IJBFC Chat - February 13, 2011
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[ed
kienzler] hi boss
[Laura
Leff] Hi folks
[Brad
from Georgia] Hiya, boss!
[Laura
Leff] How's everyone doing tonight?
[john]
Hello! I'd though I'd give this a (first) try.
[Brad
from Georgia] Doing well, thanks. You?
[Laura
Leff] Welcome in, John. Glad you could join us.
[ed
kienzler] okay sittin here w/ acold cut combo and pepsi
[john]
I'm doing well also
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, Laura--I've got something I need to talk with you
about--but I'll send an email sometime this week. It's nice news, I think.
[Laura
Leff] I have been through 14" of snow in New York, an ice storm
in Philadelphia, and -10F in Chicago. So my condolences to anyone in poor
weather at the moment.
[john]
Thank you, Laura. Glad to be "here"
[ed
kienzler] warmed up to nearly 60* today
[Brad
from Georgia] We had a couple of deep snows, unusual for GA, but now
it's seasonal--fifty in the daytime, low thirties at night.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - OK. I'm on the road again this week, so apologies if I'm
slow on the uptake.
[Laura
Leff] John - What region of the country are you in?
[Brad
from Georgia] No problem. This is a long-range project, but I'd love
your input and help.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - OK, let's see what we can do.
[john]
I'm in Manteca, sunny California -- snow? What's that?
[ed
kienzler] only in the mountains john...
[Laura
Leff] Ah, another person to represent CA with me
[Brad
from Georgia] Cool line on "Simpsons" just now from Moe:
"I dabbled in Satanism, but I was asked to leave..."
[ed
kienzler] ha ha
[Laura
Leff] So what did folks think of the show for tonight?
[john]
Very funny
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--Barbara and I are planning to travel to CA probably
the first week in May. Love to get together with you if we can.
[Brad
from Georgia] I liked the show. The '47 shows really hit their
stride.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Will you be in Northern or Southern California?
[Brad
from Georgia] Encino. What's that considered?
[john]
It had a little bit of everything, I think: Isaac Stern's music, good lines, and
I like the ending.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Southern. About 400 miles away from me.
[Laura
Leff] Plus the Colmans...
[ed
kienzler] the latter JB shows were more sitcomish lack of a better
word
[Brad
from Georgia] I liked the repetition of the Dorothy Kirsten gag! It
didn't get the same huge laugh, but it was funny in this context, too. That's
Mary's "Aw, shut up!"
[Laura
Leff] This show was redone on television, but I don't think it was a
Jack birthday episode. Just Jack giving a dinner party.
[Brad
from Georgia] I don't think Mary was quite as sharp this time around.
[Laura
Leff] I thought the Kirsten gag was after this...*going to look it
up*
[john]
Brad, do you mean sharp as in acerbic or as in "witty"
[Brad
from Georgia] Mel Blanc was sadly underused, this time. He had a
bigger role on the next week's show (two, in fact).
[Brad
from Georgia] Acerbic. With the Kirsten, she came in faster and it
was more of a put-down.
[Laura
Leff] Kirsten 4/25/48
[Brad
from Georgia] Ah-hah! It worked better the SECOND time!
[john]
That's what I thought - I hadn't heard the Kirsten episode yet.
[ed
kienzler] same gere
[Brad
from Georgia] It's a funny one
[ed
kienzler] here*
[john]
Thanks, Laura -- I'll try to find that one..
[Laura
Leff] It's pretty available. It was one of the first two Benny
programs I ever got (on 8-track no less)
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--I was just saying that the 2/23/47 show's very
funny, too. EVERYone was blowing lines (Mary put weird inflections on a reading;
Eddie Anderson got all tangled up; and even Don flubbed. This was one of those
"ONE rehearsal, that's ALL I ask" shows.
[john]
Going back to Mel Blanc -- I agree. He is extremely funny -- what part did he
play in this episode? I didn't catch it.
[ed
kienzler] radio shows were hard to hear on those weren't they LL
[Brad
from Georgia] Mel was the assistant to the pots and pans man--"Dat
goes double for me."
[john]
That was him! Should've known.
[Brad
from Georgia] On tonight's show, I did laugh out loud at Rochester's
sturgeon/caviar joke.
[Brad
from Georgia] Dennis was okay, not as funny as he can be; the Colmans
were great.
[john]
The writing is so good. They always do a good set up in the beginning and play
off of later in the show -- catches a person off guard.
[Laura
Leff] I even quoted that one time when I was at dinner and the waiter
cut into a prawn that was full of roe
[ed
kienzler] ronald had a great voice for radio
[Brad from Georgia] I love the way they plant a gag early and then make it pay off unexpectedly much later.
[john]
That's why I meant to say but you said it much better
[Brad
from Georgia] Doesn't Dennis do a great Colman in this one!
[Brad
from Georgia] "If I were king..."
[john]
I was even wondering if it was Colman speaking
[ed
kienzler] true
[Laura
Leff] Dennis was a great mimic all around
[Laura
Leff] Trying to remember if he or Frankie Fontaine did Winston
Churchill in the 50 cents episode
[Brad
from Georgia] Yes, we've talked about his "Crazy
Guggenheim" before. Dead-on. And the TV spot where he and Don do Laurel and
Hardy--he's very good as Laurel.
[john]
I've never heard any of his own shows -- are they comparable to JB shows?
[Laura
Leff] Ah, Fontaine does that. Oh well.
[Brad
from Georgia] Dennis's shows are...what should I say? Milder.
Pleasant, sometimes very funny, but mellower generally. He's the same goofy
character.
[ed
kienzler] colman's was made for radio not TV...
[Laura
Leff] I have to admit that I haven't spent a lot of time listening to
them, because people don't speak very highly of them...
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--I was talking about the TV show, where Jack played
Gleason's "Joe the Bartender" to Dennis's Fontaine.
[john]
Sounds interesting -- of course, nobody can beat JB, but then I'm prejudiced.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Yes...I was talking about that Fontaine does the
Churchill imitation. Sorry for the confusion.
[Brad
from Georgia] The pacing on Dennis's show is not as precise as on
Jack's, and frequently the plots are perfunctorily wrapped up without any real
pay-off.
[john]
I'd say it's probably reflective on the quality of writers one has
[Brad
from Georgia] Did anyone catch the short off-mike sentence at the
very end, as Ronnie and Benita are talking?
[john]
No, only a blurb. I couldn't make it out.
[Brad
from Georgia] Jack had the best writers, and he was a good comedy
writer himself. And a superb comedy editor, the best.
[ed
kienzler] and he let the others have the best lines
[Laura
Leff] I'll look it up
[john]
It was why he was so loved and it contributed to his wide fan base, I think, as
well as his timelessness.
[Brad
from Georgia] Jack: "I don't care who gets the laughs. The next
day, people still say, 'The Jack Benny show was hilarious last night,' so I get
the credit."
[john]
He was very smart and down to earth that way. No big ego.
[Laura
Leff] I can't remember the last line in the recording, but here's the
scripted exchange.
[Brad
from Georgia] John--Right. I don't like listening to Bob Hope shows
from the forties because they're so topical that I don't get the majority of the
jokes. Jack's aren't like that.
[Laura
Leff] Ronnie: You know, Benita, I was never so embarrassed in my
life.
[Laura
Leff] Benita: It certainly was humiliating.
[Laura
Leff] Ronnie: Yes.
[Laura
Leff] Stern: And I had to play my violin yet...or tried to, anyway.
[Laura
Leff] Ronnie: What an evening! Mr. Stern, why don't you come in and
have coffee with us.
[Laura
Leff] Stern: Thank you, I will.
[Laura
Leff] The end
[Laura
Leff] Not a huge payoff...so much good stuff in the middle I guess
you don't need it.
[Brad
from Georgia] I don't recall the last three lines at all. Ronnie
says, "Benita...that party we're planning..." and Benita says,
"Ronnie, don't you DARE!" (referring to the demo meal cooked by the
pot and pan guys).
[Laura
Leff] Here, I'll pull the audio
[john]
That was great
[Brad
from Georgia] I didn't hear Stern at all, unless he might have been
the off-mike voice.
[Laura
Leff] Yes, he was the off-mike voice. Obviously punched up the gag
last-minute--much better than the script I had.
[Brad
from Georgia] Stern, by the way, must have been a good sport. Of
course he got great publicity.
[john]
and talent!!
[ed
kienzler] did he play w/jack in real life?
[Laura
Leff] He had met Jack, introduced by Danny Kaye, just a year or so
before this. It's what inspired Jack to get serious about his playing.
[Brad
from Georgia] Yes, he and Jack played together several times.
[john]
Yes, I saw it on Youtube -- very good (Isaac that was)
User
Phil Curry has entered this room.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Yes, on a number of occasions. There's a video of them
doing the Bach double concerto.
[Laura
Leff] Hi Phil
[ed kienzler] hi phil curry
[john]
Hello, Phil
[Phil
Curry] Jell-o
[Brad
from Georgia] Hi, Phil.
[ed
kienzler] hello jackson
[Brad
from Georgia] Once or twice Don called Jack "Jascha" Benny
on the air. Wonder if he ever called him "Isaac" Benny.
[Laura
Leff] Phil - We're just discussing the show for tonight.
[Phil
Curry] Finally remembered a Chat. Figured it would be today since
tomorrow's Jack's birthday
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I don't think so. But I do remember Jack in "The
Mouse That Jack Built" saying, "Who is this Isaac Stern?"
[Brad
from Georgia] Thirty-nine again, Phil.
[ed
kienzler] and th f-ball game was last week
[Brad
from Georgia] Yes, I remember that now.
[Laura
Leff] The jump from Jack to Jascha makes sense. I think from Jack to
Isaac would probably be too loose.
[Laura
Leff] La Trek
[john]
How many times was Isaac Stern on the JB radio show, Laura?
[Brad
from Georgia] End title music for "The Simpsons":
"Love Is Blue," followed by the Witch's theme from "Wizard of
Oz."
[Laura
Leff] Twice I think...let me double-check that. I sent Isaac copies
of all his work with Jack, because he didn't have any of it.
[Laura
Leff] Yep, two. 2/3/46 and 2/16/47.
[Brad
from Georgia] Agh, I have to go. I was at a writers' meeting all
afternoon, and Barbara started dinner late. It's ready now. Oddly, the same menu
as on the show tonight.
[john]
Thanks... You ever meet Isaac?
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Don't let them lock the door on you.
[Brad
from Georgia] (No, she just corrected me: No sturgeon. Goodnight,
all! Wish I could stay longer.)
[Laura
Leff] John - Yes, I had breakfast with him when he was in San
Francisco. Even drove him to his next meeting in my little Miata.
[john]
Nice chatting, Brad. I'll have to do it again
User
Brad from Georgia has logged out.
[ed
kienzler] bye brad
[Laura
Leff] So what else on the show for discussion?
[Laura
Leff] Or anything Benny-wise?
[john]
I'm sorry -- I have to go too. Church in just a little while.. So long
[Laura
Leff] Good night, John...thanks for stopping!
[ed
kienzler] are they doing anything in waukegan tomorrow?
[john]
You're welcome.. been fun
[Phil
Curry] Man, I log in a 2 folks leave.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Someone told me they intended to do something, but I
haven't heard anything since then. It was pretty informal.
User
john has logged out.
[Laura
Leff] Geez Phil...you're riding people out of here on a rail
(kidding0.
[Laura
Leff] Well, any Benny-related topics?
[Phil
Curry] Maybr ZI should have used a fake name like I've always done
before
[ed
kienzler] what was that?
[Laura
Leff] Phil - I'm sure it's nothing personal.
[Phil
Curry] Saw a DVD set of 39 episodes at Half-Price books this week,
but didn';t get it
[Laura
Leff] Actually I've been feeling less than 100% today, so a short
chat wouldn't be a bad thing for me.
[ed
kienzler] na it might too good a night to be inside for a change
[Phil
Curry] I think it was by Millwork or something like that
[Laura
Leff] Phil - Wonder if that's the "Best of" Radio Spirits
set.
[Laura
Leff] Phil - Radio or television?
[Phil
Curry] TV
[ed
kienzler] there some good ones at mysteryshows.com
[Phil
Curry] 4 DVD set
[Laura
Leff] OIC...yes, not sure who has that out.
[Phil
Curry] Was brand new. Also Ozzie and Harriet TV, 50 episodes for 8.88
[Laura
Leff] Any requests for a show in March?
[ed
kienzler] a saint patriks day show if there is one
[Laura
Leff] Ed - I don't think they did a whole show on St. Pat's, but just
references to it with Dennis.
[Phil
Curry] I always liked the one where the kids do the show, there are 2
of them
[ed
kienzler] that still would be fine
[Laura
Leff] I think we did one of the kids' shows on a chat a while back...
[Laura
Leff] I should try and get one of the actors to drop in on the chat
and we could do it again.
[Laura
Leff] Sorry to be a killjoy. Other thoughts?
[ed
kienzler] sounds like a great idea LL
[ed
kienzler] not tonight slow news and chat day
[Laura
Leff] OK, let me get a little more settled with all my travelling and
I'll see about that for a future month.
[ed
kienzler] ok LL safe travels
[Laura
Leff] Gosh Phil...sorry that there's not much more going on here by
the time you arrived.
[Phil
Curry] OK. Glad the shoelaces were I hit that I sent.
[ed
kienzler] haha
[Phil
Curry] Plastic tips
[Laura
Leff] Yes! I held them up in front of everyone when I opened the
package, and sent all the letters around for people to read. They were
definitely very fun.
[Laura
Leff] And the receipt so Jack can return them too. Very good.
[ed
kienzler] were they 39 cents?
[Laura
Leff] OK...well, I guess we'll call it good for this month.
[ed
kienzler] bye boss
[Phil
Curry] Good, I'm glad. I felt like a kid in the hall.
[Laura
Leff] Thanks for stopping! Hope to see you in March.