IJBFC Chat - June 7, 2015
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Joe Garner
4:51 PM
@JoeGarner
First time
here. How does HipChat work?
Brad from Georgia
4:54 PM
Hi, Joe, Maria! Basically,
just as you see--our comments show up, and we type responses to others. It can
be chaotic.
I checked in way early
because I was thinking we started at five Eastern time...
Joe Garner
4:55 PM
Thanks.
Brad from Georgia
4:55 PM
'Course I didn't stay all
that time. You're welcome, Joe.
There will often be a lag
when several people are on at once, and it's easy to "talk across"
each other, with two or three conversations going on at once. You'll get the
hang of it quickly, though.
Brad from Georgia
4:58 PM
Hi, Phil!
Laura Leff
4:59 PM
Hi folks!
Brad from Georgia
4:59 PM
Hello to Kathy, Maria
again, and Steve. Hiya, Boss!
Steve Archer
4:59 PM
Hi All
Laura Leff
5:00 PM
Maria! Welcome!!!!
Phil Wala
5:00 PM
Hi. Phil from
Minnesota joining for only the second time ever.
Brad from Georgia
5:00 PM
Glad
you're here again!
Steve Archer
5:00 PM
Hiya Philsie
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:00 PM
howdy, hope everyone is
doing well on June 7th
Laura Leff
5:00 PM
A date which will live in
infamy...
Hey folks, does Maria's
name ring a bell for you?
Brad from Georgia
5:01 PM
Yes, we commemorated the
Normandy landings by finishing the tile on our patio and assembling a patio
table and chair set.
Oh, sure. I know who Maria
is!
Laura Leff
5:01 PM
Hi Hookie!
Brad from Georgia
5:01 PM
Hookie!
R. Hookie
5:01 PM
Jello again, folks
Steve Archer
5:01 PM
Sure, glad to finally make
a chat where Maria is here!
Laura Leff
5:02 PM
Indeed!
R. Hookie
5:02 PM
Hi Maria!
Maria Rudolph
5:02 PM
Michael is trying to log
in, but he's the stupidest smart person I've ever met.
Laura Leff
5:02 PM
LOL
Maria Rudolph
5:02 PM
Hi everyone.
Laura Leff
5:02 PM
I've known graph theorists
who can't boil water.
Brad from Georgia
5:02 PM
So nice you joined us
again! Thanks!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:02 PM
hello Maria, glad you can
join us today/tonight
Joe Garner
5:02 PM
Hello everyone
Laura Leff
5:02 PM
Hello Joe, whaddya know?
R. Hookie
5:02 PM
Hi Joe
Michael Rudolph joined the
room
Brad from Georgia
5:03 PM
Well, I've known
professional water boilers who couldn't draw a graph. Or a comfortable bath, for
that
matter.
Laura Leff
5:03 PM
Hey hey!
Steve Archer
5:03 PM
Hey Maria, saw your Mom up
here in Seattle last month and she was very proud of the new family foundation
and its work with the music scholarships. So cool!
Brad from Georgia
5:03 PM
Hi, Michael!
Maria Rudolph
5:03 PM
I even listened to the
show. I'm embarrassed to say that may be the first one that I've
listened to all the way through.
R. Hookie
5:03 PM
Hi Michael
Maria Rudolph
5:03 PM
Not bad.
Laura Leff
5:03 PM
Two Benny grandchildren in
the room! This is a first!
Maria Rudolph
5:03 PM
Steve, yes, Mom is very
proud of the foundation.
Laura Leff
5:03 PM
Maria - Hope you enjoyed
it!
Brad from Georgia
5:03 PM
Ah, the infamous show with
Bing Crosby's "Who the hell picked this key, Dennis Day?" A big no-no
in its time.
Michael Rudolph
5:04 PM
Hello everyone
Maria Rudolph
5:04 PM
Yeah, that really surprised
me. I hadn't realized how much improvising went on.
Hi Michael.
Don't go back and read my
earlier comment about how you're the stupidest smart person I know.
Michael Rudolph
5:04 PM
too late
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:04 PM
well he is in good company!
Brad from Georgia
5:04 PM
"You don't ad-lib with
Jack Benny."--Frank Nelson (who memorably did, though)
Steve Archer
5:04 PM
It seemed like the show
started out loosey-goosey with the Jack/Mary teasing so you kind of felt
something was going to happen...
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:05 PM
and singers are some of the
most likely people to improvise
Brad from Georgia
5:05 PM
Jack seemed to be needling
Mary about line readings: Oh, good, you got it out. I worry about those long
ones....
R. Hookie
5:05 PM
That schilling sure made
it's way around
Laura Leff
5:06 PM
Schilling is the spice of
life...
Brad from Georgia
5:06 PM
I wonder if that was the
Owl drugstore on Cahuenga.
Laura Leff
5:06 PM
That would have been pretty
near NBC studios, I think...makes sense.
Brad from Georgia
5:06 PM
First time I was in LA I
thought that was called "cah-wa-NAY-ga"
Steve Archer
5:07 PM
There was a "dollface"
there too
Laura Leff
5:07 PM
Well, an official welcome
to Michael and Maria, two of Jack Benny's grandchildren!
Brad from Georgia
5:07 PM
In the thirties and
forties, I think that was "the largest drugstore in the world"
according to the ads. Michael, Maria, we're honored!
Laura Leff
5:07 PM
Yes, this show felt like
quite a throwback to the 30s shows
In both form and the ad
libbing.
Maria Rudolph
5:07 PM
LL: could you please
explain to Michael what everyone is talking about?
Laura Leff
5:08 PM
Ah sorry!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:08 PM
Jack's show was one of the
most prominent places to teach Easterners about California, I have a 1936
article that says his radio show was the biggest attraction in Hollywood
Laura Leff
5:08 PM
Michael - I posted a show
for discussion tonight, and people are talking about it.
Brad from Georgia
5:08 PM
It's the March 16, 1947
Jack Benny show.
5:08 PM
Steve Archer left the room
(user disconnected)
Laura Leff
5:08 PM
There ya go.
R. Hookie
5:08 PM
LS/MFT
Laura Leff
5:08 PM
Hey, anyone have questions
for Michael or Maria?
They've got firsthand
experience, ya know.
Michael Rudolph
5:09 PM
so sorry, I will watch it
during the next break for station identification
Maria Rudolph
5:09 PM
I just told Michael that I
was joining the chat while he was driving home from work so he didn't have time
to listen to it. However, of all of us grandchildren, Michael knew
Granddad best.
Laura Leff
5:09 PM
Actually here's one...I
would imagine both of you know the photo of your grandfather giving you money,
right?
Brad from Georgia
5:09 PM
It features Bing Crosby ,
Andy Russell, and Dick Haymes as guests. With Dennis Day, they make up Jack's
"new" quartet, taking over from the Sportsmen.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:09 PM
what's the most absurd
question Michael and Maria have been asked when someone finds out who their
grandpa is
5:09 PM
Steve Archer joined the
room
Laura Leff
5:09 PM
Kathy - Oh excellent.
Maria Rudolph
5:09 PM
This may not be the most
absurd one, but it's the most frequent: Was he funny in real life?
LL: With the bunny ears?
Laura Leff
5:10 PM
Do they get up in your face
doing bad impersonations of him the way they do with me?
Maria Rudolph
5:10 PM
Not so much
anymore. Thank goodness!
Michael Rudolph
5:10 PM
or was he really that
cheap?
Laura Leff
5:10 PM
Maria - I don't think
so...he has his wallet out and you're both holding out your hands palm up to
take the money.
Brad from Georgia
5:10 PM
...and run?
Laura Leff
5:11 PM
I'm just curious if either
of you remember that photo being taken.
Maria Rudolph
5:11 PM
Oh yeah. I
remember that one. I don't have a copy of it
though. Michael, do you have it?
I think it was one Easter.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:11 PM
I hope you are getting
responses saying "wow, he was the greatest comedian of the 20th
century"
Laura Leff
5:11 PM
I think it's in the Marcia
Borie book.
Michael Rudolph
5:11 PM
i remember that picture, I
have a copy of it but only remember that it was posed
Maria Rudolph
5:12 PM
I'm remembering Easter and
a magic club. Did I totally make that up?
Michael Rudolph
5:12 PM
i wish we were getting
responses like that, instead of who was Jack Benny?
Laura Leff
5:12 PM
Definitely.
There were tons of publicity photos with your
mother. How much were either of you called in for that sort of
publicity/press coverage?
Maria Rudolph
5:12 PM
Kathy: Nope.
I can't remember ever being
called in.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:12 PM
well, here is hoping that
this will change!
Michael Rudolph
5:12 PM
we had to do a round of
publicity photos once a year. Maria hated them!
Steve Archer
5:12 PM
LOL
Laura Leff
5:13 PM
*grinning in Maria's
direction*
R. Hookie
5:13 PM
Were the shoots that bad?
Michael Rudolph
5:13 PM
well Maria?
Laura Leff
5:13 PM
LOL
R. Hookie
5:14 PM
... --- ...
Laura Leff
5:14 PM
Do you remember if it was
in conjunction with any particular event?
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:14 PM
Your mom's autograph goes
for some $$ on ebay, I guess celebrity follows you all, like it or not
Michael Rudolph
5:14 PM
she was never one for
putting on pretty dresses and having to keep them clean
Laura Leff
5:14 PM
Hey, maybe you should start
signing cards and selling them on Ebay.
Maria Rudolph
5:14 PM
Obviously, I found them so
traumatic that I have blocked them out.
Steve Archer
5:14 PM
Michael, Maria - you
probably get more questions about Jack, but do you have any strong memories of
Mary?
Laura Leff
5:14 PM
Hey, did Mary's horsehair
dress sell?
Maria - PTSD. It's
natural.
Maria Rudolph
5:15 PM
Stronger memories of Miss
Mary (as we called her) than Granddad. She lived for another 8
years after he died.
Michael Rudolph
5:15 PM
boy I could put a lot of
unintended meaning in that question
Laura Leff
5:15 PM
Oh, it may not be so
unintended.
Michael Rudolph
5:15 PM
I have stronger memories of
grandad
Laura Leff
5:15 PM
You've got a very
knowledgeable group here.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:16 PM
Did Mary go out at all to
meet friends, or was she rather house-boound?
Brad from Georgia
5:16 PM
Did Mary really hate Jack's
practicing the violin?
Michael Rudolph
5:16 PM
yes, she
did, I loved to sit in his dressing room and listen to him play the
scales
Miss Mary was very
house-bound unless it was to visit whats-her-face who lived in
Barbados? Famous oscar winning actress....
Maria Rudolph
5:17 PM
I always associate his
practicing with eating corn flakes in bed.
Merle Oberon.
Laura Leff
5:18 PM
Barbara Stanwyck?
Michael Rudolph
5:18 PM
correct
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:18 PM
Ah ha, Claudette Colbert
Laura Leff
5:18 PM
Which was correct?
Gregory D. Smith joined the
room
Michael Rudolph
5:18 PM
CLaudette Colbert it was
Laura Leff
5:18 PM
Hi Gregory!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:18 PM
I always image that Mary
wanted to be Claudette
Laura Leff
5:18 PM
Aha!
R. Hookie
5:18 PM
Hi Gregory
Laura Leff
5:18 PM
I think Mary wanted to be a
lot of people.
Maria Rudolph
5:18 PM
I remember Mom talking
about her once and totally dissing her for having had so many face lifts.
Michael Rudolph
5:18 PM
she went there at least
once a year
Brad from Georgia
5:19 PM
Hmm...I'm learning to play
the ukulele, but I still couldn't do it while eating cornflakes in bed.
Steve Archer
5:19 PM
Interesting, your mom's
book (and others) have certainly commented on some of Mary's issues, but she
still, IMHO had a lot of talent and deserves her own little place in history as
a really good comedienne.
Gregory D. Smith
5:19 PM
Hi Laura!!
Maria Rudolph
5:19 PM
Actually, she wanted to be
Babe Paley more than anyone else.
Gregory D. Smith
5:19 PM
first time here!!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:19 PM
Hollywood is a cruel place
for older women (over 25)
Gregory D. Smith
5:19 PM
Hi everyone!!
Brad from Georgia
5:19 PM
Hi, Gregory!
Laura Leff
5:19 PM
Welcome
in! You've hit it on a great night!
Michael Rudolph
5:19 PM
yes, she was in fact very
good, she had great timing also
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:19 PM
WOW, great Babe Paley
connection!!!!
Laura Leff
5:19 PM
Maria - Ah yes, that's
right!
Steve Archer
5:19 PM
Hiya Gregory
Gregory D. Smith
5:19 PM
Great!!!
Maria Rudolph
5:19 PM
Sorry -- he didn't eat corn
flakes at the same time. He would eat them in bed (very sloppily
and slurpily) and then go into his bathroom to practice.
Gregory D. Smith
5:19 PM
Hi!!!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:20 PM
Jack said many times that
Mary had a good eye for production and administration. If she were around today,
maybe that would be her forte
Brad from Georgia
5:20 PM
Maria--that's a relief to
me. My dog will be disappointed though. He likes to have a big bowl of milk and
cereal when he can steal one.
Laura Leff
5:20 PM
Corn flakes...not Grape
Nuts Flakes. (Radio sponsor)
R. Hookie
5:20 PM
I'm guessing Kelloggs
Michael Rudolph
5:20 PM
that is very true,i had
forgotten how sloppy he was with his cereal in bed
Maria Rudolph
5:20 PM
Remember that, Michael?
Laura Leff
5:21 PM
When you've got a maid to
launder the sheets, what the heck!
Michael Rudolph
5:21 PM
I don't remember the exact
cereal
Gregory D. Smith
5:21 PM
I've been a Jack Benny fan
for over 15 years...
Michael Rudolph
5:21 PM
maid? more
like maids!
R. Hookie
5:21 PM
So, you're 16?
Maria Rudolph
5:21 PM
Her name was Maria and she
was the upstairs maid. She didn't launder the sheets -- she ironed
them on the bed!
Gregory D. Smith
5:21 PM
i first discovered him
during my days in theNavy..
Laura Leff
5:21 PM
Mary maids.
Steve Archer
5:21 PM
That is a really funny
image that almost seems like it could be on the show. Rochester
complaining about Jack eating cornflakes in bed.
Brad from Georgia
5:21 PM
I serve my wife breakfast
in bed sometimes--never vice-versa. Probably just as well. I tend to spill
things, she doesn't. I may make her waffles tomorrow...our 46th. anniversary....
Gregory D. Smith
5:21 PM
No...LOL
I'm 38!!
Michael Rudolph
5:21 PM
come on, you don;t really
remember the name of the upstairs maid?
Maria Rudolph
5:22 PM
Of course I
do. Her name was Maria. Duh! Remember --
she was Polish and went to school at UCLA. Her mother was Zenobia.
Laura Leff
5:22 PM
When it's the same as
yours, it has a mnemonic!
Michael Rudolph
5:22 PM
All I remember
is the secretary, assistant - Miss Valance and the cook - Mrs. King
Brad from Georgia
5:22 PM
Lovely word, mnemonic. It
and syzygy are among my favorites.
R. Hookie
5:22 PM
Gregory, next year no one
will believe you when you tell them your age...
Laura Leff
5:22 PM
As opposed to Zenophobia...or
maybe those were people who were scared of her.
Gregory D. Smith
5:23 PM
In a few months..
Laura Leff
5:23 PM
Miss Julia Valance!
Brad from Georgia
5:23 PM
Zenophobia is spelled with
an X, though.
Maria Rudolph
5:23 PM
For those of you who don't
know this (and I would love to catch LL out on something), Michael and I would
spend the night at Granddad's and Miss Mary's house every Friday
night. Then we would go to George and Gracie's for tea parties on
Saturdays.
Laura Leff
5:23 PM
I was just going to ask if
you ever knew her.
Maria Rudolph
5:23 PM
Yes, Miss Julia
Valance. Miss V to us.
Laura Leff
5:23 PM
Brad - I know, but took a
liberty.
Gregory D. Smith
5:23 PM
Hey, R.Hookie where are you
from??
Maria Rudolph
5:23 PM
Michael, remember Mrs.
King's cookie jar?
Brad from Georgia
5:23 PM
That's okay. You deserve a
weekend pass, LL.
Phil Wala
5:24 PM
That was worth the price of
admission – the ultimate Jack Benny trivia question. What was the
name of Jack’s upstairs maid’s mother? Answer: Zenobia.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:24 PM
so what did you all think
of George and Gracie?
Steve Archer
5:24 PM
Wow, what are your memories
of the Burnses?
Laura Leff
5:24 PM
Maria - New
information! Thank you! Jealous...
R. Hookie
5:24 PM
Tea with George and
Gracie?!?!?
Maria Rudolph
5:24 PM
Phil:
no. Maria was the upstairs maid. Zenobia was
downstairs.
Yay!!!! I know one thing
that LL doesn't know!
Laura Leff
5:24 PM
ROFLMAO
R. Hookie
5:24 PM
In Sioux Falls, SD
Maria Rudolph
5:25 PM
Michael, are you still
here? Your memories of George and Gracie will be better than
mine. I was quite young when Gracie died.
Laura Leff
5:25 PM
5:25 PM
Gregory D. Smith left the
room (user disconnected)
5:25 PM
Gregory D. Smith joined the
room
Laura Leff
5:25 PM
I was wondering that...kind
of surprised that you even had memories of Gracies.
Gracie
Gregory D. Smith
5:25 PM
Wow nice...I'm from
Chicago, IL
Maria Rudolph
5:25 PM
I do remember more about
the Friday nights. Every Thursday, Miss V would call to see what
Michael and I wanted for dinner. Every single week, Michael would
ask for fried shrimp and I would ask for lamb chops. Every single
week. How spoiled were we that we always wanted different things
from each other. Poor Mrs. King.
Michael Rudolph
5:26 PM
sorry, I am a few sentences
behind, yes i do remember Mrs King's cookie jar expecially at
Christmas with her ginger bread cookies. those were still the best
cookies I have ever had
Gregory D. Smith
5:26 PM
just a short ride from
Jack's birthplace..
Maria Rudolph
5:26 PM
I'd forgotten about the
ginger bread cookies. No wonder I still love them so much.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:26 PM
how fun, did Jack raid the
cookie jar too?
Michael Rudolph
5:26 PM
i remember George
(especially from the country club) but have no memories of Gracie
Laura Leff
5:27 PM
Maria - She didn't put figs
in them, did she? (Inside joke)
Brad from Georgia
5:27 PM
Michael, we've heard that
George often made Jack laugh helplessly--do you remember any time when he did
that?
Michael Rudolph
5:27 PM
he did but he was not
supposed to, being diabetic and all
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:27 PM
wow Michael, did you get to
hang with the comedians at the country club?
Maria Rudolph
5:27 PM
Another tidbit from Friday
nights. Michael and I would sleep in Mom's old
suite. It had a huge bed and we would both sleep in
it. There was a small library in the bedside table on Michael's
side. He would ask me what I wanted to read. After I
answered, he would say that he was reading that book (even though he
wasn't). Totally obnoxious.
Sorry, LL, no figs.
Gregory D. Smith
5:28 PM
This is so great, Laura...
Michael Rudolph
5:28 PM
yes, there was the famous
round table. I got to sit with them on Sunday mornings because I
was a he and no females were allowed!!
Maria Rudolph
5:28 PM
I didn't know that you got
to do that!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:28 PM
wow, how fun, thank you all
for sharing these memories!
Laura Leff
5:28 PM
Gregory - I'm sure loving
it!
Maria - You played tennis
there, though...right?
Brad from Georgia
5:28 PM
Michael--did you meet
Groucho Marx at the club?
Michael Rudolph
5:29 PM
That is just Maria being
jealous of not being allowed into the inner sanctum of Hillcrest
Kevin Firth joined the room
Laura Leff
5:29 PM
Hi Kevin!
Brad from Georgia
5:29 PM
Hi, Kevin!
Michael Rudolph
5:29 PM
Hi
Kevin, Kevin is a friend of mine
Gregory D. Smith
5:29 PM
Hi, Kevin!!
Laura Leff
5:29 PM
I think Bruce Jenner is
dealing with a similar situation now as well...
Kevin Firth
5:29 PM
Hi!
Maria Rudolph
5:29 PM
Michael's
right. However, I did play tennis there and was club champion many
years.
Michael Rudolph
5:29 PM
Maria, say hi to Kevin
Brad from Georgia
5:29 PM
Any friend of Michael's is
a friend of ours.
Steve Archer
5:29 PM
George Burns wrote quite a
lot about those Hillcrest meetings of the comedians...
Kevin Firth
5:29 PM
Thanks!
Maria Rudolph
5:29 PM
Hi Kevin.
R. Hookie
5:29 PM
Hi Kevin
Michael Rudolph
5:30 PM
I was a good tennis player
also!
Laura Leff
5:30 PM
Kevin - Your name is
familiar to me. Have we met?
Steve Archer
5:30 PM
Hiya Kevin
Kevin Firth
5:30 PM
Hi Maria...
Maria Rudolph
5:30 PM
Anyone who believes that
Michael was a good tennis player, raise your hand.
Michael Rudolph
5:30 PM
see, everyone is raising
their hand
Laura Leff
5:30 PM
LOL
Maria Rudolph
5:30 PM
LOL too.
Michael Rudolph
5:30 PM
LOL three
that shut everyone up
Steve Archer
5:31 PM
Laura Leff
5:31 PM
My neighbors are going to
get annoyed at me for laughing loudly with the windows open.
Maria Rudolph
5:31 PM
Oh -- here's one really
bizarre thing that I hear all the time when I say something funny (which I do
fairly frequently): You inherited that from your
grandfather. Is that really a thing?
Brad from Georgia
5:31 PM
So tell them to close their
windows...
R. Hookie
5:31 PM
I really wasn't raising my
hand, I was scratching under my toupee....
Maria Rudolph
5:31 PM
LOL Hookie.
Laura Leff
5:31 PM
Miss Valance must have had
some years on her by the time you knew her.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:31 PM
take it as a compliment,
means you didn't bomb
Michael Rudolph
5:31 PM
considering that he was not
blood related, I don't think you did inherit
Brad from Georgia
5:32 PM
Maria--I don't know if it's
inherited so much as it just rubs off.
Maria Rudolph
5:32 PM
LL, yes Miss V was
ancient. But still very stern.
5:32 PM
Theodore Michael Konek
joined the room
Laura Leff
5:32 PM
Maria - Did she ever marry?
R. Hookie
5:32 PM
Hello Theodore
Michael Rudolph
5:32 PM
I remember her being very
nice to me
Maria Rudolph
5:32 PM
Clearly, it's not
inherited, but that is the other theory -- that I was surrounded by humor and
that's where I got it.
Michael Rudolph
5:33 PM
you got what?
Maria Rudolph
5:33 PM
She was very nice -- but
stern. I remember her making me wear slippers in the penthouse
suite in Las Vegas because of germs. I thought that was weird.
Laura Leff
5:33 PM
Well, but I think that he
was good when he worked on the material. He wasn't Al Gordon,
dropping one-liners all over the place.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:33 PM
I agree with that 110%
Steve Archer
5:33 PM
LOL
Maria Rudolph
5:33 PM
I got my insanely great
sense of humor.
Michael Rudolph
5:34 PM
no, you just got your
insanity
maybe we could be a comedy
team?
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:34 PM
so is your Mom funny too?
Brad from Georgia
5:34 PM
At my recent high-school
reunion, someone told me, "You were always the funniest guy at
school." I was flattered until I realized they didn't mean funny
humorous....
Kevin Firth
5:34 PM
same asyou...
Michael Rudolph
5:34 PM
no
R. Hookie
5:34 PM
That would be fun
Laura Leff
5:34 PM
There's got to be a pun
there somewhere...
Steve Archer
5:35 PM
I was just thinking there
might be a Jack Benny the Next Generation happening RIGHT HERE
Maria Rudolph
5:35 PM
Michael, only if you're the
straight man. haha -- that was pretty funny, huh?
Laura Leff
5:35 PM
Steve - Are you
volunteering?
matt joined the room
Michael Rudolph
5:35 PM
it took me a minute to get
that one - very funny indeed
Laura Leff
5:35 PM
Hi matt!
matt
5:35 PM
hi
Steve Archer
5:35 PM
I will be your Don Wilson.
Maria Rudolph
5:35 PM
No, Mom isn't funny, but
she seriously appreciates humor -- considers it essential.
Michael Rudolph
5:36 PM
Kevin, what were you trying
to say
Laura Leff
5:36 PM
See, everyone is slapping
their thigh.
Brad from Georgia
5:36 PM
Not me. I'm still working
on raising my hand.
Laura Leff
5:36 PM
Maria - Good answer.
Kevin Firth
5:37 PM
about your insanely great
sense of humor.
Michael Rudolph
5:37 PM
Maria is correct, I think
being surrounded by some of the funniest people on the planet growing up, had
made us realize that a sense of humor may be the most important personality
attribute to have
Laura Leff
5:37 PM
Tell us more about your
father, Buddy Rudolph (assuming you have no memories of Seth Baker)
Phil Wala
5:37 PM
More often than not, Jack
was the straight-man and gave his supporting cast the punch
lines. I’d hate to see a comedy team made up of two straight-men.
Laura Leff
5:38 PM
Michael -
Agreed. It's not necessarily rthat it comes directly from your
grandfather, but from the larger environment.
Maria Rudolph
5:38 PM
Actually, Buddy (my father
and Michael's adopted father) died when I was 9 and Michael was
11. Seth, on the other hand, just died a year or two ago, so my
memories of Seth are much stronger than of Dad.
Michael Rudolph
5:38 PM
exactly, it usually did not
come from my grandfather but by the people he surrounded himself with
matt
5:38 PM
did you know an of the
O'Malley who were actors and actress
Laura Leff
5:38 PM
You need someone to say
"Who's on First?" Not interesting with two people
standing around saying, "Yes."
Maria Rudolph
5:39 PM
Right. And
although I never saw George Burns crack Granddad up, he was the best and
funniest story teller I've ever had the pleasure to listen to.
Michael Rudolph
5:39 PM
no but my therapist is Mary
O'Malley
Laura Leff
5:39 PM
Oh indeed! I
didn't know you had contact with Seth, since they were married so briefly.
Brad from Georgia
5:39 PM
OTOH, LL, you don't think
"Sy? Si" is funny, either.
matt
5:39 PM
my distant family member
were in show business
Michael Rudolph
5:39 PM
I think Freddy DeCordiva
(sp) was the funniest
Laura Leff
5:40 PM
Brad - Yeah...it doesn't
ring my chimes.
Freddy deCordova! I
still miss him a lot.
Maria Rudolph
5:40 PM
Yes, Freddie was insanely
funny too.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:40 PM
I am curious, how would you
LIKE to see Jack and Mary talked about/remembered?
Maria Rudolph
5:41 PM
Kathy, that's a good
question. As far as Granddad is concerned, I would just like to see
him remembered. Period. That was his greatest fear --
being forgotten.
As for Miss Mary, I always
feel bad when I watch the TV specials about Granddad where their friends are
interviewed and everyone, except Freddy, totally trash her. She was
a difficult woman to be sure, but she wasn't a bad woman.
Laura Leff
5:42 PM
In the very early days of
the club, I used to quote all the time, "No one is ever dead until they are
forgotten. If we have anything to say about it, Jack Benny will
never die."
Steve Archer
5:42 PM
I can't imagine that will
ever happen.
Michael Rudolph
5:42 PM
As one of the longest
running sitcoms in TV history, as the first show to have a African American as a
co-star who was equal to everyone else
Laura Leff
5:42 PM
Great answer.
Maria Rudolph
5:42 PM
Thanks LL. You
are definitely keeping him alive and, as you know, the family is very grateful.
Laura Leff
5:43 PM
Freddy delivered her
eulogy. Do you have any memories of that?
Brad from Georgia
5:43 PM
And thanks from all of us
fans, too, LL. We don't tell you often enough that we appreciate all you do@
Laura Leff
5:43 PM
And I'm deeply grateful for
all your support!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:43 PM
gosh I agree. When I talk
to my undergrad college students, they have never heard of Jack Benny. But they
have never heard of Charlie Chaplin or Richard Pryor! Its the job of us fans and
writer/historians to inform the young and help keep their art alive.
Michael Rudolph
5:43 PM
Absolutely, i thank Laura
every day for keeping his name alive
Brad from Georgia
5:43 PM
That should be an
exclamation point.
Maria Rudolph
5:43 PM
I am sure you're right, LL,
but that's not what I remembered at all. I remember George starting
it and having to stop and then Bob Hope finishing it.
Laura Leff
5:44 PM
Awwwww...*blushing*
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:44 PM
I ADORE the Mary character
as such a change from the average 30s 40s female, let's promote her.
R. Hookie
5:44 PM
Dittos, Laura
Maria Rudolph
5:44 PM
Michael? Do
you remember Freddy giving the eulogy?
Brad from Georgia
5:44 PM
I'm sure Mary's laugh was a
stage laugh most of the time, but it always makes me smile when I hear it.
Laura Leff
5:44 PM
Maria - That was your
father's funeral...what about Miss Mary's?
Steve Archer
5:44 PM
Jack's comedy is so
timeless, it ain't going out of style.
Kevin Firth
5:44 PM
I don't think he will be
forgotten. it amazes me how many fans he has and new ones all the time. It's
incredible
Michael Rudolph
5:45 PM
it is so depressing to
think that the current generation has never heard of someone as important as
Charlie Chaplin
Laura Leff
5:45 PM
Freddy was who helped me
connect to her (Mary).
Brad from Georgia
5:45 PM
When Eddie Carroll did his
Jack Benny show for our college, one of the youngest attendees was eight...and
she told him "I've been a Jack Benny fan all my life."
Michael Rudolph
5:45 PM
they won't even watch
anything that is in black and white
matt
5:46 PM
first balck and white film
i saw was frankenstein
Laura Leff
5:46 PM
Michael - You'll be happy
to know that some kids were at a party here a week ago, and they knew Chaplin
and the Marx Brothers when they saw posters on my walls.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:46 PM
well, its all about
education, and this group and Laura's efforts make a big difference!
Michael Rudolph
5:46 PM
Did everyone see the
article the other week in a new York newspaper about the person who named his
kid Jack Benny?
Brad from Georgia
5:46 PM
Michael--in my film
classes, I always show two movies back to back: "Casablanca" and
"To Be or Not to Be." Students usually love both of them.
Laura Leff
5:46 PM
Oh, I contacted huim!
him
Maria Rudolph
5:47 PM
Sorry, LL,
misunderstood. Funny -- I can remember everything about the year
before she died, the day that she died (including the fact that Maria, the
upstairs maid, found her), but don't remember anything about her
funeral. It must have been at Hillside, but I have absolutely no
recollection of it. Weird.
Laura Leff
5:47 PM
He was delighted to find
out about the club!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:47 PM
remember that in 1650, they
said who's that old dead guy Shakespeare, give me Moliere...
Steve Archer
5:47 PM
Was his name Meyer Kubelsky?
Michael Rudolph
5:47 PM
Brad, that is great, what
course do you teach and where?
Laura Leff
5:47 PM
Steve - *rimshot*
Michael Rudolph
5:47 PM
Benjamin Kubelsky
Maria Rudolph
5:48 PM
Meyer was his father.
Brad from Georgia
5:48 PM
University of North
Georgia--sometimes Film and Narrative, sometimes Film and Literature. The
Narrative course is the one where I show "To Be or Not to Be."
Laura Leff
5:48 PM
Maria - I can understand
that. And makes sense that Maria found her, since I think she died
in her sleep IIRC
Maria Rudolph
5:48 PM
Wait, LL, you have posters
of Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers? In your home?
Laura Leff
5:49 PM
Don't hate me..
Michael Rudolph
5:49 PM
Oh, Maria, I was thinking
about the maid at the old Roxbury house. The only
think I remember about the last house was Miss Mary's hair dresser
Maria Rudolph
5:49 PM
Kenneth.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:49 PM
and I showed it at UTexas
Austin last November, hooray that Criterion has made a beautiful release of To
Be or Not to Be
Laura Leff
5:49 PM
Yes...I have more than just
your grandfather. I admit it.
Steve Archer
5:50 PM
Laura lines her rabbit
cages with posters of Fred Allen though.
Laura Leff
5:50 PM
HA!
Michael Rudolph
5:50 PM
Brad, that is
great. Maria, who is Kenneth?
Laura Leff
5:50 PM
I can't find my Fred Allen
poster!
Brad from Georgia
5:50 PM
<Brag> I'm in my home
office right now, and I'm looking at an autographed photo of Groucho Marx and an
autographed Hirschfeld caricature of Jack Benny. </Brag>
Laura Leff
5:50 PM
Maybe that's why...
Maria Rudolph
5:50 PM
Okay, more trivia that I
believe even LL doesn't know: Kenneth, who was Miss Mary's
hairdresser, was also Nancy Reagan's hairdresser. The day before
Miss Mary died, Mrs. Reagan was in Los Angeles and went to her house to meet
Kenneth to have her hair done. She thought Miss Mary looked awful
and called Mom up to fuss at her for not taking better care of
her. The next day, she died. Mrs. Reagan was right.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:51 PM
I have found like five old
articles directly comparing Jack Benny and Charlie Chaplin, for how they pulled
on your sympathy and were superb comic characters
Maria Rudolph
5:51 PM
Michael: her hairdresser.
5:51 PM
matt left the room (user
disconnected)
Michael Rudolph
5:51 PM
He was also Dinah Shore's
hairdresser but I don't think his name was Kenneth.
Laura Leff
5:51 PM
I'm in my home office right
now and looking at an enormous poster of the Beligan release (in the 60s) of
"To Be or Not to Be", and two original George Wachsteter caricatures
(one of Jack).
R. Hookie
5:51 PM
(bragging) I'm
watching old black and white Marlboro commercials..... I have no life.....
Brad from Georgia
5:51 PM
Where's Beliga?
Michael Rudolph
5:52 PM
I think it was something
like Fabio?
Maria Rudolph
5:52 PM
Brad: Hirschfeld made 5
drawings for Mom and the 4 grandkids. All of them were signed from
him to each of us individually. Very cool.
Michael Rudolph
5:52 PM
Beliga is right next to
Beluga
Laura Leff
5:52 PM
I knew that Nancy Reagan
had lunch with her the day before she died...didn't know there was a hair
appointment involved.
Brad from Georgia
5:52 PM
Wow! I love Hirschfeld's
style.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:52 PM
WOW, what great information
about the community of women in Hollywood, hairdressers know all
Maria Rudolph
5:52 PM
Rats, Laura. I
can't believe you even knew that.
Michael Rudolph
5:52 PM
that is the
only reason Mrs Reagan was at my grandmother's place
Kevin Firth
5:52 PM
your hairdresser is fabio....
Laura Leff
5:53 PM
Maria - Oh how cool...
Brad from Georgia
5:53 PM
Seems to me I recall
"Hairstyles by Mr. Kenneth of Hollywood" as a credit on
fifties/sixties TV shows.
Laura Leff
5:53 PM
Maria - You know who told
me that?
Maria Rudolph
5:53 PM
Julius? I
think it was Julius, not Kenneth.
Laura Leff
5:54 PM
Groucho Marx was your
grandmother's hairdresser?
Maria Rudolph
5:54 PM
I have to answer the
door...
Michael Rudolph
5:54 PM
Julius that is correct but
my hairdresser is fabio (inside joke)
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:54 PM
I really admire Mary for
being a prime member of the Hollywood woman's who's-who. It took a lot of work
to get there and keep those friendships
Brad from Georgia
5:54 PM
"That's the most
ridiculous do I've ever done."
Laura Leff
5:54 PM
If it's a a duck, maybe we
said the secret word.
Michael Rudolph
5:55 PM
quack
Phil Wala
5:55 PM
Found a reference to Julius
Bengtsson as being Nancy Reagan's California stylist.
Brad from Georgia
5:55 PM
Give the man a hundred
bucks.
Steve Archer
5:55 PM
If he did Lucy's hair too
you could call it an Orange Julius.
Laura Leff
5:55 PM
Aha! Good job,
Phil!
Brad from Georgia
5:55 PM
So I guess Kenneth only did
Liberace's hair.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:55 PM
hahaha
Laura Leff
5:55 PM
That could be a full-time
job.
Brad from Georgia
5:56 PM
You could get lost in
there.
Michael Rudolph
5:56 PM
I thought Liberace didn't
have any real hair
Brad from Georgia
5:56 PM
He sent it out.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:56 PM
while Rochester wrangled
Jack's blond, red, and black toupees
Michael Rudolph
5:56 PM
to the dry cleaners
Kevin Firth
5:56 PM
it slept in a box at
night...
Brad from Georgia
5:56 PM
Kenneth's Dry Cleaners.
Laura Leff
5:56 PM
My hairdresser is Mateo,
incidentally.
Michael Rudolph
5:56 PM
no, my grandfather used
shoe polish on his head
Kevin Firth
5:57 PM
hmmmm....
Laura Leff
5:57 PM
You got messages from the
dentist and your hairdresser...
Michael Rudolph
5:57 PM
my hairdresser's name is
Kevinissimo
Phil Wala
5:57 PM
Mr. Kenneth was Kenneth
Battelle, who did hair for Jackie Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, and Lucille
Ball. If my wife checks my browser history, she'll wonder why
someone with no hair is researching hair stylists.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
5:57 PM
he had beautiful silver
hair in the 40s, Jack I mean
Laura Leff
5:57 PM
Not Kevinissimo Firth?
Kevin Firth
5:57 PM
indeed!
Brad from Georgia
5:57 PM
I don't have a hairdresser.
I just go to the barber college.
R. Hookie
5:57 PM
I don't have
a hairdresser
Laura Leff
5:58 PM
Brad -
Why? You're not dead.
Steve Archer
5:58 PM
an Orange Kenneth just
doesn't have the same ring to it.
Laura Leff
5:58 PM
Kevin - Do you know for
sure?
Brad from Georgia
5:58 PM
Look at my hair and tell me
that.
Kevin Firth
5:58 PM
I do....
Laura Leff
5:58 PM
Oooooooo
Kevin Firth
5:58 PM
everything...
Laura Leff
5:58 PM
LOL
Michael Rudolph
5:59 PM
this i more difficult to
follow than 10 patients in the emergency room
Laura Leff
5:59 PM
Maybe we should be asking
YOU questions!
At least I hope no one is
having a heart attack or anything...
Brad from Georgia
6:00 PM
Me, I'm still working on
raising my hand.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:00 PM
is/was there an interesting
physical object in your mom's house that reminded you of your grandparents?
Laura Leff
6:00 PM
What other questions for
Michael and Maria?
Or Kevin?
Michael Rudolph
6:01 PM
Heart Attacks are easy, you
just yell orders at the nurse and continue talking in the chat room
Laura Leff
6:01 PM
Ha
Brad from Georgia
6:01 PM
Aside from corn flakes in
bed, what was Jack's favorite food? That's a trivia question to which the answer
I would like to know.
Michael Rudolph
6:01 PM
good question, thinking
Maria Rudolph
6:01 PM
Just came back from
answering the door. Glad to see I didn't miss anything.
Brad from Georgia
6:01 PM
Avon lady?
Do they still make those?
Laura Leff
6:02 PM
I still see pink cars
around sometimes...
R. Hookie
6:02 PM
That's Mary Kay
Laura Leff
6:02 PM
Maria - Any progress on
your book?
Brad from Georgia
6:02 PM
I still see pink elephants,
but I don't say much about it.
Michael Rudolph
6:02 PM
I can only think of all the
photographs
Maria Rudolph
6:02 PM
A neighbor bringing me a
ginormous bunch of peonies. I bought her puff pastry at the store
today. I think I got the better end of that deal.
No, LL, no progress.
I can't remember Granddad
having a favorite food.
Laura Leff
6:03 PM
Oh speaking of physical
objects, I have the Jack Benny coin in lucite on the table just behind
me. Thank you, Michael!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:03 PM
that's Mary Kay, I parked
next to a pink Escalade yesterday, might be a Texas thing
Maria Rudolph
6:03 PM
Michael gave you his?
Texas thang.
Michael Rudolph
6:03 PM
I have several objects that
I treasure. One is a gold money clip he gave me with "Love
always, your granddad" engraved on it
Maria Rudolph
6:04 PM
I am still jealous of the
gold money clips. Of course, the girls never got one.
Laura Leff
6:04 PM
Maria - Well, he SAID that
Gerald Ford gave it to Mary, but maybe I should have Kevin validate that...
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:04 PM
matthew Weiner is all about
his J B gold cufflinks he bought at auction
Laura Leff
6:04 PM
I have a list of the people
who got the money clip with the Bouche drawing...
Phil Wala
6:05 PM
Does a money clip from Jack
Benny ever let go?
Maria Rudolph
6:05 PM
There were a couple of
favorite restaurants though. We usually went to Trader Vic's in BH
where Mom and Miss Mary would have "navy grogs" and get
tipsy. Miss Mary was, btw, very funny and fun when she had had a
couple of navy grogs.
Michael Rudolph
6:05 PM
another memory, though
extremely bittersweet, is the last Christmas present I got from him the day
before he died. It was a brown suede jacket with fleece lining -
very outdated now, but It is still and will always be in my closet
Laura Leff
6:05 PM
How much did he give out
the cufflinks? Seems like I see the money clip more often.
Michael Rudolph
6:05 PM
money clip joke - very
funny
Laura Leff
6:05 PM
Kathy - Jerry Seinfeld has
a pair as well.
Kevin Firth
6:06 PM
yeah, that was good!
Maria Rudolph
6:06 PM
Walter
matthau had one.
Michael Rudolph
6:06 PM
you were funny also,Maria
after several Shirley Temples
Maria Rudolph
6:06 PM
Haha. Shirley
Temples are still my favorite drink.
Steve Archer
6:06 PM
Oh, Maria - that is my
favorite drink at Trader Vic's too! Laura can vouch for me since we
went there once up in the Bay area.
Michael Rudolph
6:06 PM
i think there were 200
money clips made
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:06 PM
well, I hope to use that
connection for book back over blurbs!
Laura Leff
6:06 PM
I've been to Trader
Vic's...it's still really old school!
Steve - Sure did!
Steve Archer
6:07 PM
Navy
Grogs. Shirley Temples need a shot of Johnnie Walker to make a
Shirley Temple Black.
Maria Rudolph
6:07 PM
We had to be in the
"ship room." Remember, Michael? Once, we
were seated in a different room and Miss Mary had a fit. They had
to move us.
Laura Leff
6:07 PM
When I was a kid, I used to
order a "double Shirley Temple on the rocks."
Maria Rudolph
6:07 PM
LOL
Steve. Good one.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:07 PM
I am curious about other
celebrities who have said nice things about Jack and Mary to you all?
Laura Leff
6:07 PM
Kathy - Great idea!
Michael Rudolph
6:07 PM
Laura, do you know how many
people are on that money clip list?
Goldy Hawn
Laura Leff
6:08 PM
Steve - Excuse me, I think
Brad has hijacked your account.
Brad from Georgia
6:08 PM
Leave a million dollars in
the old oak tree if you ever want to see your account again...
Maria Rudolph
6:08 PM
I've heard many comedians
credit Granddad with their timing and said wonderful things about him, but not
to me.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:08 PM
Steve Martin used a nice JB
quote yesterday in his AFI speech.
Michael Rudolph
6:09 PM
I remember at my
grandfather's wake: I didn't understand the concept of a wake and
was angry that everyone was laughing and seemed to be having a good time. Until
i went into the hall and saw goldie Hawn sitting on a chair crying
Steve Archer
6:09 PM
Brad's just a bad
influence....
Laura Leff
6:09 PM
Michael - About
100. The list is SOMEWHERE on the table right behind me, which is
chock full of all sorts of clippings, photos, even Jack's high
school yearbooks.
Brad from Georgia
6:09 PM
Eh, it's a living.
Maria Rudolph
6:09 PM
Michael, you have so
hijacked my story. I was the one that saw her and she was in the
living room all by herself.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:09 PM
oh that is so sweet about
Goldie Hawn
Maria Rudolph
6:09 PM
LL, do you have my high
school yearbooks too? I seem to have misplaced them.
Michael Rudolph
6:10 PM
lots of comedians from
Kelsey Grammer to Jon=hnny Carson imitated my grandfather's manerisms
Kevin Firth
6:10 PM
he does....
Laura Leff
6:10 PM
Maria - Not
yet. I'll let you know when that changes.
Maria Rudolph
6:10 PM
Thanks LL.
Laura Leff
6:10 PM
Gotta get your mom's
first.
Michael Rudolph
6:10 PM
that is not true she was on
the bench right outside the dining room
Brad from Georgia
6:10 PM
I heard a variant of the
classic "I'm thinking it OVER!" gag of Jack's on "The Big Bang
Theory" a few days agao.
Ago.
Agouti.
Michael Rudolph
6:11 PM
maybe she was crying in 2
places
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:11 PM
Have you all heard the nice
reminiscences from Harry Shearer, on Marc Maron's podcast, about being on the
radio show
Maria Rudolph
6:11 PM
Must have been.
No, Kathy.
Laura Leff
6:11 PM
Oh, who knew that the lead
character on "Big Bang" is named after Sheldon Leonard?
Brad from Georgia
6:11 PM
Moi.
Maria Rudolph
6:11 PM
Here's a great story from
what Michael is calling Granddad's wake.
Laura Leff
6:11 PM
I didn't know Goldie Hawn
was into astral projection.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:12 PM
I didn't know, nice
tribute?
Kevin Firth
6:12 PM
she gets around....
Maria Rudolph
6:12 PM
It was the two days before
Granddad died and the house was full of every major star of the time.
Laura Leff
6:12 PM
Kevin - Hee hee hee
Michael Rudolph
6:12 PM
ok, I will conceed that
maybe it wasn't a wake but everyone seemed to be having a good time except for
Goldie
Maria Rudolph
6:12 PM
Milton Berle was a great
magician, as was Johnny Carson. Berle was showing George Burns a
fantastic magic trick called Mr. Wizard.
Michael Rudolph
6:13 PM
Mr. Wizard - I am lost
Maria Rudolph
6:13 PM
The trick involved having
someone pick a card from a deck of cards. The magician would then
call Mr. Wizard on the phone. They would then hand the phone to the
dupe and Mr. Wizard would tell them the card that they had
picked. Great trick.
Michael Rudolph
6:13 PM
wait - is that why goldie
was crying?
Laura Leff
6:14 PM
Did Mr. Wizard guess the
wrong card for her?
Michael Rudolph
6:14 PM
Oh, I remember the Mr.
Wizard trick. I thought Rosalind Russell used it all the time
Maria Rudolph
6:15 PM
A few days later, George
was on a talk show -- I can't remember which one. He was still so
tickled with the trick that he wanted to show the audience. He got
a phone and was dialing the number of Mr. Wizard (who was really Milton Berle),
but he was saying the number out loud. On national
television. Milton Berle had to have his number changed.
Laura Leff
6:15 PM
Bahahaha!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:15 PM
hahahaha that is great
Brad from Georgia
6:15 PM
Great story.
Steve Archer
6:16 PM
You KNOW George Burns did
that on purpose. LOL.
Maria Rudolph
6:16 PM
LL, did you know that one?
Laura Leff
6:16 PM
Oh of course.
Laura Leff
6:16 PM
Maria - I didn't!
PAUL Midlick joined the
room
Maria Rudolph
6:16 PM
Btw, Mom still loves to do
that trick.
Yay -- I've gotten you
twice tonight!
R. Hookie
6:16 PM
Hi Paul
Michael Rudolph
6:16 PM
who is "Mr.Wizard"
Laura Leff
6:16 PM
Of course that George did
it on purpose.
I'm looking forward to the
third time!
Steve Archer
6:17 PM
Your mom calls Milton Berle? I
hate to break this to you but...
Michael Rudolph
6:17 PM
no, Maria, who does Mom
call?
Laura Leff
6:17 PM
Hi paul!
6:17 PM
Joe Garner left the room
(user disconnected)
Michael Rudolph
6:17 PM
Who is on first?
PAUL Midlick
6:17 PM
Hi Laura
Laura Leff
6:17 PM
Uncle Miltie is not far
away from Jack and Mary now...
Maria Rudolph
6:17 PM
Michael, I can't tell
you. No one is supposed to know. That's part of the
trick. But, try calling Mom and asking her if Mrs. Wizard is there.
Laura Leff
6:18 PM
I wondered if it was
Herman.
PAUL Midlick
6:18 PM
Jello Everyone
Brad from Georgia
6:18 PM
Oh, I know the trick now!
Maria just jogged my memory.
Maria Rudolph
6:18 PM
Jello Paul.
Michael Rudolph
6:18 PM
give me a break, who does
Mom call?
Steve Archer
6:18 PM
Hi Paul.
Phil Wala
6:18 PM
So Goldie Hawn is Mrs.
Wizard?
Laura Leff
6:18 PM
I'm heard of the
trick. I can't remember the code, but I get it.
Michael Rudolph
6:18 PM
What's on second?
Laura Leff
6:19 PM
Yes
Kevin Firth
6:19 PM
Goldie Hawn...
Brad from Georgia
6:19 PM
LL, has to do with one
person reciting slowly ... twice.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:19 PM
there's a funny thing in
Jack's papers at UCLA where they gave out a fake phone number for one of Frank
Nelson's jokes and it turned out to be a REAL number, and the onwers tried to
sue NBC for invasion of privacy , and Amrerican Tobacco ended up dealing with it
Laura Leff
6:19 PM
Brad - tThat's it!
Brad from Georgia
6:19 PM
A buddy of mine and I used
to do that years ago.
Laura Leff
6:19 PM
Kathy - That's right!
Maria Rudolph
6:19 PM
Michael -- I just texted it
to you. Sorry everyone else, although it sounds like Brad and LL
know it.
Laura Leff
6:20 PM
I have to wonder how many
people shoed up to 366 N. Camden Drive.
Maria Rudolph
6:20 PM
I would tell you, but it's
the magician's creed (which Michael knows very well) that you can't reveal the
secret to a trick.
Brad from Georgia
6:20 PM
A buddy of mine and I used
to do that. Haven't spoken to him in a long time. I'll call him later tonight
and ask to speak to Mr. Wizard.
Maria Rudolph
6:20 PM
Who lived at 366 Camden?
Michael Rudolph
6:20 PM
I was kicked out of the
Magician's union the same time I was kicked out of the local tennis club
Brad from Georgia
6:20 PM
A blacksmith. That's where
people shoed up.
Maria Rudolph
6:20 PM
Brad, here's what he will
say: "Shit. Oh
wait. Shit. Okay, jack..."
Michael Rudolph
6:21 PM
such language!
Maria Rudolph
6:21 PM
You know me.
Laura Leff
6:21 PM
It was your grandfather's
office for many year. They used the address on the show a lot as
his home. Building is still there.
Maria - ROFLMAO
Maria Rudolph
6:21 PM
I remember his office being
on Little Santa Monica.
Michael Rudolph
6:21 PM
I think I remember the
office being on Little SM also
Laura Leff
6:22 PM
That was later.
PAUL Midlick
6:22 PM
Question for the group.. If
there was a biopic made of Jack Benny's life, WHO would you like to
see play Jack?
Michael Rudolph
6:22 PM
it was upstairs?
Maria Rudolph
6:22 PM
Is everyone getting sick of
Michael and me hogging the chat?
Michael Rudolph
6:22 PM
no
Maria Rudolph
6:22 PM
Kevin
Spacey. Without question.
R. Hookie
6:22 PM
Kelsey Grammer
Brad from Georgia
6:22 PM
Probably! I remember this
pal of mine and I had swimming lessons for PE in college together. Once he
jumped off the high dive, did a bellyflop, and came foundering out of the water
gargling and choking and saying "Well! I won't try THAT again!" And I
asked, "What are you doing, an impression of Jack Benny underwater?"
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:22 PM
heavens no, its a pleasure
Laura Leff
6:22 PM
I don't remember at the
moment exactly when they moved...would have to look back at the letterhead to
triangulate the date.
R. Hookie
6:22 PM
OK, Spacey's good too
Maria Rudolph
6:22 PM
Yes,
upstairs. Was it upstairs from the Friars Club?
Laura Leff
6:22 PM
It was in the 60s.
PAUL Midlick
6:23 PM
I see no hoggin
Kevin Firth
6:23 PM
Kevin Spacey.... that would
be good...
Maria Rudolph
6:23 PM
Spacey would totally kill
it. I see Granddad every time I see him.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:23 PM
I vote for Tom Hanks, only
because he has boat loads of money adn likes history
Maria Rudolph
6:23 PM
Kathy, I don't get it.
Brad from Georgia
6:23 PM
I think Spacey would be
great, too. I dunno about Tom Hanks...didn't buy him as Disney.
Laura Leff
6:23 PM
Maria - I'd like you to hog
the chat every time!
Maria Rudolph
6:23 PM
Thanks LL.
Michael Rudolph
6:23 PM
Did anyone see Grammer do
the one person show about Jack (ala Eddie Carroll)
R. Hookie
6:24 PM
This is fun!
Brad from Georgia
6:24 PM
No--how was he?
Laura Leff
6:24 PM
Someone recently said that
Billy Crystal is starting to look like Jack.
Michael Rudolph
6:24 PM
very good, not as good as
Carroll,
Laura Leff
6:24 PM
Agreed.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:24 PM
Hanks would produce, we
need the $$ behind it , and with makeup anything is possible
Maria Rudolph
6:24 PM
I have an unfair advantage
on chats because I type 140 words per minute. I can outtype just
about anyone. Because I stuck with piano lessons for eight years
when Michael quit after six months.
Michael Rudolph
6:25 PM
Billy Crystal looks awful
Kevin Firth
6:25 PM
more like Phyllis Diller
Maria Rudolph
6:25 PM
Kevin: LOL.
Michael Rudolph
6:25 PM
because i was playing
tennis
Maria Rudolph
6:25 PM
Kevin, were you at
Michael's Oscar party the year I went?
Kevin Firth
6:25 PM
it's true!
R. Hookie
6:25 PM
I type 10 words a minute...
Laura Leff
6:25 PM
Maria - I'm not as fast as
you, but I'm pretty fast too. Gotta be here.
Brad from Georgia
6:25 PM
My son does about 140 words
a minute. I top out at about 110, 120.
Kevin Firth
6:25 PM
no, I wasnt...
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:25 PM
so let's do it in
animation. I vote for Minions to play the lay the Sportsmen
R. Hookie
6:26 PM
... but I can say 47 words
a minute...
Brad from Georgia
6:26 PM
Minions lay the Sportsmen?
Kathy, what kind of movie have you been watching?
Michael Rudolph
6:26 PM
"say 47 words a
minute"
Maria Rudolph
6:26 PM
Hookie: reminds me of Hicky. LL,
have you talked about Hicky at all?
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:26 PM
uh, not as good a typist as
you all
PAUL Midlick
6:26 PM
So who would play
Mary, Rochester, Dennis, Don and Phil?
What about drunkin Remy?
Michael Rudolph
6:26 PM
no one has talked about
Hilliard
Kevin Firth
6:26 PM
I checked your ceramic fish
from turkey for you though...
PAUL Midlick
6:27 PM
Remly
Maria Rudolph
6:27 PM
Do you like it?
R. Hookie
6:27 PM
I just did Michael.... and
I looked silly doing it!
Laura Leff
6:27 PM
Not today...but let's
change that!
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:27 PM
I'd love to learn about
Hilliard and Babe
Steve Archer
6:27 PM
Tell us what you remember
of Hickey Maria! And Babe too.
Laura Leff
6:27 PM
Remley
Maria Rudolph
6:28 PM
Again, Michael would
remember better because he's way older than I am. But I thought
Hickey was a bit creepy and Babe was a hoot and a holler.
Laura Leff
6:28 PM
Do you have any memories of
Florence?
Kevin Firth
6:28 PM
the fish? I
love it!
PAUL Midlick
6:28 PM
Remley played by Jim Carrey?
Laura Leff
6:28 PM
Fenchel, not Italy.
Michael Rudolph
6:28 PM
Florence, I
remember lots of water
R. Hookie
6:28 PM
rimshot
Laura Leff
6:28 PM
That's Venice.
Brad from Georgia
6:29 PM
"Poor kid ran away to
Italy, settled in Venice, and became a streetwalker. She drowned the first
day."
R. Hookie
6:29 PM
reverse shot
Maria Rudolph
6:29 PM
There was a TV show where
Granddad was locked in the Queen of England's jewelry vault. They
needed a King Henry belch and had Hickey record it and send it to England for
them. That pretty much sums him up.
Steve Archer
6:29 PM
Wow.
Michael Rudolph
6:29 PM
I am supposed to be on my
way to Palm Springs, I work there tomorrow. How about we continue
with Hilliard and Babe next month?
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:29 PM
hahaha thats great
Maria Rudolph
6:29 PM
I don't remember Florence
well.
Laura Leff
6:29 PM
I could tell you stories
about Hickey...but I'd have to excise them from the chat!
Maria Rudolph
6:29 PM
Better than the belch?
Laura Leff
6:30 PM
Maria - No
kidding! Three!
Michael - I vote yes!
Maria Rudolph
6:30 PM
Yeah, how long does this
chat normally go on?
Steve Archer
6:30 PM
That would be super
Michael, hope you visit again. Thanks for coming to the chat room!
Brad from Georgia
6:30 PM
Goes till we drop, Maria.
Maria Rudolph
6:30 PM
Plop plop.
Brad from Georgia
6:30 PM
Fizz fizz.
Michael Rudolph
6:30 PM
Maria dropped years ago
Laura Leff
6:31 PM
With the two of you, we
could go all night!
R. Hookie
6:31 PM
or until my dog
interrupts...
Laura Leff
6:31 PM
Maria - As long as we've
got stuff to say.
Maria Rudolph
6:31 PM
Not as many as you did.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:31 PM
as long as we can convince
you to stay, thank you !
Michael Rudolph
6:31 PM
I'm not leaving if Maria is
staying
PAUL Midlick
6:31 PM
I wish Doctor Who would
make a visit to the Era of Jack, Charlie Chaplin and Milton Berle
Laura Leff
6:31 PM
Alka Seltzer was a sponsor
for jack in the last year of the TV show...
Maria Rudolph
6:31 PM
No please, Michael, go
ahead. Really, it's okay. Bwahahaha.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:31 PM
hey Ernie, lets play two
Laura Leff
6:31 PM
*evil laugh*
Brad from Georgia
6:32 PM
I tried to talk the Atlanta
Radio Theatre Company into doing a fantasy show in which a time traveler winds
up backstage at a Benny broadcast.
Laura Leff
6:32 PM
Cool
Brad from Georgia
6:32 PM
Yeah, instead we're doing
"Treasure Island." I'm Dr. Livesey.
R. Hookie
6:32 PM
I would love to see a radio
reenactment
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:32 PM
Brad, I am trying a similar
thing with an Austin theater company haha
Laura Leff
6:33 PM
Maybe Michael leaves, and
Maria and Kevin stay and tell stories about him.
Brad from Georgia
6:33 PM
Atlanta actually has a
radio re-enactment troupe, all of them Guild actors. I begged for a bit part on
a "Fibber McGee" they did, but I don't have the union card....
PAUL Midlick
6:33 PM
Doctor Who mentioned
visiting Chaplin during the Catherine Tate season finale
R. Hookie
6:34 PM
SAG?
Brad from Georgia
6:34 PM
I dunno. They won't tell
me.
Bunch of snobs.
Michael Rudolph
6:34 PM
OK, I am really leaving
this time. It was great talking to everyone and will see you all
next year. Bye for now
Brad from Georgia
6:34 PM
By, Michael! Thanks for
dropping in!
Laura Leff
6:34 PM
Thank you Michael!
R. Hookie
6:34 PM
Good night Michael
Maria Rudolph
6:34 PM
Bye bye
Michael. Tell your car to drive safely.
PAUL Midlick
6:34 PM
Goodnight Michael
Laura Leff
6:34 PM
Group hug!
Brad from Georgia
6:35 PM
You realize he's gonna hang
around to see what Maria says about him....
R. Hookie
6:35 PM
See you next month
Steve Archer
6:35 PM
Thanks Michael - really a
pleasure!
Laura Leff
6:35 PM
Does Michael's car start
with a kiss?
Kevin Firth
6:35 PM
his car is packing for
him...
Maria Rudolph
6:35 PM
Brad, he probably doesn't
realize that his name will still show up. He's kind of stupid that
way.
Brad from Georgia
6:35 PM
Well, Jack's car started
with a bang...
Michael Rudolph
6:35 PM
No a whistle - problem is
that I can;t whistle
Maria Rudolph
6:35 PM
Just put your lips
together...
Laura Leff
6:35 PM
Just put your lips together
and blow
Heyyyyy
Maria Rudolph
6:36 PM
Ha LL, beat you to it.
R. Hookie
6:36 PM
Micheal may be checking the
transcripts
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:36 PM
haha I was waiting for the
other shoe to drop
Maria Rudolph
6:36 PM
I guess my 140 beats your
whatever.
Brad from Georgia
6:36 PM
Ever been bit by a dead
bee?
Maria Rudolph
6:36 PM
Kathy, I was
too. I put the opening out there but no one stepped through it.
Brad from Georgia
6:36 PM
Sorry, sometimes I randomly
channel Walter Brennan...
Laura Leff
6:37 PM
I guess we're exercising
HipChat tonight...I'm tying and I'm way ahead of what's on the screen!
Phil Wala
6:37 PM
Did you ever hunt bear?
R. Hookie
6:37 PM
Now that's the real McCoy
Brad from Georgia
6:37 PM
No, I always wore long
johns.
Steve Archer
6:37 PM
It's a little lagging for
me too Laura, weird.
Laura Leff
6:37 PM
typing...Just goes to prove
it...
Brad from Georgia
6:37 PM
Great Walter Brennan line,
btw: "Bear grease."
Maria Rudolph
6:37 PM
Okay, folks, I think I'm
going to drop off too. This has really been a
blast. It's nice to feel special once in a
while. Thanks for making me feel like royalty again.
Brad from Georgia
6:38 PM
Thank you, Maria. You ARE
special.
PAUL Midlick
6:38 PM
I'm on the Android app
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:38 PM
you ARE, thanks!
Laura Leff
6:38 PM
Our
pleasure! Please do come back next month!
R. Hookie
6:38 PM
Thanks for being here!!!!
Steve Archer
6:38 PM
So great to have you join
Maria!
Phil Wala
6:38 PM
It's been an honor and a
pleasure.
Laura Leff
6:38 PM
Maria Rudolph
6:38 PM
Okay,
Michael. Hang up now.
Brad from Georgia
6:38 PM
Gad, these two could say
goodbye all night....
Laura Leff
6:38 PM
Oh I see the head game.
PAUL Midlick
6:39 PM
Goodnight Maria.. Nice to
hear from a laughing legends family
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:39 PM
a perfect Mary line!
Maria Rudolph
6:39 PM
Hey Michael, your car is
leaving without you.
Brad from Georgia
6:39 PM
"You hang up."
"No, YOU hang up." "No, YOU hang u--she hung up on me!"
Laura Leff
6:39 PM
There's a joke about saying
goodbye and never leaving...
Twombley!
PAUL Midlick
6:40 PM
I do that all the time..
The Italian in me
Brad from Georgia
6:40 PM
Have you ever had the
feeling that you wanted to go, but still had the feeling that you wanted to
stay?"
Maria Rudolph
6:40 PM
Over and out.
(Granddad
used to stick his tongue out at us when he was being silly -- that's what they
emoticon is supposed to be.)
Laura Leff
6:40 PM
Yes. That's
when I take Ex-Lax.
ove it.
Brad from Georgia
6:40 PM
My sister is the WORST.
When I'm ready to go, she says she is, but then she hangs around and talks to
everyone in sight until whatever joint we're in either kicks us out or closes,
or both.
6:40 PM
Michael Rudolph left the
room (user disconnected)
Laura Leff
6:41 PM
Love it
PAUL Midlick
6:41 PM
?
Laura Leff
6:41 PM
I can sense that we're all
holding our breath to see what happens...
Brad from Georgia
6:42 PM
Bad part is we were at a
memorial service honoring my late mother, among others. They literally turned
the lights out on us, and I'm sure the poor lady my sister had cornered was
beginning to think she'd die herself before getting to go home.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:42 PM
and to think that, no
matter what, NBC would cut
Jack off at 7:29:59.
Brad from Georgia
6:42 PM
"Goodnight, folks,
we're a little la--"
Laura Leff
6:42 PM
Bing-bong-bonggggg
PAUL Midlick
6:42 PM
Michael is still lurking?!?
Brad from Georgia
6:42 PM
Perfectly timed, Laura!
R. Hookie
6:42 PM
Notes are G -E - C
Steve Archer
6:42 PM
Laura Leff
6:42 PM
No, but Maria is!
Brad from Georgia
6:42 PM
Jack would be proud.
Kathy Fuller-Seeley
6:42 PM
abyssinnia!
6:42 PM
Maria Rudolph left the room
(user disconnected)
6:43 PM
Kathy Fuller-Seeley left
the room (user disconnected)
Phil Wala
6:43 PM
Any comments on the 3/16/47
show? I remembered reading in “Sunday Nights at Seven” that
there was quite a reaction to the “hell” incident, because Bing had recently
portrayed a priest, and no one believed Bing would have ad-libbed such a
line. Even an NBC VP was sure it was planned by Jack and his
writers. Jack refused to apologize.
Laura Leff
6:43 PM
OK, Kevin...tell
all.
6:44 PM
Kevin Firth left the room
(user disconnected)
Brad from Georgia
6:44 PM
I got a kick out of the
Oscar bit at the beginning of the show. Somebody explain why Hugo/Hoagy
Carmichael was funny? Did Goldwyn mispronounce Hoagy's name?
Laura Leff
6:44 PM
I wouldn't either if I were
Jack. He didn't plan it, and can't control everything.
Steve Archer
6:44 PM
I find it hard to believe
that people would find it hard to believe Bing would say "hell"
Laura Leff
6:44 PM
He called him Hugo
Carmicahel at the Oscars.
I found that in a Tralfaz
post!
Brad from Georgia
6:45 PM
I thought that was probably
it!
6:45 PM
Gregory D. Smith left the
room (user disconnected)
6:45 PM
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(lost connection)
6:45 PM
PAUL Midlick joined the
room
Steve Archer
6:45 PM
Hoagy Carmichael = Polar
Bear Sandwich
R. Hookie
6:45 PM
So, what's next month going
to be?
Laura Leff
6:45 PM
So what else about the show
for tonight?
PAUL Midlick
6:46 PM
What's the url for the
show? Running Android in circles here...
Brad from Georgia
6:46 PM
A couple of things: I loved
the way the audience anticipated the borrowed tux joke. Jack ad-libbed,
"Well, we didn't even have to finish it!"
Also, Jack did a nice
little Irish brogue for one line.
Laura Leff
6:46 PM
http://www.jackbenny.org/media/47-03-16%20Jack%27s%20New%20Quartet.mp3
R. Hookie
6:47 PM
The tux joke was good
Steve Archer
6:47 PM
Jack called Mary "dollface".
Brad from Georgia
6:47 PM
Jack called Phil
"schlemiel."
Laura Leff
6:47 PM
I love Rochester's blooper.
PAUL Midlick
6:47 PM
Thanks Laura
Brad from Georgia
6:47 PM
Yep, that was very funny!
Steve Archer
6:47 PM
Rochester flubbed his bread
joke - rare to hear Eddie get scrambled.
Laura Leff
6:47 PM
Sure.
PAUL Midlick
6:48 PM
I like this chat thru
Android
Laura Leff
6:48 PM
Steve - Indeed.
PAUL Midlick
6:48 PM
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Brad from Georgia
6:48 PM
"To balance the
porprotion-- porportions--"
Laura Leff
6:48 PM
Paul - *big grin*
That's a GREAT set y'know...
PAUL Midlick
6:49 PM
Any word on any
future official releases?
Laura Leff
6:49 PM
And here's a little known
secreat...
R. Hookie
6:49 PM
Any word on Vol 2?
Laura Leff
6:49 PM
Paul - None right
now. Sales were not as flourishing as we's hoped.
Brad from Georgia
6:49 PM
The shilling gag--Jack got
it from Rex Harrison as a tip, paid for breakfast at the Owl drugstore...etc...
classic "delayed brick" gag, paying off with Crosby's line toward the
end.
Laura Leff
6:50 PM
The Bouche on that cover?
Brad from Georgia
6:50 PM
Yesssssss?
Laura Leff
6:50 PM
It started off as a super-hgh-res
scan of the album cover of The Jack Benny Story.
My copy, of course.
PAUL Midlick
6:51 PM
?
Laura Leff
6:51 PM
Shout folks doctored it
from there.
Steve Archer
6:51 PM
Does the original of the
Bouche exist somewhere?
R. Hookie
6:52 PM
I bet Laura has it
PAUL Midlick
6:52 PM
Would love to see the old
MCA remasters put on dvd
Laura Leff
6:52 PM
So what else Benny'wise is
on everyone's mind? And do you have a request for a show next
month? We'll be in the summer now.
Hookie - Ha
I wish
R. Hookie
6:53 PM
Well.....
Brad from Georgia
6:53 PM
Hmmm.... Maybe a summer
replacement show for Jack's? Have we done that?
Laura Leff
6:53 PM
It should theoretically be
at CBS.
PAUL Midlick
6:53 PM
Wonder if they could get
the Carol Burnett episode as an extra on her collection
Brad from Georgia
6:53 PM
BTW, I apologize for
suggesting last month's show and then missing the chat. I was at sea. Literally.
R. Hookie
6:53 PM
How about a show with Jack
as a guest?
Laura Leff
6:54 PM
They'd have to license it
from NBC. They own it.
Brad - Yuo and Rochester.
Brad from Georgia
6:54 PM
Hey, I passed by the
clothing-optional beach and didn't even peek.
Steve Archer
6:54 PM
I'm up for luck of the draw
for next chat.
Brad from Georgia
6:54 PM
...darned fog...
Laura Leff
6:55 PM
Hookie - OK...any
particular one, or luck of the draw?
R. Hookie
6:55 PM
Hmmmm...............
Laura Leff
6:55 PM
Dang...that's the first
time my typing didn't buffer.
PAUL Midlick
6:55 PM
Too many legalities to
boggle the mind... Would have been great if the Benny Family owned it all like
The Arnaz family owns all of the Lucy series
R. Hookie
6:56 PM
Burns and Allen??
Laura Leff
6:56 PM
Paul - At least they own
the specials.
Brad from Georgia
6:56 PM
Halls of Ivy?
Laura Leff
6:56 PM
Hookie - OK, I can do that.
Brad from Georgia
6:57 PM
I change my vote. Burns and
Allen would be funnier.
Laura Leff
6:57 PM
No, we've dne Halls of Ivy
a couple of times already.
PAUL Midlick
6:57 PM
Who used to license Burns
& Allen and Jack Benny when they licensed to PBS in the 1990s?
Laura Leff
6:57 PM
MCA
PAUL Midlick
6:57 PM
Ok
And MCA is now part of
who's properties?
Laura Leff
6:57 PM
Now part of NBC by
merger/acquisition
PAUL Midlick
6:57 PM
Ok
Laura Leff
6:57 PM
MCA
MCA Universal
PAUL Midlick
6:58 PM
Ok
Laura Leff
6:58 PM
Universal Vivendi
R. Hookie
6:58 PM
Comcast
Brad from Georgia
6:58 PM
My wife got a new car for
our anniversary...it has satellite radio in it, and I've heard a couple of Jack
Benny programs on the OTR station. She keeps it tuned to sixties rock.
Laura Leff
6:58 PM
NBC Universal
PAUL Midlick
6:58 PM
And they only license for
syndication to the retro networks?
R. Hookie
6:59 PM
Aren't those mostly public
domain shows?
Laura Leff
6:59 PM
They'll license to anyone
who will pay the price, but they don't actively market it.
Brad from Georgia
6:59 PM
Ten PM and I have an early
day tomorrow. I think I'll bow out. It's been great fun!
R. Hookie
6:59 PM
Good night Brad
Laura Leff
7:00 PM
Take care
Brad! Always good to have you here!
Hookie - Oh, don't get me
started. Many of the later ones (but not all) are under copyright
to NBC.
As for the
others...well...don't get me started.
7:01 PM
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room (user disconnected)
Steve Archer
7:01 PM
night brad!
R. Hookie
7:01 PM
Sorry
PAUL Midlick
7:01 PM
And the only DVD sets are
the official lost set, and all of the public domain
discs? How can the official set also have some ofthe same public
domain shows?
Laura Leff
7:02 PM
Hookie - No, it's just an
ongoing pain point with me.
R. Hookie
7:02 PM
I can understand
Laura Leff
7:02 PM
Well, here's the deal.
I'll see if I can resist
climbing on a box of Oxydol
R. Hookie
7:03 PM
You don't use the liquid?
PAUL Midlick
7:03 PM
Try Gain Pods
R. Hookie
7:03 PM
No, I like to measure
Laura Leff
7:03 PM
The copyright law says that
the term starts from the date of "publication."
So the question is whether
broadcast = publication.
7:04 PM
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the room (user disconnected)
R. Hookie
7:04 PM
I think it would
Laura Leff
7:04 PM
See, I bored somewone
already.
PAUL Midlick
7:04 PM
Ok
Laura Leff
7:05 PM
Publication can also be the
making of multiple copies for distribution.
PAUL Midlick
7:05 PM
Was there a tight time line
that made some public domain, or did reruns effect this?
Laura Leff
7:06 PM
When you look at Jack's own
copies, you can see that they're "Copy 15" or whatever.
So, certain companies (like
a former employer of James Aubrey)
LIke to have it both ways.
Steve Archer
7:07 PM
BTW you guys literally
reminded me I needed to throw wash in the dryer, so thank you!
PAUL Midlick
7:07 PM
Lol Steve
Laura Leff
7:07 PM
Ha
R. Hookie
7:07 PM
Its what we do
Laura Leff
7:08 PM
So when "they"
want to license something, they'll argue that broadcast = publication and that
the show in question is PD
But when someone else wants
to use a show, they'll argu that it's unpublished and that it's not PD.
Steve Archer
7:09 PM
Good thing I'll have this
shirt tomorrow.
Laura Leff
7:09 PM
And that t"they"
own it. But can't prove it.
R. Hookie
7:09 PM
Sounds like a mess
PAUL Midlick
7:10 PM
So THAT'S also why The Lucy
Show Jack Benny's Vault episode I've seen in near perfect condition on a PD
disc, yet I've seen horrible copies of it too
Laura Leff
7:11 PM
And the companies that
would want to license that material don't have the legal and financial resources
to stare them down on it. So they keep getting away with it.
Phil Wala
7:11 PM
“First, we kill all the
lawyers.”
PAUL Midlick
7:11 PM
Sounds like the same line
that Radio Spirits is/tried with OtR
Is there a time that the
Benny license would actually expire?
Laura Leff
7:12 PM
It makes my heart bleed
because it stops sets like season sets of classic shows from being createdd.
Steve Archer
7:12 PM
Yuck. Copyright
law, always sounds like such a morass.
Laura Leff
7:13 PM
Paul - Not all at the same
time. But it's a while from now.
R. Hookie
7:13 PM
Yes, I'm still waiting for
later seasons of my favorite shows
Laura Leff
7:14 PM
Believe me, I've run into
more asses regarding copyright law than just about anywhere.
Steve Archer
7:15 PM
"More asses than a
Francis film festival"
Laura Leff
7:15 PM
And on that note...
Shall we call it good for
this month?
R. Hookie
7:15 PM
I'm done
Phil Wala
7:15 PM
I was waiting for someone
to jump on the “morass” reference. Anyway, I gotta
go. For some reason, Goldie Hawn in crying in my living
room. It’s been fun.
Steve Archer
7:15 PM
Sounds good - great chat!
Laura Leff
7:15 PM
Steve - Excellent.
PAUL Midlick
7:15 PM
IMO the unrestored shows
should be PD, and newly restored official shows should be
copyrighted because of the time and effort put into restoration
Laura Leff
7:16 PM
PHil - And
mine. Thanks!
Paul - I wish we could
convince "them" of that.
PAUL Midlick
7:16 PM
Gite J'all.. Great
to have the chat on my phone now ?
Laura Leff
7:17 PM
OK, thanks
folks! Have a great month!