention.
Laura Leff·5:47 PM
So one has to wonder in
hearing her dramatically different tone in these shows, if she was in the period
of personal transition.
Steve - I'm with George on
that one.
Claims of her low blood
sugar
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Steve Archer·5:47 PM
There's the story about her
having the ambulance drive past the department stores after a "fainting
spell" that I recall
Brad from Georgia·5:47 PM
I still get a big grin on
my face when in one of the shows Jack cracks up and then tells the audience,
"Isn't this the craziest way to make a living?" He obviously delighted
in performing in a way that Mary didn't.
Laura Leff·5:47 PM
Steve - Yep, you got it.
Graeme Cree·5:47 PM
Later on, they also try to
have her to the Abbott & Costello bit, only it doesn't work for her.
The bit where Abbott blames
Costello for everything, whether it's his fault or not.
Judy R·5:48 PM
yea
Laura Leff·5:48 PM
One of our members who saw
some of the radio shows done live told me that Jack would sometimes hold his
cigar under Mary's nose. I wonder if it helped her to get a sort of
"contact high."
Judy R·5:48 PM
just to keep her going
Graeme Cree·5:49 PM
That's really funny for
them. Like in the Susquehana Hat sketch, where Costello just
mentions the Hats, the woman goes nuts, and runs off screaming, and Abbott tells
him "And stop offending women!" Hilarous. But
when Mary does it it doesn't work.
Laura Leff·5:49 PM
Jack's desire for
performing goes all the way back to his young boyhood, getting family members
over and performing for them.
Judith Greenberg·5:49 PM
I give Mary a lot of credit
for performing at all. Didn't she start only when someone else
couldn't do it? She only did it all because of loyalty to Jack.
Brad from Georgia·5:49 PM
Jack's more of a
sympathetic character than Costello was, I think.
Graeme Cree·5:49 PM
Like when he catches cold
after Dinner at Don's, and she just instinctively tells him it's his own fault.
Steve Archer·5:49 PM
And George Burns, and
Gracie, and..and...and lots of their social circle, but not Mary, Laura.
Laura Leff·5:50 PM
Judith - That's
right. Jack's "dumb dora" actress was ill, and Mary
stepped into the role to fill in.
Graeme Cree·5:50 PM
Even though Jack is the
only one who said Call your wife! Call her up! Let's
not barge in on the little woman!
Brad from Georgia·5:50 PM
She certainly has some
golden moments and got some great laughs. When she was on, she was as good as
anyone else in the cast. Except Jack.
Judith Greenberg·5:50 PM
So maybe we shouldn't be so
hard on her.
Laura Leff·5:50 PM
Steve - Zackly. And
I think that fed her insecurity.
Steve Archer·5:51 PM
also that she just didn't
have the "showbiz bug"
Laura Leff·5:51 PM
I've heard some debates
over the years about who in the main cast is the most
expendable. Some point to Mary.
Judith Greenberg·5:51 PM
How old would Mary have
been when she joined the cast?
Linda Cree·5:51 PM
Let's not forget the
coaching she needed to sing on the show.
Laura Leff·5:51 PM
But I disagree.
Judith - Radio cast or
Jack's vaudeville number?
Judith Greenberg·5:52 PM
She was in vaudeville?
Steve Archer·5:52 PM
Oh, when Mary's out the
show suffers. No doubt. Both she and Phil were
irreplaceable.
Laura Leff·5:52 PM
Judith -
Yep. That's where the actress was sick and she filled in.
Judy R·5:52 PM
yea
Laura Leff·5:53 PM
Then you have to start
dipping into the controversy over the year when Mary was born..
Judith Greenberg·5:53 PM
Ha!
Laura Leff·5:53 PM
Believe me, even family
members have wanted to work that one over with me.
Judith Greenberg·5:53 PM
Approximately?
Brad from Georgia·5:53 PM
And then you hit the
mistaken claim that she was a cousin of the Marx Brothers.
Laura Leff·5:53 PM
Brad - Oh man...don't get
me started.
Graeme Cree·5:54 PM
Speaking of Costello, Horn
Blows at Midnight was a better film for him than it was for Jack.
Laura Leff·5:54 PM
BRB...let me double-check
the year on Mary's grave.
Judy R·5:54 PM
according to "find a
grave" she was born in 1905
Judith Greenberg·5:55 PM
so what year did she fill
in for the dumb dora?
Brad from Georgia·5:55 PM
And according to Wikipedia,
in 1906.
Judy R·5:55 PM
june 23, 1905
Judith Greenberg·5:55 PM
was she 39?
Laura Leff·5:55 PM
That was in about 1927
I think her grave says 1908
Brad from Georgia·5:55 PM
So she would have been
early twenties when she first filled in.
Steve Archer·5:56 PM
Gracie Allen was something
like 5 or 10 years older than she claimed as well. For a long time
she was supposed to be born in 1906.
Laura Leff·5:56 PM
She claims she was 12 when
Jack attended their seder in 1920
Steve Archer·5:56 PM
And I'm an ovum.
Judith Greenberg·5:56 PM
She's turning over in her
grave right now.
Linda Cree·5:56 PM
When she first filled in,
did she sing?
Or did that come later?
Brad from Georgia·5:56 PM
No, it was sort of heckling
Jack at first.
Laura Leff·5:57 PM
But the number 1906 keeps
repeating in my head, so I'll put that down as my best guess.
Brad - Not exactly.
Linda - That came a bit
later as far as I know. I'm not remembering if we have an actual
script of their first stage appearance.
Brad from Georgia·5:57 PM
Well, she and Jack married
in 1927, right?
Judy R·5:57 PM
brb
Laura Leff·5:57 PM
I think their interaction
was much what it was in "Bright Moments"
Brad - Yep
Graeme Cree·5:58 PM
I guess there are no
pictures out there of Mary Kelley when she was skinny.
Judith Greenberg·5:58 PM
Someone could check the
1920 census.
Laura Leff·5:58 PM
Graeme - Not that I've
found. It's always possible she's in a photo and unidentified.
Brad from Georgia·5:58 PM
She was sort of a Gracie
Allen character--Jack was something of a wise guy in those skits.
Linda Cree·5:58 PM
I've tried to find one,
Graeme.
Laura Leff·5:58 PM
Better yet, check the
Vancouver 1910 census. No reason to lie about her age then.
Brad - Yes and
no. Gracie was in her own league with her "illogical
logic."
Let's see if I can find the
link...
Steve Archer·5:59 PM
Does Canada do a census
like the US?
Graeme Cree·6:00 PM
Whoever coined that term
Illogical Logic didn't quite hit it. Gracie is all about ambiguity.
Steve Archer·6:00 PM
BTW, did Mary ever have
Canadian citizenship? She was born here in Seattle, correct?
Brad from Georgia·6:00 PM
I'm not sure Canadian
censuses are in even decade years, but yes, they do take a census.
Laura Leff·6:00 PM
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Jack Benny and Mary
Livingstone in Bright Moments (1928) [AUDIO ONLY but COMPLETE] |
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This is a historic rarity
which unfortunately survives only in audio form, Jack Benny's first movie
appearance in an early Vitaphone short, "Bright Moments" ...
Brad from Georgia·6:01 PM
Canadian censuses are done
once every FIVE years, and have been so done, it says here, since 1851....
Laura Leff·6:01 PM
Steve -
Hmmm. You know, I'm not sure. Would have to do some
research on that.
Steve Archer·6:01 PM
Well, if you find her
birthplace I can take a picture "as it appears now"
Laura Leff·6:01 PM
Everyone off listening to
Bright Moments?
Steve - Ah, that's
right! You're up there!
I'll make a note and get
back to you.
Judy R·6:02 PM
pulling it up now
Steve Archer·6:02 PM
Or maybe find her birth
certificate ....
Linda Cree·6:02 PM
The link doesn't work.
Judith Greenberg·6:02 PM
Maybe we can solve a few
mysteries about Mary!
Judy R·6:03 PM
it says it has been removed
dur to copyright infringment
Brad from Georgia·6:03 PM
Speaking of where everybody
is, I promised Barbara I'd finish some print-outs for our visit to the CPA later
this week. It's been fun--wish me luck on our taxes! Goodnight, all.
Linda Cree·6:03 PM
Yep
Judy R·6:03 PM
due
Laura Leff·6:03 PM
You sure the link doesn't
work?
Steve Archer·6:03 PM
Bye Brad
Judy R·6:03 PM
night brad.
Laura Leff·6:03 PM
Oh dang
Bob Kravitz ·6:03 PM
Good night Brad
Laura Leff·6:03 PM
Night, Brad!
Judy R·6:03 PM
i clicked on it. youtube
had it removed
Judith Greenberg·6:03 PM
G'nite Brad!
Laura Leff·6:03 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhh
Judy R·6:03 PM
yea.
Judith Greenberg·6:04 PM
darn
Laura Leff·6:04 PM
I should have copied it
down when I had the chance. They'd found the second sound disc.
Linda Cree·6:04 PM
Double drat!
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Judy R·6:04 PM
triple drat
Judith Greenberg·6:04 PM
quadruple drat
Steve Archer·6:04 PM
Hey, the Seattle historic
birth records 1890-1907 are online. What's Mary's Father and
Mother's name?
Laura Leff·6:05 PM
Well, she's more of a
"dumb dora" character than Gracie.
Judy R·6:05 PM
hold on
Linda Cree·6:05 PM
The other day, I grabbed
the Bradlees spots with Jack before those disappear.
Judith Greenberg·6:05 PM
How many Sadye Marks could
there be.
Laura Leff·6:05 PM
You'd think I'd know that
right off...have in the past...looking it up
Steve Archer·6:05 PM
No records for a Sadye
Marks
Judy R·6:05 PM
david marks and esther
wagner marks
Laura Leff·6:05 PM
Yt
There ya go
Judy's got it
Judy R·6:06 PM
check find a grave. i do a
lot of genealogy
Steve Archer·6:06 PM
No results 1903-1907
Laura Leff·6:06 PM
I should look at what I
have for Mary's birthdate in the family tree
Judy R·6:06 PM
one sibling hilliard marks
Laura Leff·6:06 PM
Two...Babe
Judy R·6:07 PM
they only list hilliard
hmmm
Laura Leff·6:07 PM
I have Mary down as June
23rd 1906
Steve Archer·6:07 PM
Ah, she might have been
born in the City and not in the county records.
Laura Leff·6:07 PM
in Seattle.
Bob Kravitz ·6:07 PM
Babe probably came along
later
Laura Leff·6:07 PM
No, Babe was her older
sister.
Bob Kravitz ·6:08 PM
Oh
Laura Leff·6:08 PM
Babe's real name was Ethel
Steve Archer·6:08 PM
Well, maybe I can do a
little more sleuthing over at the public library and the city hall, just a block
away from my office.
Laura Leff·6:08 PM
Hickey was born in 1913
Steve - That would be
great!
Judith Greenberg·6:08 PM
when was Babe born?
Judy R·6:08 PM
yea
Laura Leff·6:09 PM
I don't have a year on
Babe's birth or death
But I do have birth/death
years and locations for David and Esther.
If that's of any help.
Judith Greenberg·6:10 PM
When was Esther born?
Laura Leff·6:10 PM
1886 in Colorado
So Babe was probably no
more than 2 years older than Mary, which would have made Esther 18 when Babe was
born.
Judith Greenberg·6:10 PM
She would have been pretty
young if Babe was born before 1906.
Steve Archer·6:11 PM
Mary's her own grandpa
Linda Cree·6:11 PM
Hee hee
Laura Leff·6:11 PM
Remember that Jewish girls
were married off young by shadchans in those days.
Steve Archer·6:11 PM
Marks was for sure
"Marks" not "Marx" right?
Judy R·6:12 PM
hey, i;m my own cousin lol
Judith Greenberg·6:12 PM
Mary was old when she
married by that standard.
Laura Leff·6:12 PM
Yes, and possibly Markovitz
in the old country, which was Roumania. David Marks was born there
in 1881.
And Babe was already
married to Al Bernovici by 1926.
Judy R·6:13 PM
oh the genealogy loop. such
a pain
Bob Kravitz ·6:14 PM
Fascinating. I spent the
last few days researching my wife's family
Laura Leff·6:14 PM
Once in a while I find
someone who can add some leaves and branches to Jack's family tree.
Judith Greenberg·6:14 PM
You keep that mostly
private Laura?
Bob Kravitz ·6:15 PM
I have a separate question.
When do folks listen to Jack? I listen at bed time. Sometimes I miss the endings
of the shows.
Laura Leff·6:15 PM
Judith -
Yes. Joan said that she wanted it to have limited distribution
within the family. So I use it mostly for my own research and
things like this.
Judy R·6:16 PM
i listen at bedtime too.
helps me relax. that and listening to big band music as well
Steve Archer·6:16 PM
I'm kind of all over the
place Bob. I used to listen later at bed time and now it's more
random. Often while walking/hiking.
Laura Leff·6:16 PM
Bob - I know of members who
use the shows as bedtime stories for their kids (and themselves).
Linda Cree·6:16 PM
I listen at bedtime and
Graeme has made lots of MP3s of just the songs.
Laura Leff·6:16 PM
In fact, I think we have
some members who were introduced to Jack by having him as their bedtime stories
during childhood.
I have listened to him in
the car during my commute at times.
I listen to him at about
4:00 PM on the day of a chat.
Linda Cree·6:17 PM
I listen during my commute
too.
Judy R·6:17 PM
or i'll take along a
portable cd player with headphones when i wait for family members when they go
to doctors appts.
and the chat day as well
Bob Kravitz ·6:17 PM
Fortunately I am am retired
and have all day.
Laura Leff·6:18 PM
Anytime's a good time for
Jack. Brings you up when you're low, calms you down when you're
tense.
Judy R·6:18 PM
ooh yea.
especially when you fins
you have pets that enjoy it as well
Judith Greenberg·6:18 PM
Whenever i need a smile.
Judy R·6:18 PM
find
Linda Cree·6:18 PM
At night , we often play a
play a slew of Kenny Baker songs from Jack's and Fred's shows.
Bob Kravitz ·6:19 PM
I have been listening at
bedtime for years. It is either Jack or worry about this and that. He certainly
helps me unwind
Judy R·6:19 PM
hey we should have jack and
fred's feus on here
feud
Laura Leff·6:19 PM
Maybe there's a request for
next month
Bob Kravitz ·6:19 PM
Good point
Laura Leff·6:20 PM
That can be done.
Judy R·6:20 PM
please? *looking with big
soulful eyes*
Laura Leff·6:20 PM
Wish granted.
Linda Cree·6:20 PM
I really can't get to bed
with the Sportsmen singing their LSMFT songs. Tried that one night
and it was a disaster.
Laura Leff·6:20 PM
Especially "Ritual
Fire Dance."
Steve Archer·6:21 PM
Or you just wake up craving
a cigarette
Judy R·6:21 PM
lol linda. it does kind of
ruin the mood
better to fall asleep to
spike jones
Laura Leff·6:21 PM
Mussorgsky doesn't work as
lullaby
Bob Kravitz ·6:21 PM
I love those Lucky
commercials. Fortunately I never smoked .
Judith Greenberg·6:21 PM
I wish there were a way to
edit out those commercials myself.
Laura Leff·6:22 PM
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Judy R·6:22 PM
i usually hit the fast
forward button
Laura Leff·6:22 PM
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Be happy go lucky, be happy
go Lucky Strike, be happy go lucky, go Lucky Strike today
Judy R·6:22 PM
lol
Bob Kravitz ·6:22 PM
Yes loved the Sportsman
commercials every week. Every week it was well written and performed.
Laura Leff·6:22 PM
EARWORM
Judy R·6:22 PM
huh?
Linda Cree·6:23 PM
I'm disappointed when the
songs are missing from the episode.
Laura Leff·6:23 PM
The music that goes with
the lyrics above
Bob Kravitz ·6:23 PM
They should you those songs
for another more current product.
Judith Greenberg·6:23 PM
So true Laura
Laura Leff·6:23 PM
It gets in your head and
you can't get it out...that's an earworm.
Judy R·6:24 PM
ok.
Judith Greenberg·6:24 PM
It paid for the shows
right?
Laura Leff·6:24 PM
Bob - Music rights are the
pits, unfortunately. Easier to write something else than license
one that's existing.
Judy R·6:24 PM
meanwhile, on of my
sister's is listening to red skelton, and she tried to tell me a joke, but blew
it
one
Laura Leff·6:24 PM
Too much Guzzler's Gin.
Bob Kravitz ·6:25 PM
Why were the songs or music
cut? Was it because they had limited time on the disc?
Laura Leff·6:25 PM
So what else Benny-wise is
on folks' minds tonight?
Bob - Sometimes in the
early days, yes.
Steve Archer·6:25 PM
Well, it appears the
1881-1907 Seattle birth records are very sensibly not in Seattle, but across the
lake in Bellevue. I don't get over there very often but will see
what I can do.
Judy R·6:25 PM
cool steve
Laura Leff·6:25 PM
But in general, Charles
Michaelson hacked out commercials and music in the 80s when he was syndicating
the radio shows
Which seem to still be the
source of the copies in circulation today.
For selected shows.
Judith Greenberg·6:26 PM
Laure - one thing I've
always wished for was a good recording of Jack's violin playing, if he ever
recorded anything serious.
Laura Leff·6:26 PM
Steve - Much appreciated,
Steve.
Judith - Have you seen the
TV episode with Stuart Canin as a guest?
They play the Bee together
at the end pretty straight.
And honestly, he got pretty
good with his standbys of "Sweet Georgia Brown", "Ma Honey's
Lovin' Arms" and "Fascinatin' Rhythm."
Judith Greenberg·6:27 PM
I'm not sure.
Judy R·6:27 PM
didn't they tape a Carnegie
hall concert with jack as well?
Steve Archer·6:28 PM
The Minstrel Men album is a
lot of fun too. Some of that is Jack playing straight.
Bob Kravitz ·6:28 PM
Young Stuart Canin started
the feud
Judy R·6:28 PM
when they did a benefit
concert
Laura Leff·6:28 PM
And on the Carnegie Hall
Salutes Jack Benny program, he does Bach Double Violin concerto with Isaac Stern
and does an admirable, although still funny, job.
Bob - Yep! He
sure did!
Judith Greenberg·6:28 PM
I may
have. Did Jack have a pretty limited repertoire?
Linda Cree·6:29 PM
Love the performance with
Sterm.
Laura Leff·6:29 PM
Well, he had a few numbers
that were his mainstays for benefit concerts
Linda Cree·6:29 PM
Stern.
Laura Leff·6:29 PM
Like Mendelssohn's Violin
Concerto
Zigeunerweisen
Judy R·6:29 PM
yea
Laura Leff·6:29 PM
Such ilke that
Judith Greenberg·6:29 PM
Cool
Bob Kravitz ·6:29 PM
His playing raised a lot of
money for many orchestras.
Laura Leff·6:29 PM
I think he practiced many
more pieces than that, but there was a limited rep that he performed in public.
Judy R·6:29 PM
and with Mackenzie, oh what
was her last nema?
name
Bob Kravitz ·6:30 PM
Giselle
Laura Leff·6:30 PM
Yep, $6M in dollars of the
60s-70s
Judith Greenberg·6:30 PM
wow
Linda Cree·6:30 PM
Wonderful!
Judy R·6:30 PM
oh yea. lol. so tired i
couldn't remember
Steve Archer·6:30 PM
And now Jack's pistachios
continue the tradition.
Laura Leff·6:30 PM
Was one of the key people
to save Carnegie Hall and many local symphonies.
Judith Greenberg·6:30 PM
what brand is that?
Laura Leff·6:30 PM
Steve - They sure do!
Steve Archer·6:31 PM
Although I think they were
hit by a contamination scare not that long ago - I saw in the news some
Wonderful pistachios were recalled!
Laura Leff·6:31 PM
Oh no!
I've been eating mostly
almonds myself for a while.
Bob Kravitz ·6:31 PM
I missed that story of Jack
pistachios
Steve Archer·6:32 PM
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Wonderful Pistachios
announced that it is voluntarily recalling a limited number of flavors and sizes
of in-shell and shelled pistachios due to a risk of Salmonella contamination.
Salmonella is an organism which can cause serious and sometimes fatal infections
in young children, frail or elderly…
Laura Leff·6:32 PM
Jack's Estate still has an
interest in a pistachio farm, which is processed through the company that
supplies pistachios to Wonderful Pistachios.
Judy R·6:32 PM
pecans and walnuts for m e.
especially mixed with crasins , m&m's and reeses pieces
yummm
Laura Leff·6:32 PM
And a couple years ago it
paid off big, so they put the money into a foundation for the arts.
Steve Archer·6:32 PM
Makes you sicker than
Jack's violin playing, those salmonella pistachios.
Laura Leff·6:32 PM
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Visit the post for more.
Steve - Hardy har har
Judith Greenberg·6:33 PM
So cool!
Steve Archer·6:33 PM
Hopefully all tidied up and
once again a healthy snack.
Bob Kravitz ·6:33 PM
Interesting. Now I know .
Thank you!
Laura Leff·6:33 PM
It must have been
introduced somewhere in the processing. Don't blame Jack!
Judy R·6:33 PM
wonderful
Laura Leff·6:33 PM
So what else for tonight,
or should we call it good?
Judith Greenberg·6:34 PM
Laura, are you coming to
Waukegan for the dedication?
Steve Archer·6:34 PM
Oh, yeah, what's the latest
with the plaque?
Laura Leff·6:34 PM
Judith - Yes, but I just
started a new contract and I have to figure out when to go. They're
going to install the plaque soon.
We'll do the official
dedication then.
Judith Greenberg·6:34 PM
I don't want to miss that!
Judy R·6:35 PM
i'm for
calling it a night. have some Sherlock Holmes, or maybe even M*A*S*H to watch
tonight.
Laura Leff·6:35 PM
I will be sure to let
everyone know when it is!
Bob Kravitz ·6:35 PM
I need to leave and finish
some other tasks. Thank you! See you next month.
Laura Leff·6:35 PM
OK, thanks for stopping
Judy!
Judy R·6:35 PM
oh please do.
we can't wait
Judith Greenberg·6:35 PM
My pleasure
Judy R·6:35 PM
8HUGS* all night night
Steve Archer·6:35 PM
Yes, if there's some lead
time I may be able to swing it, I am heading east for a bit this spring.
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Steve Archer·6:35 PM
OK, good night all!
Graeme Cree·6:35 PM
Night.
Linda Cree·6:35 PM
Night all!
Laura Leff·6:36 PM
Sounds like we're a little
late folks, so good night!
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Judith Greenberg·6:36 PM
So long! Night
all