IJBFC Chat - February 7, 2016
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Brad
from Georgia·4:53 PM
Gee,
I hope I'm in the right place...dark tonight...no moon.
Hmm...I
oughta mention Hans Conried. That usually attracts someone.
Sad
week. We lost Bob Elliott of Bob and Ray. Always liked their surreal radio
humor. Wish they'd done a bit about the Komodo dragon, though.
Laura
Leff·5:00 PM
Hi
folks!
Linda
Cree·5:00 PM
Hi
all!
Brad
from Georgia·5:01 PM
Hi,
Laura! Hi, all.
Graeme
Cree·5:01 PM
It
was 5 minute before the chat, and no announcement. How do they
expect people to be prepared?
Laura
Leff·5:01 PM
How's
everyone doing this evening?
Linda
Cree·5:01 PM
Good. How
about you?
Brad
from Georgia·5:01 PM
Studiously
ignoring the Super Bowl, and how's yourself?
Laura
Leff·5:01 PM
Sorry,
I only just got home and we finished putting away the groceries.
It's
Superb Owl Sunday!
Linda
Cree·5:02 PM
Graeme
is multitasking chess, super bowl and chat.
Brad
from Georgia·5:02 PM
Ah,
the majestic owls. Ron Weasley should've known that thing couldn't carry a
package the size of a footstool. The poor thing.
Laura
Leff·5:02 PM
People
used to complain that the chat overlapped with the Super Bowl. So
last year I scheduled it on a later week, but I didn't see any appreciable
uptake in attendance...
Laura
Leff·5:02 PM
Hi
Kay!
Katharine
Lhota·5:02 PM
Hi
Laura
Brad
from Georgia·5:03 PM
Hello,
Kay~
Linda
Cree·5:03 PM
Kay!!!!
Katharine
Lhota·5:03 PM
Hi
Graeme and Linda
Linda
Cree·5:03 PM
Glad
to see you!
Katharine
Lhota·5:03 PM
Thanks.
I know it's been a long while
Graeme
Cree·5:03 PM
Did
we lose the crazy guy who thinks everyone hates Rochester except himself?
Katharine
Lhota·5:03 PM
yeesh
Laura
Leff·5:03 PM
FWIW,
before more people come on...I directly IMed the guy who was complaining about
racism to better understand his concerns, but never heard back from him.
Katharine
Lhota·5:04 PM
that
figures
Laura
Leff·5:04 PM
I
haven't looked to see if he's still a member of the club.
Graeme
Cree·5:04 PM
Not
surprised. It wasn't really intended to stand up to any kind of
scrutiny.
Brad
from Georgia·5:04 PM
I
always admired Eddie Anderson's many talents, myself.
Laura
Leff·5:04 PM
At
first I thought he was a troll, but then saw the friends we had in common.
Graeme
Cree·5:05 PM
I've
got friends with crazy uncles.
Laura
Leff·5:05 PM
So
whatever. Thanks for your understanding in sorting through that
issue.
Graeme
Cree·5:05 PM
(I've
got crazy friends, but let's not get in to that.)
Brad
from Georgia·5:05 PM
I
haven't read the last month's transcript. Was that when all this brouhaha blew
up? (Brouhaha? Ha-ha-ha, for all you Firesign Theatre fans)
Laura
Leff·5:05 PM
Some
people think I'm a crazy friend, but you can make your own judgement.
Brad
- No, this was on a recent FB group post.
Graeme
Cree·5:05 PM
I've
got a high school friend who's one of the biggest trolls on alt.fan.Tolkien.
Laura
Leff·5:06 PM
OMG,
do they still have alt.*?
Brad
from Georgia·5:06 PM
Ah.
I'm always behind on Facebook. I find it eats up my time, so I ration myself to
about fifteen minutes a day, unless I'm trying to find out what my kids are
doing.
Laura
Leff·5:06 PM
I
remember those from my Bitnet days.
Brad
- Ha...I get that.
Katharine
Lhota·5:06 PM
I
thought those old newsgroups were gone
Graeme
Cree·5:06 PM
They're
still there, but very few people use them.
Katharine
Lhota·5:07 PM
I
stopped using them once Facebook got big
Linda
Cree·5:07 PM
Sort
of like AOL.
Brad
from Georgia·5:07 PM
Ah,
memories. The old cathouse site, which eventually gave birth to snopes.com.
Katharine
Lhota·5:07 PM
yeah
Graeme
Cree·5:07 PM
You
can access usenet from a web browser now. For those two or three
who want to.
Katharine
Lhota·5:07 PM
LOL
Graeme
Brad
from Georgia·5:08 PM
So
we lost Bob Elliott of Bob and Ray this week. I always liked their surreal humor
on the radio. I just wish they'd done a sketch about the Komodo dragon.
Graeme
Cree·5:08 PM
I
had another friend who was the biggest troll on rec.games.chess.politics, but he
was legitimately disturbed. Sad story.
Katharine
Lhota·5:08 PM
Graeme
used to have a Bob and Ray website
Laura
Leff·5:08 PM
I
think Bob and Ray working with Jack would have been interesting.
Graeme
Cree·5:08 PM
Still
do, but it's a Bob & Ray front. Not much Bob & Ray stuff
there.
Katharine
Lhota·5:08 PM
he
certainly would have been supportive
Brad
from Georgia·5:09 PM
They
worked with Garrison Keillor, and after Ray's passing, Bob worked with Keillor
on his own.
Laura
Leff·5:09 PM
Say
Brad, do you know everyone here? Graeme and Linda seem to know Kay,
and I know all of them, but figured I'd open if for an introduction if you don't
know anyone.
Brad
from Georgia·5:09 PM
No,
I'
No,
I'm probably new to them, too.
I'm
only world-famous in Snellville.
Laura
Leff·5:09 PM
Want
to do a quick round of introductions? Brad first?
Brad
from Georgia·5:09 PM
If
you please.
Laura
Leff·5:10 PM
Go
for it, Brad.
Graeme
Cree·5:10 PM
Just
tell us Carolina or Denver?
Brad
from Georgia·5:11 PM
Oh,
okay. I'm so modest...let's see, I'm a retired English professor, a novelist,
and I cowrote the biography of Benny tribute actor Eddie Carroll with his widow,
Carolyn Carroll. And am a big Jack Benny fan.
Laura
Leff·5:11 PM
Everyone
else can be typing theirs while we wait...
Graeme
Cree·5:11 PM
Since
Don was from Denver, I suppose we should pull for them.
Laura
Leff·5:11 PM
Carolina
or Denver Omelettes?
Brad
from Georgia·5:11 PM
I
don't care. I stopped following football when I found out what they did to pigs.
Laura
Leff·5:11 PM
OK,
thanks. Kay?
Katharine
Lhota·5:12 PM
I'm
from just of Boston. I know Graeme and Linda because we are old AOL friends.
Graeme
Cree·5:12 PM
You
can't not like Football or you can't appreciate the big games between Meatball
and Flatfoot.
Katharine
Lhota·5:12 PM
Graeme,
I have missed you!LOL
Brad
from Georgia·5:12 PM
Oh
yes I can can't not like football.
Laura
Leff·5:12 PM
I
like football if it's being played by the Marx Bros.
Graeme
Cree·5:12 PM
The
Blue Fairy just carried 21 footballs over the goal line!!
Brad
from Georgia·5:13 PM
Now,
baseball's fine. The old horsehide. Horses hate me, so they deserve it.
Laura
Leff·5:13 PM
Jack
was a long-time devoted Dodgers fan.
Graeme/Linda?
Linda
Cree·5:13 PM
Graeme
and I are husband and wife and big Benny fans We know Kay about 18
years but who's counting.
Brad
from Georgia·5:14 PM
So
was I, when I was little. I still have a baseball autographed by Duke Snider.
Katharine
Lhota·5:14 PM
I
was thinking that it is close to that, Linda. I met Graeme on AOL in 1997, and
you about a year later
Graeme
Cree·5:14 PM
Linda
is only 22.
Linda
Cree·5:14 PM
LOL
Laura
Leff·5:14 PM
Hi
Kathy!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:14 PM
happy
superbowl, all
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley joined the room
Linda
Cree·5:15 PM
Kathy!!!!
Katharine
Lhota·5:15 PM
Happy
back at you
Laura
Leff·5:15 PM
Kathy
- We were just doing introductions between Brad and the other
folks. I think you know everyone.
Brad
from Georgia·5:15 PM
Kathy
Fuller--the other one--used to be the dean at our college.
Laura
Leff·5:15 PM
So
who listened to the show for discussion
tonight? (Confession: I didn't...)
Linda
Cree·5:15 PM
Kathy
is a neighbor of ours.
Laura
Leff·5:15 PM
Seriously?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:15 PM
Hi
Brad, I meant to tell you that the film, radio TV and media studies folks will
be in downtown Atlanta March 31-April 4. Its called the SCMS conference
Graeme
Cree·5:15 PM
I'm
going to refer to the Broncos as Flatfoot, and the Panthers as Meatball.
Brad
from Georgia·5:16 PM
I
did! Yosemite, installment two.
Graeme
Cree·5:16 PM
Flatfoot
is up 13-7.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:16 PM
i
LOVE The fact that Linda and Graeme live not 10 miles from me!!!
Katharine
Lhota·5:16 PM
I
haven't heard tonight's episode in some years
Brad
from Georgia·5:16 PM
Kathy--wish
I could go, but dang, it's pricey, and being retired I can't talk the University
into footing the bill.
Laura
Leff·5:16 PM
I
say let's call them Huxley and Darwin.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:16 PM
I
was hoping to be wearing a football uniform with lace, like Mary, for the game
tonight
Linda
Cree·5:17 PM
We
have Benny chats at the local Applebee's with Kathy!
Laura
Leff·5:17 PM
That
sounds more like Babe's speed
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:17 PM
Brad,
you can get in free to the talks, and I can lend you my badge to get into the
book booths, thinking like a grad student, haha
Laura
Leff·5:17 PM
Whatta
great idea...
Katharine
Lhota·5:17 PM
how
fun, Linda!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:18 PM
Linda
and Graeme, I got another copy of the George Burns tapes, so now I have the
other tape, The one you digitized is WONDERFUL!!!
Linda
Cree·5:18 PM
Great,
Kathy!
Laura
Leff·5:18 PM
Since
we all are pretty deep Benny fans, I'm happy to throw open the conversation to
any Benny topic tonight.
Linda
Cree·5:18 PM
Great,
Kathy!
Laura
Leff·5:18 PM
If
we are joined by a newbie, we may need to get less esoteric. Or
not. Let's see how it goes!
Brad
from Georgia·5:18 PM
Then
it's a date. Email me to remind me--bradstrickland27@gmail.com.
At my age, I'm lucky I remembered THAT.
Laura
Leff·5:19 PM
So
what Benny-wise is on your mind tonight?
What's
the latest on the book release, Kathy?
Graeme
Cree·5:20 PM
Halftime. Flatfoot
is still up by 6. They usually aren't ahead until the last second.
Katharine
Lhota·5:20 PM
good
to know, Graeme
Brad
from Georgia·5:20 PM
Well,
first of all, if Jack were alive today, he'd NEVER book rooms at the Ahwahnee.
When we visited, a fried egg for breakfast was twelve dollars. For an egg.
Without the chicken, even. When we were up on Glacier Point, the ranger told us
a glacier had carved out the valley a hundred thousand years ago, creating the
most majestic scenery in North America. I said, "Just so they can charge
twelve dollars for a lousy fried egg."
Laura
Leff·5:20 PM
Kathy
- Also wanted to ask you if Variety listed the week-over-week
ratings. I've never looked at their issues past vaudeville
listings.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:21 PM
Brad,
my most favorite Kathy Fuller was head of the World Wildlife Fund, and she/we/I
have an ant named after us : )
Brad
from Georgia·5:21 PM
Cool!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:21 PM
Laura,
let me look for ratings. They might be in Broadcasting or one of the other
journals on the digital media history website. variety might have them
Steve
Archer joined the room
Brad
from Georgia·5:22 PM
I
was listening to the show in my car. I had to pull over when Don gave the recipe
for the cherry Jell-O and stuffed olive dish for George Washington's birthday.
Laura
Leff·5:22 PM
Hi
Steve!
Brad
from Georgia·5:22 PM
Steve-a-rino!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:22 PM
yummmmm,
Brad, have you no faith in the restorative powers of Jello, no matter how
bizarre?
Linda
Cree·5:22 PM
Hi
Steve!
Graeme
Cree·5:23 PM
Jack
didn't stay at the Ahwahnee. He used the Sweet Leilani Auto Court.
Steve
Archer·5:23 PM
Hi
All!
Katharine
Lhota·5:23 PM
I
tried the JELLO snow recipe last summer where you whip the jello when it gets
syrupy
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:23 PM
I
collect bizarre Jello recipes, most of the worst involve tuna or canned salmon
in the mix
Laura
Leff·5:23 PM
Kathy
- I think i've seen the top 10 in Broadcasting, but it was limited in the issues
I saw.
Kay
- How was it?
Linda
Cree·5:24 PM
Pasta
in Jell-O was one of the grossest I've seen.
Brad
from Georgia·5:24 PM
Seriously,
as I listened to Jack's drive to the lodge, I kept thinking, "They got all
the turns right!" I remembered crossing the bridge, then the two turns to
get to the place.
Steve
Archer·5:24 PM
that
sounds...mushy Linda
Katharine
Lhota·5:24 PM
I
should have chilled it longer, but it ended up layered, which reminded me of a
60's variation called 1-2-3
Laura
Leff·5:24 PM
I
have to go up there some time. And bring my own eggs.
Brad
from Georgia·5:24 PM
The
pasta I might be able to tolerate. The meatballs are beyond the pale.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:24 PM
eeek,
unless cooked al dente, you'd have a mess
Steve
Archer·5:24 PM
I
once tried some kind of shortcut tomato aspic using lemon
Jell-O. Not recommended.
Laura
Leff·5:24 PM
Kay
- Yeah! I loved 1-2-3!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:25 PM
I
was the QUEEN of 123, first thing I actually made as a kid
Laura
Leff·5:25 PM
Same
here.
Brad
from Georgia·5:25 PM
Steve--I
did that too. I like tomato aspic a lot, but I didn't like whatever it was I
made.
Laura
Leff·5:25 PM
You
had to stand there and whip it on high for like 8 minutes...made the arm tired.
Katharine
Lhota·5:25 PM
for
strawberry foamy jello, layered was not bad! Especially on a hot august day!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:25 PM
I
think we should put together a Benny Memorial book of Regrettable Jello dishes
Katharine
Lhota·5:25 PM
LOL
Kathy
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:25 PM
or
website link, you know....
Brad
from Georgia·5:26 PM
Barbara
was talking tonight about making a Jell-O dish she hasn't made in
years--strawberry, with pineapple and pecans and a layer in which the water is
replaced by sour cream.
Laura
Leff·5:26 PM
Yeah...I
can post them on the IJBFC page.
Brad
from Georgia·5:26 PM
Don
would go nuts.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:26 PM
many
of the most bizarre in my collection come from Wisconsin and Minnesota
Brad,
my mother in law makes that, with crushed pretzels....
Laura
Leff·5:26 PM
I
can look in the old Times from the early 90s for my roommate's "poison
Jell-O" recipes...but they're far from regrettable.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:27 PM
oh,
there's a 50s canned food website called "regrettable food." I was
plagiarizing...
Brad
from Georgia·5:27 PM
Ah,
Minnesota, land of the hot-dish and the bars. Betcha some of the Jell-0 recipes
had lutefisk in them.
Laura
Leff·5:27 PM
They
love Jell-O in St. Joe
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:27 PM
hahaha
Linda
Cree·5:27 PM
I
don't want anything except fruit in my Jell-O.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:28 PM
they
made vegetable flavor jello in the 60s, for all the "savory" salads
Laura
Leff·5:28 PM
Canned
fruit cocktail!
Katharine
Lhota·5:28 PM
My
Mother in law had the cutest story about her frustration at not getting JELLO to
gel, Not until after she was married a few years, and my Father In Law
discovered that she would set the JELLO in the pantry, not in the refrigerator
Linda
Cree·5:28 PM
Yes!
Steve
Archer·5:28 PM
There's
a pretty good history of Jell-O book
Brad
from Georgia·5:28 PM
One
day long ago I was rummaging for a snack in the fridge and found a little
ramekin of Jell-O that had been there a long time. I ate it. First time I ever
had to chew the stuff, but I ate it.
Laura
Leff·5:28 PM
When
I was fairly young, I tried a quick-set Jell-O recipe that used crushed
ice. It didn't set up, and my father punished me by making me write
lines.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:28 PM
great
story, Katharine!!!! There is a Don Wilson commercial where he talks about
gelling Jello by putting it in the bucket and down the well...
my
jello always came out lumpy, and my brothers would tease me about it
Laura
Leff·5:29 PM
I'm
not sure if that was Jell-O or algae...
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:29 PM
yikes!
Linda
Cree·5:29 PM
LOL
Brad
from Georgia·5:29 PM
I
always used a wire whisk and ice cubes to start the setting process.
Katharine
Lhota·5:29 PM
I
remember making the ice cube quick JELLO in my home ec cooking class in 1971
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:29 PM
Brad
you are a gourmet : )
Laura
Leff·5:30 PM
Man,
now you're all going to make me go make Jell-O tonight if I have any...
Steve
Archer·5:30 PM
some
post-Jack Jell-O slogans: 1995 "It's Alive" (!)
Katharine
Lhota·5:30 PM
LOL
Brad
from Georgia·5:30 PM
Now,
when I was a kid my Mom would make Jell-O occasionally, but more often she'd
make Royal pudding. I hated it.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:30 PM
and
sadly, no one has time to make jello anymore, hence they try all these pre-made
cups and containers
Steve
Archer·5:30 PM
1971
"Tastes as good as it wobbles"
Laura
Leff·5:30 PM
I
think most of you have heard that I became addicted to it when I was about
halfway through writing Volume 1 of 39 Forever Second Edition
Katharine
Lhota·5:30 PM
LOL
Laura
Leff·5:30 PM
Kathy
- Yeah, I don't understand that either.
Steve
Archer·5:31 PM
1978
"Jell-O is thrilling, not filling"
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:31 PM
I
TOTALLY understand, Laura
Brad
from Georgia·5:31 PM
Ever
made Jell-O with soda water instead of still water? With Vodka?
Laura
Leff·5:31 PM
Jell-O: Brings
you up when you're low, calms you down when you're tense.
Steve
Archer·5:31 PM
and
my favorite half-hearted endorsement from 1970, "If it was there, you'd eat
it"
Katharine
Lhota·5:31 PM
My
problem with JELLO is that you have to make it four hours before you are hungry
for it!
Laura
Leff·5:31 PM
Brad
- Booze...that's the poison Jell-O recipe.
Brad
from Georgia·5:31 PM
Jell-O
for the smile of happiness.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:31 PM
Its
all about the amazing Don Wilson, thank goodness he did not use that language
selling cigarettes or napalm!
Laura
Leff·5:31 PM
Steve
- I guess Brad proved that...
Steve
Archer·5:32 PM
Indeed
Laura
Leff·5:32 PM
Four
out of five doctors eat Jell-O
Linda
Cree·5:32 PM
I
found a Jell-O recipe online, substituting Coke for water, which I'm going to
try.
Brad
from Georgia·5:32 PM
My
college roommate used to inject Vodka into watermelons. Never touched the stuff
myself.
Laura
Leff·5:32 PM
Cola
Jell-O!
Linda
Cree·5:32 PM
Yep!
Katharine
Lhota·5:32 PM
Last
week I tried to watch "Broadway Melody of 1936" on the TCM app on my
phone. It froze and I was listening to Don Wilson without being able to see him.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:32 PM
ooh,
Linda, share that one with me! yum maybe with cherries too
Laura
Leff·5:32 PM
Brad
- There was a fuzzy navel Jell-O that used peach schnapps and vodka instead of
some of the water.
Brad
from Georgia·5:32 PM
I
have, believe it or not, had Cherry Cola Jell-O in a mom and pop restaurant.
Linda
Cree·5:33 PM
Yes,
they suggest that, Kathy.
I'll
send you the recipe.
Laura
Leff·5:33 PM
Brad
- I believe it!
Steve
Archer·5:33 PM
From
"Jell-O: A Biography" ...commercial gelatin makers begin by grinding
up bones and cutting up skin and hides obtained from slaughterhouses and meat
packers, and tanneries. if properly pretreated, even shoes and
purses can be recycled into dessert.
Laura
Leff·5:33 PM
I
want the whipped recipe...
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:33 PM
Hey
Laura, have you ever approached the Jello Museum in upstage New York, near
Buffalo? I wonder if they have any Benny stuff
Laura
Leff·5:34 PM
Steve
- Is that what I need to do with my worn-out shoes...
Brad
from Georgia·5:34 PM
Heck,
I knew that, Steve. My wife objects 'cause when I make Jell-O, I chill it in old
shoes.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:34 PM
Steve,
you are right, makes it non kosher, a double laugh for Benny?
Steve
Archer·5:34 PM
Jell-O
a la Addidas
Laura
Leff·5:34 PM
Kathy
- You know, I haven't. But General Foods was one of the larger
sponsors of our convention in 2003!
Kate
Spade Jell-O
Linda
Cree·5:34 PM
Do
they use plastic or metal tip laces in the Jell-O?
Brad
from Georgia·5:34 PM
Wait
a minute--can't you serve shoes if you don't have dairy on the same table?
Laura
Leff·5:35 PM
Oil
or acrylic Jell-O
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:35 PM
well
lets get GF involved again, the jello museum has an AWESOME website, and I bet
they would love to work with us!
Laura
Leff·5:35 PM
Kathy
- I like your thinking! Do you have a contact there?
Graeme
Cree·5:35 PM
jello.com
doesn't even mention Jack.
kraft-jello
- Kraft Recipes www.kraftrecipes.com
Creamy
pudding goodness is squished between crunchy graham crackers to make Frozen
Grahammy Sammies. Get the recipe!
Brad
from Georgia·5:35 PM
If
I shaved, I'd look a lot like Don Wilson nowadays. Maybe I could talk to them.
Steve
Archer·5:35 PM
After
washing, these materials are soaked in acid and/or lime, then washed again until
all the fat, hair, skin, and other nongelatin stuff has either disintegrated or
floated away in wastewater that, on a hot day...well, let's just
say P.U.
Laura
Leff·5:36 PM
In
sorting the clippings, I've been enjoying some of the corny cartoons of Jack in
the Jell-O ads.
Brad
from Georgia·5:36 PM
Now,
that means that lutefisk would be right at home in the stuff.
Grahammy
Sammies. Sounds like something Phil would sing about.
Laura
Leff·5:37 PM
I'm
not usually big on squished food...
Brad
from Georgia·5:37 PM
Way
down south in Alabammy, mammy's makin' grahammy sammies...
Steve
Archer·5:37 PM
Jell-O's
2016 slogan "so packed with fruit flavor, you can't taste the shoes and
hair"
Laura
Leff·5:37 PM
Sounds
like a sidekick for Rochester...
Linda
Cree·5:37 PM
Here's
the Cherry Cola Jell-O website, Kathy: http://www.somethingswanky.com/cherry-coke-jello/
Cherry
Coke Jello - Something Swanky www.somethingswanky.com
So
easy and simple with so many fun variations!
Brad
from Georgia·5:37 PM
Now
I'm craving it.
Katharine
Lhota·5:37 PM
oh,
that does look good!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:37 PM
hey,
they seem easy to contact at the jello museum. I will give it a try
Laura
Leff·5:37 PM
When
the deeeeeeep purple Jell-O...
Kathy
- Cool, thanks!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:38 PM
yummmm
on that jello!
Brad
from Georgia·5:38 PM
If
the Scouts made grahammy sammies, I think they'd be called "No Smores."
Laura
Leff·5:38 PM
Don't
know that I'd exactly term it "swanky," but...
Ba-dum-bum.
Linda
Cree·5:38 PM
LOL
Steve
Archer·5:38 PM
The
Jell-O book has recipes for Raspberry Chicken and Jell-O Guacamole.
Brad
from Georgia·5:39 PM
Si.
Laura
Leff·5:39 PM
I'm
not sure I can exactly describe the look of horror on my face on reading that
Steve
Archer·5:39 PM
Brad
from Georgia·5:40 PM
"You
make chicken with guacamole and Jell-O?" "Si." "How--how is
it?" "So-so." "So-so?" "Si."
Laura
Leff·5:40 PM
Did
they have some hard drugs in the Jell-O test kitchens?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:40 PM
we
can have a special hall of horrors on the jello page
Steve
Archer·5:40 PM
I
should clarify that "Raspberry Chicken" and "Jell-O
Guacamole" are two separate recipes.
Laura
Leff·5:40 PM
I
made a note to myself to do something with the idea.
Steve
- In the words of Rochester: "Oh. Ohhh. OHHHHHHH."
Katharine
Lhota·5:40 PM
oh,
that SI reminds me-- I introduced Jack Benny and Mel Blanc to my son Daniel's
friend Lensey. He has Mel Blanc's scream from the Christmas TV episode as his
ringtone
Graeme
Cree·5:41 PM
I
suppose Jack didn't have a favorite delicious flavor.
Katharine
Lhota·5:41 PM
and
he tries to do Jack Benny's voice and hand gestures.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:41 PM
Undescendened
Twinkies is a special dish,,,, twinkies sunk halfway in jello
Laura
Leff·5:41 PM
Kay
- I think I've heard that ringtone!
Graeme
Cree·5:41 PM
They
seemed to avoid plugging any flavor at the expense of others.
Laura
Leff·5:41 PM
"Now
what? NOW WHAT?!?!?!"
Brad
from Georgia·5:41 PM
It's
OK, Steve. While my son and daughter-in-law were battling the elements in Kona,
we had to keep their dog for a whole week, and last night he would NOT shut up
and go to sleep. I'm woozy from lack of sack time.
Graeme
Cree·5:41 PM
Anybody
know what the most popular one was/is?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:42 PM
Prince!
stupid dog...
Katharine
Lhota·5:42 PM
Yes,
Lensey recorded that at my House to use as his ringtone. His goes, "Now
what? Now What? ---- AHHHHH!
Brad
from Georgia·5:42 PM
Undescended
Twinkies? Wouldn't those be Prairie Oysters in Jell-O?
Laura
Leff·5:42 PM
Do
you have to stand the Twinkies on end?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:42 PM
yes
Brad, in Twinkie form
you
sink the Twinkies halfway down, its in a Jane and Michael Stern cookbook, I will
scan the page and post to our facebook group
Laura
Leff·5:43 PM
(An
uncomfortable hush falls over the crowd)
Katharine
Lhota·5:43 PM
LOL
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:43 PM
hey
Laura, did you mention an upcoming Benny confab>
Graeme
Cree·5:43 PM
This
page says the most popular flavors are Cherry, Lime, Strawberry, Berry Blue, and
Tropical Fusion. Have my doubts about whether those last two exist
at all.
Laura
Leff·5:43 PM
At
least they weren't sinking Lucky Strikes halfway down in Jell-O
Brad
from Georgia·5:43 PM
I've
still got Jack playing "Love in Bloom" saved on my computer, and when
I get my new smartphone, I'm going to transfer it over as my ringtone. I've
missed it. It's the main reason I'm ditching my iPhone and going with an Android
one. Well, that, and I hate trying to get apps from the Apple store.
Katharine
Lhota·5:44 PM
LOL
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:44 PM
blue
jello, 100 years in the making!
Laura
Leff·5:44 PM
Who
says there is no blue food?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:44 PM
I
could put a filter on a Twinkie and make it look like a very round, full and
fully packed Lucky
Graeme
Cree·5:45 PM
Been
reading Fred's book. His own comments are great, and the excerpts
from his shows are lousy. And these are ones he picked as the best.
Brad
from Georgia·5:45 PM
She
ate blue....Jell-O....bluer than Jell-O were her eyes....
Laura
Leff·5:45 PM
Maybe
carve a sno-ball on the end of it
Jack's
eyes are bluer than the Berry Blue Jell-O that doesn't exist...
Brad
from Georgia·5:45 PM
I've
downloaded it (hope that's kosher) and am looking forward to reading it, but two
of my fellow Georgia novelists have asked me to proofread/edit their books for
them.
Laura
Leff·5:45 PM
Kathy
- That's one I'd be willing to tear and compare.
Linda
Cree·5:45 PM
Nice,
Brad. You could have been Benny's tenor.
Katharine
Lhota·5:46 PM
Which
Fred book are you reading, Graeme?
Brad
from Georgia·5:46 PM
Hah.
With my voice I couldn't even be a fiver.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:46 PM
haha
Laura, I spot a fellow secret Twinkie admirer
Graeme
Cree·5:46 PM
Treadmill.
Katharine
Lhota·5:46 PM
Okay.
Laura
Leff·5:46 PM
Kathy
- I always preferred the Hostess cupcakes.
I
thought you meant Fred deCordova...
Brad
from Georgia·5:47 PM
Ah,
nuts, I was thinking of the wrong book...I used to live near a Twinkie factory.
Katharine
Lhota·5:47 PM
I
have Fred Allen's book "Much Ado about Me"
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:47 PM
I
was a Hostess Hohos girl, loved to nibble off the choc frosting then unroll it
Brad
from Georgia·5:47 PM
Everything
smelled like vanilla.
Laura
Leff·5:47 PM
Kathy
- But I think now that I'm Jewish, I can't eat them...
I
think "Much Ado About Me" is a much better book.
Brad
from Georgia·5:48 PM
"Treadmill,"
as I remember it, has a very sour tone.
Laura
Leff·5:48 PM
Even
though it is unfinished...
Katharine
Lhota·5:48 PM
Oh,
that reminds me! I saw two Drakes Cake commercials today. I don't think they've
done commercials in over 40 years
Laura
Leff·5:48 PM
Brad
- Agreed.
Graeme
Cree·5:48 PM
It's
got some good stories.
Brad
from Georgia·5:49 PM
You
know, I think I actually read that in high school? Got it from the Hall County
Library. Didn't it have little line cartoons of Fred as chapter heads?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:49 PM
so,
would the Benny facebook page be OK with some great old Fred Allen articles? He
wrote some fab stuff in Variety and magazines in the 30s and 40s
Linda
Cree·5:49 PM
On
Benny, I've read Josefsberg's and Joan's book and now I'm reading Mary's.
Laura
Leff·5:49 PM
Kathy
- Sure...I'm OK with that!
Linda
- Oh I'm so sorry to hear that.
Katharine
Lhota·5:49 PM
All
of those books are good, but Milt Josefsberg's was my favorite]
Laura
Leff·5:50 PM
Josefsberg
is definitely the best read, and Irving's is the most accurate.
Graeme
Cree·5:50 PM
It's
Hilliard's book. All through it I kept thinking "Mary couldn't
have written this". Approved it, sure.
Laura
Leff·5:50 PM
She
didn't.
Brad
from Georgia·5:50 PM
Started
to say I liked Irving's.
Laura
Leff·5:50 PM
It's
really Marcia Borie's book.
Katharine
Lhota·5:50 PM
I
reemember seeing her on Dinah Shore's talk show to promote the book
Laura
Leff·5:50 PM
The
only contributions from Mary and Hickey are the direct quotes from them.
Graeme
Cree·5:51 PM
I
assumed she just wrote up their stories.
Linda
Cree·5:51 PM
After
that, Gracie: A Love Story is next.
Katharine
Lhota·5:51 PM
all
good!
Laura
Leff·5:51 PM
I
won't quote Joan's exact words about Hickey's state at the time the book was
created, but suffice it to say that his info needed to be much more strongly
fact-checked.
Steve
Archer·5:51 PM
Gracie
is a great read Linda
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:51 PM
well,
you can't blame them for trying to fill the demand for Benny books. Its pretty
amazing that there have not been MORE!
Laura
Leff·5:51 PM
Gracie: A
Love Story is a fabulous book!
Graeme
Cree·5:51 PM
We
noticed that in that Final Jell-O show story.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:52 PM
George
Burns (even if he had help) wrote great stuff!
Brad
from Georgia·5:52 PM
Hmm.
No names, but I once heard a Georgia politician on a radio show promoting a book
he'd "written." It was obvious he hadn't even READ it. Coincidentally,
later I met the fellow who actually wrote it. I asked him "How much did Mr.
X do or the writing?" and he told me, "His name on my check."
Graeme
Cree·5:52 PM
Okay,
halftime over, and Meatball has the ball.
Laura
Leff·5:52 PM
Graeme
- And we finally got to the bottom of Jack's New York address, which is wrong in
the book and sent one of our members into a bit of a research tizzy...
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:52 PM
what's
the score on the Puppy Bowl?
Linda
Cree·5:52 PM
As
long as it is okay, I have some great Fred stuff to post.
Graeme
Cree·5:52 PM
13-7,
Meatball.
Sorry,
Flatfoot.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:53 PM
Linda,
you are a FABULOUS researcher!
Brad
from Georgia·5:53 PM
No
wonder my Christmas cards to Jack always came back.
Linda
Cree·5:53 PM
Thanks,
Kathy!
Laura
Leff·5:53 PM
Linda
- Go for it! Fred and Jack are pretty related.
Brad
- Har har
Katharine
Lhota·5:53 PM
yes,
I will want to see what you've got!
Linda
Cree·5:53 PM
Okay
Graeme
Cree·5:53 PM
45
yard completion for Meatball.
Katharine
Lhota·5:54 PM
come
now, Graeme! I have the game on behind me.
Laura
Leff·5:54 PM
As
I was alluding to Victoria Gordon recently, I know that the Jack Benny Fan Club
is also, effectively, the Eddie Anderson Fan Club, the Phil Harris Fan Club, the
Fred Allen Fan Club, the Frank Nelson Fan Club, etc.
Steve
Archer·5:54 PM
The
Shirley Herman fan club
Graeme
Cree·5:54 PM
So,
what did Harry Baldwin actually do?
Laura
Leff·5:54 PM
Steve
- There ya go...
Graeme
Cree·5:54 PM
As
a secretary, that is?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:54 PM
that's
one of the wonderful things about IJBFC!
Laura
Leff·5:54 PM
Harry
Baldwin was Jack's secretary
Oh,
keeping Jack's schedule, doing correspondence, writing checks, etc.
Graeme
Cree·5:55 PM
What
did he do? Make appointments? Travel arrangements?
Laura
Leff·5:55 PM
Kathy:
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:55 PM
Harry's
scripts, which are the ones I read at UCLA, show him following Jack around,
taking notes at rehearsals about business, contracts and script
Brad
from Georgia·5:55 PM
The
book I've been reading lately is "Slim Chances and Unscheduled
Appearances," by the British actor Edward Petherbridge. Well, listening to
it--I couldn't afford the book price, but the audiobook was cheap. It's an
illuminating book about life on the British stage.
Laura
Leff·5:55 PM
Graeme
- Whatever Jack needed him to do as a personal assistant.
Graeme
Cree·5:56 PM
And
nobody knows what happened to him?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:56 PM
Graeme,
I think you got it, he's the Man Friday that Rochester would later portray
Laura
Leff·5:56 PM
Kathy
- Exactly. You probably noticed that some pages even have notes on
the amounts paid to the various supporting actors.
Katharine
Lhota·5:56 PM
I
see.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:56 PM
I
saw that he got drafted
Laura
Leff·5:56 PM
Graeme
- He was drafted.
Linda
Cree·5:56 PM
Did
he actually type the script?
Laura
Leff·5:56 PM
No
Graeme
Cree·5:56 PM
He
didn't come back to the show. Bill Morrow didn't either, but I know
he worked for Bing later.
Linda
Cree·5:56 PM
I
didn't think so.
Laura
Leff·5:56 PM
That
was done by the agency, or sometimes the network.
Katharine
Lhota·5:56 PM
The
scripts were typed, and he notated them after?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:57 PM
I
think some "script girl" paid by the ad agency typed and mimeographed
the scripts
Katharine
Lhota·5:57 PM
and
up to air time, things got penciled
Laura
Leff·5:57 PM
One
of our members worked for CBS, and was involved in typing some of the later
scripts. Whenever you see BB at the bottom of a page, that's her.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:57 PM
anybody
remember the hassles of making mimeographs, esp of multi pages? ah the smell and
purple ink on your hands
Steve
Archer·5:57 PM
Not
Rochester dipping the typewriter ribbon in grape juice? Illusions
shattered.
Katharine
Lhota·5:57 PM
LOL
Laura
Leff·5:57 PM
Steve
- Good one.
Dittomats!
Linda
Cree·5:58 PM
I
heard Jack would sometimes make last minute changes, so I guess everyone had a
manually changed script.
Laura
Leff·5:58 PM
Chunk-chunk-chunk
(sound of the machine)
Brad
from Georgia·5:58 PM
Just
did a quick Google, and evidently Harry Baldwin later became a sugar-cane
magnate in Hawaii and then a famous British cricketeer. Of course, it may not be
the same Harry.
Laura
Leff·5:58 PM
Yes,
they'd just make notes in their copy.
Linda
Cree·5:58 PM
ok
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:58 PM
from
what I can tell, numerous last minute changes that every one would have to
pencil in
Graeme
Cree·5:58 PM
Did
Kenny go into the service? He should have been young enough to be
drafted.
Laura
Leff·5:58 PM
Agreed.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:58 PM
but
NOT to surprise Jack with "who do you think I am, Dreer Poosen?"
Laura
Leff·5:59 PM
I
wonder how much of those were changes between East and West Coast shows.
Katharine
Lhota·5:59 PM
no,
Kenny went to Fred Allen and did Broadway in 1942 "One Touch of Venus"
with Mary Martin
Brad
from Georgia·5:59 PM
I
recall mimeograph machines, which we used in teaching. You'd get high off the
alcohol smell if you were running off a midterm or final.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·5:59 PM
Gosh
I wish I had found west coast shows, I found a couple different west coast
commercials
Laura
Leff·5:59 PM
And
"The Big Store" with the Marx Bros if I recall correctly
Graeme
Cree·5:59 PM
I
know, but he could have been drafted even on Fred's show. That's
not enough of a hardship to excuse him.
Brad
from Georgia·6:00 PM
Good
one, Graeme.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:00 PM
maybe
his manager Mervyn Leroy, fixed it
Linda
Cree·6:00 PM
I
recall Jack saying in one episode that the cast is surprised because this line
was in my script and not in there's.
Steve
Archer·6:00 PM
I
vaguely recall hearing there needed to be a record copy of the script "as
aired" including ad-libs to account for any kerfuffles - thus why the
"Dreer Pooson" is penciled in. Is that true?
Graeme
Cree·6:00 PM
Meatball's
FG try is no good.
Katharine
Lhota·6:00 PM
Great,
now I can hear Kenny Baker singing "Waiting For Our Wooden Wedding"
stuck in my head!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:01 PM
Kenny's
Begin the Beguine is great!
Brad
from Georgia·6:01 PM
Am
I misremembering, or was there one show where someone ad-libbed and Jack
snapped, "Show me where that is in the script!"
Katharine
Lhota·6:01 PM
oh,
I like Kenny Baker's singing.
Laura
Leff·6:01 PM
Steve
- I know that Fred Allen's shows were kept by the network (now in the Library of
Congress) as self-protection
Graeme
Cree·6:01 PM
We've
got all of his songs from Jack's show on .mp3
Linda
Cree·6:01 PM
Me
too, Kay!
Graeme
Cree·6:01 PM
Well,
surviving ones, at least.
Laura
Leff·6:01 PM
There's
a notation of a show being "As Broadcast"
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:01 PM
yes
Brad, I LOVE the times when Benny breaks the fourth wall and talks about the
script!
Katharine
Lhota·6:02 PM
I
wish there were more from the Johnny Green era.
Steve
Archer·6:02 PM
that's
what I was getting at Laura
Laura
Leff·6:02 PM
I
wish there was more of 1935 available...
Graeme
Cree·6:02 PM
I
like his Umbrella Man.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:02 PM
well,
soon we will have scripts if not recordings : )
Brad
from Georgia·6:02 PM
Someone--Mel,
I think--did an ad-lib and Benny said, "Well, that's funnier than what's
written here." Sometimes he sounded irked, though.
Laura
Leff·6:02 PM
Kathy
- Hallelujah!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:02 PM
same
thing when Bob Hope was on the show
Katharine
Lhota·6:02 PM
YAY
Laura
Leff·6:03 PM
Brad
- Oh he sounded downright angry at Larry Adler once!
Brad
from Georgia·6:03 PM
Might
have been Bob when he said "Show me where that is." Yes, I remember
his being waspish with Larry Adler!
Katharine
Lhota·6:03 PM
Oh,
I just thought of a question, but I don't know Laura, if anyone has ever looked
into it!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:03 PM
Jack
was a control freak with his scripts, he jumped on anyone who missed a beat or
line, I admire that he was such an involved director as performer
Graeme
Cree·6:03 PM
Which
was the year when the guest star talked too long and he didn't get a chance to
say goodbye to the audience for the summer?
Laura
Leff·6:03 PM
Kay
- Go for it, Kay!
Giselle
once told me a story about him berating her for being "a TENTH of a second
off!"
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:04 PM
great
story, Laura!
Katharine
Lhota·6:04 PM
My
Dad was in the Army and in CZ in 1945. I know that Jack Benny played there but I
don't have the date. I know that when Bob Hope played in CZ, my Dad played piano
for him
Laura
Leff·6:04 PM
Graeme
- I'd have to look it up.
Linda
Cree·6:04 PM
"You
used to be the cream in my coffee, but now you're just grounds for
divorce." (The Bob Hope Show with Jack.)
Graeme
Cree·6:05 PM
Flatfoot
is driving...
Brad
from Georgia·6:05 PM
I
remember Jimmy Stewart's drawling wind-up to "Bend in the River" sort
of fading out as they ran out of time.
Laura
Leff·6:05 PM
I
just don't groove much on the Bob Hope Shows...
Graeme
Cree·6:05 PM
They're
not that good.
Laura
Leff·6:05 PM
Hope's
stuff ages about like Milton Berle's.
Brad
from Georgia·6:05 PM
"Put
the Saddle on the Stove, Ma, I'm Ridin' the Range Tonight." One of Phil's
titles for filler music.
Graeme
Cree·6:05 PM
Bob
is good, his cast is so-so. And honestly, Bob's jokes are
AWFUL. His delivery makes them sound funny.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:06 PM
Graeme,
your updates make me laugh, thinking about Benny's parody of football movies,
and how much Jack liked to attend USC and Rosebowl games
Laura
Leff·6:06 PM
Oh
wait...maybe there's a reason for that...
His
delivery makes them sound like HE thinks they're funny.
Graeme
Cree·6:06 PM
"Right
now, there are so many television antennas in Los Angeles that the smog is
coming in shredded." That's a Bob Hope style joke.
Brad
from Georgia·6:06 PM
I
can't listen to Bob Hope radio shows, and I can't listen even more to Berle's. I
wince at Bob's, but cringe at Berle's.
Laura
Leff·6:07 PM
Was
watching the color Berle TV special once, and...sigh...I'd rather not talk about
it...
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:07 PM
gosh
I am not a Hope fan, and I put my foot in my mouth by telling a PBS producer
that I didn't much like Richard Zoglin's recent Hope biography either. GUESS WHO
I had to work with on a spec script of a Bob Hope bio for American Masters on
PBS? doh!!!!
Graeme
Cree·6:07 PM
It
was funny hearing Jack try to imitate Bob and pick up his tempo. He
couldn't do it as fast as Bob, but a lot faster than he usually did.
Field
Goal Flatfoot.
Laura
Leff·6:07 PM
Kathy
- Oh man, yikes.
Brad
from Georgia·6:08 PM
I
will admit that when I was a wee little nipper I liked Arnold Stang as one of
Berle's supporting actors.
Laura
Leff·6:08 PM
But
Dennis Day did a KILLER Jerry Colonna!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:08 PM
if
I can possibly do a stupid thing, you can count on me...
Katharine
Lhota·6:08 PM
He
sure did!
Laura
Leff·6:08 PM
Oh,
if you don't love Arnold Stang, then there's something wrong with you.
Brad
from Georgia·6:08 PM
And
Don Wilson and Dennis did a very passable Laurel and Hardy.
Graeme
Cree·6:08 PM
They
said people thought it was the real Colonna. It was good, but it
was CLEARLY Dennis.
Now
his Titus Moody is harder to tell from the real thing.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:08 PM
Dennis
is not credited enough as a GREAT mimic
Katharine
Lhota·6:09 PM
It
was funny when Mary Livingston got as far in the song "I couldn't sleep a
wink last night--"
Laura
Leff·6:09 PM
Brad
- Yes, they did!
Graeme
- I heard that story as well...I think it was said that Colonna's own family
thought it was him!
Brad
from Georgia·6:09 PM
Dennis
did a spot-on Ronald Colman, too.
Katharine
Lhota·6:09 PM
what
a talent
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:09 PM
and
not a bad Winston Churchill, hahaha
Graeme
Cree·6:10 PM
His
Colman wasn't as good as his Colonna or his Moody.
Laura
Leff·6:10 PM
I
think that was Frankie Fontaine doing Churchill
Graeme
Cree·6:10 PM
I
could tell who he was trying to do, but I'd never mistake it for the real thing.
Now,
I liked Jack's Fred better than Peter Lind Hayes'.
Brad
from Georgia·6:10 PM
Mel
Blanc: "Dah, you t'ought it was da door, but the folks in Canoog--Cano--Canoga
know it was me!" Jack. "Not with THAT reading, they don't."
Laura
Leff·6:10 PM
Oh,
absolutely.
Katharine
Lhota·6:10 PM
I
love Dennis as Hitler and Hirohito arguing over baseball in the new years play
for 1944
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:11 PM
Jack
did a GREAT Fred Allen, and Jack did few other imitations
Laura
Leff·6:11 PM
I
never thought Hayes was that great.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:11 PM
although
Jack
Graeme
Cree·6:11 PM
I
liked the commercial where Don did six different accents.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:11 PM
excuse
me, although Jack
Laura
Leff·6:11 PM
Now
Dick Cavett does a phenomenal Fred Allen...
Brad
from Georgia·6:11 PM
I
always wondered if Jack really did a sight gag-clothespin on his nose--when he
imitated Allen.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:11 PM
grrrr
jack doing charlie chan makes me laugh
Graeme
Cree·6:11 PM
And
threw in a 7th for free (You like velly much?)
Linda
Cree·6:12 PM
I
love Jack's Fred Allen skits.
Laura
Leff·6:12 PM
There's
a wonderful middle commercial on the Jack in Paris episode with Don playing his
own French cousin.
Brad
- I think he did, based on the audience reaction.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:12 PM
I
also love Jack as Mr Twink, what is Twink's first name
Laura
Leff·6:12 PM
Kathy
- Have you seen the Jack Webb episode?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:12 PM
no
I have NOT, Laura, I had better get busy!
Laura
Leff·6:12 PM
Twink
was his first name...ie was his last.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:13 PM
its
Syvester...maybe Throckmorton?
Brad
from Georgia·6:13 PM
I
just today saw an old Dick Cavett show with Mel Brooks--he was promoting
"The Twelve Chairs" (a remake of a Fred Allen movie, natch)--and when
Cavett made a joke that fell sort of flat, Brooks turned to the audience and
said, "SING, Dennis." Got a nice laugh.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:13 PM
in
the two Jello commercials where Mary is his wife, working in an airplane
factory, and beating him up
Katharine
Lhota·6:13 PM
LOL
Brad
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:14 PM
great,
Brad!
Linda
Cree·6:14 PM
Any
chance all of the TV eps will come to DVD?
Laura
Leff·6:14 PM
Linda
- Not in the near future, but I'm talking with UCLA about what can be done.
Stay
tuned.
Linda
Cree·6:15 PM
Great!
Katharine
Lhota·6:15 PM
great,
Laura! Long to see more!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:15 PM
hooray
for more TV episodes!
Laura
Leff·6:15 PM
Workin
on it!
Brad
from Georgia·6:15 PM
Later
Brooks did a pretty good Frank Sinatra singing "America the
Beautiful." Oh, beautiful for spacious skies, for crazy, swingin' amber
waves of grain....
Katharine
Lhota·6:15 PM
LOL
Brad
Laura
Leff·6:15 PM
If
there's one thing I've learned in 36 years of running the club,
it's............patience.
Linda
Cree·6:15 PM
I'd
spend a little more even if I had to get them as a special order.
Laura
Leff·6:16 PM
Money
talks, but we don't have tons of it. So I just try to annoy the
crud out of people over time until they give in.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:16 PM
Thanks
Laura, for fielding the phd student's questions, btw, Nora is super-fabulous
Laura
Leff·6:16 PM
Kathy
- Absolutely. I need to get back to her.
Brad
from Georgia·6:16 PM
You
know, I think I'd appreciate some of the shows more now that I've been listening
to Sirius radio. I'd heard OF "The Whistler,"
but never had heard an episode until lately.
So
I'd get more of the parodies now, I think.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:17 PM
yeah,
Brad, the more we can talk about links between the radio shows and TV
shows/scripts, the more I love it!!!!
Laura
Leff·6:17 PM
I
tried to find "Champagne for Caesar," but it doesn't seem to be in
distribution.
Linda
Cree·6:17 PM
One
of the other radio shows I really like is The Halls of Ivy. Love
the Colmans.
Katharine
Lhota·6:17 PM
I
was playing and episode of The Whistler a few years ago when my son Daniel came
home from school and hiewe
Graeme
Cree·6:18 PM
Just
like a real school.
Katharine
Lhota·6:18 PM
and
he heard it and realized that it was a real show
Graeme
Cree·6:18 PM
More
or less.
Laura
Leff·6:18 PM
Too
bad there don't seem to be more of them in circulation.
Brad
from Georgia·6:18 PM
My
God, Sirius reveals that Joseph Kearns used to be more ubiquitous than Hans
Conried.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:18 PM
I
love The Halls of Ivy!!!
Katharine
Lhota·6:18 PM
LOL
Brad
Brad
from Georgia·6:18 PM
I
remember the TV version, too.
Of
"Halls," I mean.
Laura
Leff·6:18 PM
Brad
- Ubiquitous or inevitable?
Katharine
Lhota·6:19 PM
LOL
Laura
Brad
from Georgia·6:19 PM
Ubiquitevitable.
Laura
Leff·6:19 PM
I
bet that's painful.
Katharine
Lhota·6:19 PM
Hans
Conried was all of that!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:19 PM
do
any of you all have favorite NEW podcasts or radio shows?
Laura
Leff·6:20 PM
Who
has time to listen to new stuff?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:20 PM
I
have not been into podcasts, but my grad students are pushing me to leap in
Brad
from Georgia·6:20 PM
On
my hour and a half commute from home to school and back last week, I heard
Kearns in parts of four radio episodes, playing a cop, a Western codger, a man
accused of murder, and Jack's guard in his vault.
Laura
Leff·6:20 PM
I
keep being told that I need to see "Boardwalk Empire."
Yes,
those supporting actors got plenty of work. Bea Benadaret, Elliott
Lewis, etc.
Katharine
Lhota·6:21 PM
Lou
Merrill
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:21 PM
Brad,
that is GREAT! so few historians note the whole sound-scape available to radio
listeners, back in the day
Katharine
Lhota·6:21 PM
Frank
Nelson
Graeme
Cree·6:22 PM
One
show I found a disappointment was Candid Microphone. I even
listened to their first highlight show.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:22 PM
hey
Graeme, how go Meatball vs Flatfoot? I just turned on the TV and saw nothing but
goats
Katharine
Lhota·6:23 PM
LOl
Kathy
Laura
Leff·6:23 PM
So
we're nearly at the hour and a half mark...want to keep going, or call it good?
Katharine
Lhota·6:23 PM
that
and close harmony
Brad
from Georgia·6:23 PM
It
was funny on a radio "Gunsmoke" to hear William Conrad as Matt Dillon
say to Parley Baer as Chester Proudfoot, "Chester, you're limping!"
"Caught my heel on somethin'. I'll be all right in a minute."
"Good. I couldn't use a man with a limp."
Graeme
Cree·6:23 PM
The
conversations are dull, rambling and ordinary. They needed a visual
gag to play on people.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:23 PM
pardon
me, sheep and their new Honda truck
Brad
from Georgia·6:23 PM
That
us or the game, Graeme?
Graeme
Cree·6:23 PM
No,
Candid Microphone.
Laura
Leff·6:24 PM
I
guess Candid Microphone found its life in the various "Wind Ups" and
crank calls that have been done since then.
Graeme
Cree·6:24 PM
Don't
think it would have survived if TV hadn't come along.
Laura
Leff·6:24 PM
It's
a wonder Mel Blanc's Fix It Shop wasn't better.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:24 PM
its
GREAT this this group could have fun, while watching the Big Game on other
screens. Oh that all our lives could go this wah
way
Graeme
Cree·6:24 PM
But
speaking of that, I heard a story once about Alan Funt being on a plane that was
hijacked, and nobody believed it because he was there.
Brad
from Georgia·6:24 PM
"Smile,
you're on Candid Cam'ra!"
Laura
Leff·6:25 PM
Graeme
- Oh, that sounds like an urban legend, doesn't it?
Graeme
Cree·6:25 PM
Let
me check Wiki. It might be there...
Laura
Leff·6:25 PM
Everything
on Wiki is true...
Brad
from Georgia·6:25 PM
MAD
Magazine did a bit in which it turned out that Arthur Godfrey's entire career
had been a Candid Camera stunt. He wasn't a star at all. "You mean-heh-heh-I'm
actually a nobody?"
Laura
Leff·6:25 PM
(wonder
if I have to correct again that Mary is NOT related to the Marx Bros...)
Graeme
Cree·6:25 PM
Yeah.
On
February 3, 1969, Funt, his then wife, and his two youngest children boarded
Eastern Airlines Flight 7 in Newark with a destination of Miami. The plane never
made it to Miami because two men hijacked the airplane and demanded passage to
Cuba—but some of the passengers, having spotted Funt, took the whole thing to
be a Candid Camera stunt.[3] Funt repeatedly attempted to persuade his fellow
passengers as to the reality of the hijacking, but to no avail. The plane later
landed in Cuba, finally convincing the passengers.[1]
Frankly,
that would NOT convince me.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:26 PM
hey
Brad, I will get in touch with you about free access to teh SCMS conference at
the Hilton in downtown ATL March 30-April 4 if you like!
Laura
Leff·6:26 PM
I
was in Cuba last December. It's great!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:26 PM
your
photos from Cuba were amazing
Brad
from Georgia·6:26 PM
Many
thanks, Kathy. I look forward to seeing you. Want anything from Stone Mountain?
Something from the German deli?
Laura
Leff·6:26 PM
Thanks,
Kathy.
Graeme
- Interesting. I'll have to look at the reference.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:27 PM
omg
Brad, I used to live 1/2 mile from there, and miss my farmhouse by the rr tracks
very much!
Katharine
Lhota·6:27 PM
there
was a flurry in 1969 of cuba hijackings
Graeme
Cree·6:27 PM
I'd
want to take a good look at Fidel first, and make sure it wasn't Peter Falk in a
beard or something, before I'd be convinced.
Katharine
Lhota·6:27 PM
that
is why airport security got beefed up
Brad
from Georgia·6:28 PM
I
know--you told me you didn't miss the constant nocturnal gunfire, though. It's
still an iffy neighborhood at night.
Laura
Leff·6:28 PM
OK,
so it sounds like we'll call it good for this month? I don't want
to shut down the conversation if you want to keep going!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:28 PM
Brad,
you are right. Wonderful folks bought the house, they run a pet store in town
and dog adoption shelter, and have invested $$$ in the house, so I am very
happy!
Graeme
Cree·6:28 PM
We
can keep going. There's a game and laundry going.
Katharine
Lhota·6:29 PM
LOL
graeme
Brad
from Georgia·6:29 PM
Fidel:
"Oh, the Americanos are not so bad. They named a district in San Francisco
after me." (Aide whispers in his ear) "Eet's full of WHAT?"
(courtesy of The Simpsons)
Laura
Leff·6:29 PM
Har
har
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:29 PM
Brad,
in Austin, Kenny and I have found a cool house on 2.5 acres to replicate the
best of our Stone Mountain compound : )
Laura
Leff·6:29 PM
They
still love Fidel down there.
Graeme
Cree·6:29 PM
They
have no choice.
Brad
from Georgia·6:30 PM
Kathy--I
think I know the pet store, and I believe possibly one of the people associated
with the adoption facility helped us at our house closing here. Small world!
Katharine
Lhota·6:30 PM
3rd
quarter ends
Laura
Leff·6:30 PM
Nah,
you get a very different perspective once you've been there. I even
said that we were darned lucky that no one ever got him out of office sooner.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:30 PM
Laura,
I am so interested in the the rare items you are archiving in boxes and such,
thanks for sharing
Graeme
Cree·6:30 PM
Flatfoot
is still holding the lead.
Laura
Leff·6:30 PM
Kathy
- Oh by all means! I'm delighted to be able to share them.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:30 PM
Brad,
HOORAY for the small world of good people : )
Laura
Leff·6:31 PM
And
also delighted to finally be getting them in order!
Brad
from Georgia·6:31 PM
Amen.
Though we did tell the lady we could not use any more dogs just at present.
Laura
Leff·6:31 PM
So
many thick envelopes chock full of clippings that I've had sitting around for
years.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:32 PM
Brad,
they have a big yard for other dogs, haha PLEASE if you see them
again, send greetings from me!
Laura
Leff·6:32 PM
Now
I can effectively FIND stuff and better know what I have.
Linda
Cree·6:32 PM
I
know you're really busy Laura, but when you have a chance, please post your
Benny table again.
Laura
Leff·6:32 PM
Linda
- Thanks for the reminder on that. I will!
Brad
from Georgia·6:32 PM
Ah,
well....think I'll try for some sleep. I have to go to the bank tomorrow to take
care of some Atlanta Radio Theatre business. G/night, all. Sure will, Kathy. If
it's the same folks, they work in a law office on North Street in Snellville.
Linda
Cree·6:32 PM
Thanks!
Katharine
Lhota·6:32 PM
goodnight
Brad
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:32 PM
Laura,
and how to sort as well as archive them? At Wyoming, the articles fly off the
scrapbook pages and are lost to chaos
Laura
Leff·6:32 PM
OK,
anything else Benny-wise on everyone's mind? If not, you're free to
stay and chat.
Brad
from Georgia left the room (user disconnected)
Laura
Leff·6:33 PM
Kathy
- OMG, I was even responsible for some of that flying.
Graeme
Cree·6:33 PM
What
credits did Dennis and Kenny have before Benny?
Steve
Archer left the room (user disconnected)
Graeme
Cree·6:33 PM
We
know Phil and Don were fairly accomplished.
Laura
Leff·6:33 PM
Tried
to turn a scrapbook page and heard all these tiny clippings errrraccck off the
page. I closed it and said, "I'll worry about that
later."
Graeme
Cree·6:33 PM
For
that matter, did Eddie do any radio before Jack?
Laura
Leff·6:33 PM
Dennis
didn't have much. He was on one program prior as part of a talent
show.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:33 PM
Laura,
no I thought that was normal, and now that I have some travel money, I might go
back to Laramie to help them preserve stuff
Laura
Leff·6:34 PM
Kathy
- That would be great. There's so much still to be discovered
there.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:34 PM
Laura,
my experience exactly!!! And nobody there cared!
Katharine
Lhota·6:34 PM
I
saw Rochester in a movie on TCM a week ago. "YOu Can't Get Away With
Murder"
Graeme
Cree·6:34 PM
And
did the Butler do it?
Laura
Leff·6:34 PM
Kathy
- Well, I think they have to prioritize it. I actually appreciate
their attitude more than UCLA's.
Eddie
Anderson was in vaudeville with his family.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:35 PM
Graeme,
I have not found other examples of Eddie's early radio work, Benny was one of
the first on the west coast, What I would like to find is more later guest
appearances
Katharine
Lhota·6:35 PM
he
wasn't creditied on screen, but he had a nice small role
Linda
Cree·6:35 PM
We
just watched Tales of Manhattan. Rochester had a small part in it.
Graeme
Cree·6:35 PM
Yeah,
the last tale of Manhattan seemed to take place in Bugtussle, TN.
Laura
Leff·6:35 PM
And
don't forget "Green Pastures."
Katharine
Lhota·6:35 PM
Tales
of Manhattan is a strange movie.
Graeme
Cree·6:36 PM
Flatfoot
fumble, Meatball recovers at midfield.
Laura
Leff·6:36 PM
"Green
Pastures" is interesting if you can find it.
Graeme
Cree·6:37 PM
Mel
Blanc tacked Peyton Manning, looking for a tip.
tackled
Katharine
Lhota·6:37 PM
LOL
Laura
Leff·6:37 PM
OK...I'm
going to sign off and capture the transcript from here. I'll keep
the same episode on for next month since we didn't talk much about it (which is
OK by me).
Any
parting thoughts for the transcript?
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:38 PM
Graeme,
you will laugh at my horror, a reviewer of my book mss insisted that I read a
new book on female Hollywood stars on TV in the 50s and 60s....and on the first
page its talking about Gloria Swanson on the Beverly Hillibiilies, and claims
that the Clampetts' home town was "Hugbussle". HUGBUSSLE???
How can I trust anything this author says?
Katharine
Lhota·6:38 PM
I
will say goodbye then and catch you all later!
Katharine
Lhota left the room (user disconnected)
Graeme
Cree·6:38 PM
Bonnakrazinskavigilakowsky!!
B!
O!
N!
N!
A!
K!
R!
A!
Z!
I!
N!
S!
Laura
Leff·6:38 PM
Kathy
- Oh man...reminds me of that OTHER article on Benny we've discussed...
Graeme
Cree·6:38 PM
K!
A!
V!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:38 PM
only
that your work in radio history is always AMAZING, Laura
Graeme
Cree·6:38 PM
I!
G!
I!
L!
A!
K!
O!
W!
S!
K!
Y!!
He
should probably shorten that to Bonelli.
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:39 PM
hey
Graeme and Linda, hope to see you all soon!!!
Laura
Leff·6:39 PM
Kathy
- Thanks so much. I really appreciate that praise from someone who
knows how challenging it can be!
Take
care, folks!
Go
Huxley!
Linda
Cree·6:39 PM
Take
care!
Kathy
Fuller-Seeley·6:39 PM
g'night