IJBFC Chat - July 13, 2008
(Name of message originator in [] brackets at the beginning of each line)
[Maxwell]
At least that's the part of it I remember.
[ed
kienzler] hey boss
[josef]
Hi Laura
[Brad
from Georgia] Hi, Laura.
[Michael]
Hi there Laura
[Laura
Leff] Oh my whatta crowd!
[Maxwell]
Hi LL!
[KayLhota]
Hi Laura
[Laura
Leff] Welcome in folks!
[ed
kienzler] hi LL
[Laura
Leff] How's everyone doing tonight?
[KayLhota]
thanks and well
[Michael]
am doing fine
[Maxwell]
Much better than last month (when I wasn't here)!
[Brad
from Georgia] Down with a bit of a bug, but OK.
[ed
kienzler] FABOULUS!!!
[KayLhota]
sorry to hear that, Brad
[josef]
yeah
[Michael]
same here Brad
[Maxwell]
Step on that bug!
[Laura
Leff] Need an exterminator
[ed
kienzler] use repellant
[ed
kienzler] kidding
[KayLhota]
hope this chat lifts at least your spirits, Brad
[Brad
from Georgia] Just tummy trouble. I'm getting better (yesterday I was
a newt).
[Michael]
or at least listening to this months show....
[Laura
Leff] No newts is good newts.
[ed
kienzler] OUCH!!!
[FrankLhota]
"The Untouchables" needed more Irish gangsters.
[Maxwell]
Like Bugs Moran.
[KayLhota]
you'd have to go to MA for them.
[Michael]
Frank.... only if Ness & the gang hit the North side
[ed
kienzler] like J.Carroll Naish...
[Maxwell]
(Supposedly a relative of mine was Moran's driver)
[Laura
Leff] Frank - see the Academy Award for best picture a couple years
ago
[Brad
from Georgia] T.J. English wrote a whole book about the Irish
gangsters: "Paddy Whacked." I am not kidding.
[KayLhota]
Don't forget, we're from Boston
[Laura
Leff] How did we get onto the subject of Irish gangsters? Because I
was in Ireland?
[Brad
from Georgia] No, just listening to Dennis Day.
[ed
kienzler] ???
[Laura
Leff] Or is someone unhappy with the EU vote.
[KayLhota]
no, we got to chatting about The Untouchables TV series
[FrankLhota]
No, because of the Untouchables.
[Laura
Leff] I didn't know Dennis Day was an Irish gangster.
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, I thought you said gagster.
[Laura
Leff] BTW, that movie I mentioned, which I saw recently and can't
even remember the name, wasn't very good.
[KayLhota]
good one, Brad
[Michael]
I'm sure he could have sounded like one if he wanted to
[Maxwell]
I always thought it was a neat coincidence that the Untouchables theme was
written by Nelson Riddle.
[Laura
Leff] Even though it won the Academy Award for best picture.
[KayLhota]
The Departed is best departed, Laura
[FrankLhota]
Nowadays most series could be renamed "The Unwatchables".
[Laura
Leff] Kay - Yeah, that's it.
[ed
kienzler] TRUE!!!
[Michael]
true Frank
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Good one.
[KayLhota]
That isn't saying much for the recent products
[Brad
from Georgia] Frank--That was MAD magazine's name for its parody of
"The Untouchables."
[Laura
Leff] Mental concept of Dennis Day saying, "You dirty
rat..."
[KayLhota]
oh my God
[Michael]
[Laura
Leff] Someone just recently asked me for info on a Benny TV show with
guest George Raft
[KayLhota]
I can't recover from that!
[Brad
from Georgia] "You dirty rat, the pipes, the pipes are
calling....From hood to hood and down the Purple mob...."
[FrankLhota]
Bugs Bunny parodied the Untouchables as well \.
[Laura
Leff] it looks like they may have done the lunch counter murder with
him again.
[KayLhota]
oh I see.
Maxwell
remembers the version of that with Dan Duryea.
[Laura
Leff] Yeah, him too.
[KayLhota]
Chiss Swise sandwich
[Laura
Leff] And Edward G. Robinson on radio
[Maxwell]
Right.
[ed
kienzler] my niece, laura, is doing a family interview for a project
from Chicago State, and when she
[Laura
Leff] And someone else...can't remember who right off.
[Brad
from Georgia] Brad is amazed that Maxwell's memory shows up in blue.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell has a dirty mind.
[ed
kienzler] interviewed me jack's new dvd was right behind me playing
[Maxwell]
To do that, type /me and the rest of your thought.
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[Laura
Leff] Ed - Intentionally?
[Brad
from Georgia] That's why brainwashing was invented.
Maxwell
types /me first.
[Michael]
so....... how about the show.........
[ed
kienzler] yes
[KayLhota]
oops we lost Josef
Michael
thought it was very silly
Brad
from Georgia
Well, I'll be danred.
[Maxwell]
Where's Josef Haydn?
[FrankLhota]
Josef was taken for a ride.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - He's hidin'.
[ed
kienzler] i set it up so that it was playing during that time
[Laura
Leff] Ed - So having Jack upstage you, as it were.
[ed
kienzler] so of...
[Laura Leff] So what did people think of the show for this month?
[Michael]
it's one of my favourites
[Brad
from Georgia] "Jack, did you take violin lessons when you were
little?" "Yes. Well, not very often. When I went for a lesson, my
music teacher was Haydn."
[KayLhota]
well, I suggested it because it is a personal favorite
[ed
kienzler] and she asked me who my fav comic was i said jack benny...
[Michael]
ranks right up there with when George hits Jack over the head with his violin
[Maxwell]
It's one of Jack's best guest appearance.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - And she said "who?"
[Maxwell]
Or appearances
[ed
kienzler] she knows who he is...
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--It made me think of the story of Jack's performing
as a gypsy violinist for the tourist bus.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - Very true...very in keeping with his character.
[KayLhota]
it's solid gold Burns and Allen, and Jack Benny
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Oh right, when he did it for Lucy and got locked out.
[Michael]
I love it when George starts ad libbing about his being a pickle salesman
[Laura
Leff] Michael - There's one point where George says something to
Jack, and the audience is laughing so much you can be pretty sure Jack was
trying not to crack up.
[Brad
from Georgia] I lost one of Jack's lines, an ad-lib, I think. Georgie
is singing "Otche Chornya" and Jack throws away a line that sounds in
part like "for sixteen years."
[KayLhota]
even Meredith Willson's hopeless Italian maestro routine is funny
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[josef]
im back
[Laura
Leff] WB Josef
[Michael]
wb josef
[KayLhota]
hi again Josef
[Brad
from Georgia] Bueno sera!
[Maxwell]
wg josef
[Laura
Leff] Was afraid we scared you off
[ed
kienzler] HE"S BACK!!!
[FrankLhota]
LSMFT Josef
[josef]
thanks. having some computer problems
[Laura
Leff] Josef is no longer Hadyn
[Michael]
he got the lead out (with apologies to Prof LeBlanc)
[Maxwell]
I liked the LS/MFT joke.
[KayLhota]
ouch, Laura
[ed
kienzler] oh LL
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[KayLhota]
Hi Mike
[Brad
from Georgia] Hi, Mike.
[Mike
Amo] Hello again
[Laura
Leff] Hey Mike!
[Maxwell]
Hi Mike
[ed
kienzler] hey mike
[Michael]
Hi Mike
[Mike
Amo] Wow!
[KayLhota]
such a turnout for a summer night?
[Mike
Amo] That's quite a welcoming committee for a wandering gypsy
[Laura
Leff] I like Gracie's line about "if there's two people who look
like they've been roaming the earth for hundreds of years, it's you two."
[Brad
from Georgia] Did anyone catch Jack's line that I referred to? During
George's rendition of "Dark Eyes"?
[ed
kienzler] right kay
[Laura
Leff] Kay - I know, go figure!
[Maxwell]
I didn't catch it.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I heard it but didn't pay it a lot of mind.
[Maxwell]
And I haven't had time to re-listen.
[Michael]
same here
[Laura
Leff] Something like, "Well that set it back sixteen
years."
[Mike
Amo] I played it a month ago, so I don't remember
[KayLhota]
I'll have to give it another listen
[josef]
me too
[Brad
from Georgia] I tried re-listening, but between George and the
audience reaction, I still couldn't clearly understand Jack.
[KayLhota]
was it where Jack Benny was breaking up?
[Brad
from Georgia] He sounded as if he were laughing as he spoke.
[Laura
Leff] Kay - No, Jack says it after George sings Orchi Chornya
[KayLhota]
okay
[Michael]
when Jack is telling Meridith's fortune and he says she looks like.... I never
quite got who she was supposed to look like
[Laura
Leff] Michael - I think they were expecting that line to trail off to
laughter
[Michael]
ok
[Laura
Leff] The only bug I've got about it is there is a serious dependence
on the cheap jokes.
[Maxwell]
But that was counterbalanced by a hefty dose of violin playing.
[Michael]
which cheap jokes do you mean Laura?
[Laura
Leff] Like Jack going back and forth between the exercises and
"Gypsy Violin" all based on money.
[KayLhota]
I thought that was cute
[Brad
from Georgia] Meredith Wilson listened to George and Jack and
thought, "That's not music, man. Hmm....Music Man....Hmmm...I ought to
write a musical! I could call it 'West Side Story!'"
[Michael]
I would think by this time it was what people expected of Jack's Character
[KayLhota]
Funny one, Brad!
[Maxwell]
My punch line would have been "The Unsinkable Molly Brown."
[Laura
Leff] Michael - True, although I know that was also the source of
Jack's complaint about being on other people's shows.
[Brad
from Georgia] Wonder if Jack's writers worked on the show, or if the
writers were Burns's and Allens's.
[Laura
Leff] That they just threw in a lot of cheap jokes and left it at
that.
[josef]
you can kind of tell
[Laura
Leff] Brad - i was wondering that too. George Balzer and Sam Perrin
had worked for Burns and Allen before they came to Jack in 1943.
[KayLhota]
probably the writers of the Band A show, but with George's input
[Michael]
could both sets have worked on it?
[ed
kienzler] yes
[FrankLhota]
Possibly
[Brad
from Georgia] Lots of times when Jack guested, you can tell he didn't
have his own writers...just the run of cheap and standard Jack jokes. Like the
bad joke on the Paar show closing about the toupee.
[Laura
Leff] Michael - Possibly, or at least provided some material.
[Laura Leff] Brad - Yeah, great example.
[Laura
Leff] Two questions for discussion
[Maxwell]
The toupee joke on the B and A show was much better.
[KayLhota]
oh, they would have had Jack from the first reading informing people politely
what would work and what wouldn't
[Mike
Amo] How much impact did they have on their lines if they didn't like
what they were getting?
[Laura
Leff] What's Jack's worst guest appearance elsewhere
[Mike
Amo] lol, ty Kay
[Laura
Leff] What's the best B&A appearance on Jack's show?
[Brad
from Georgia] I have to say it was in "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad,
Mad, Mad, Mad World." There just wasn't enough of Jack.
[KayLhota]
I like this one better than the show from November 1943
[Michael]
I would say the best is the one where we learn just how Jack became stingy
[ed
kienzler] right
[Laura
Leff] Mike - Less on other people's shows than their own (c.f. story
of Groucho on Jack's show)
[Mike
Amo] I suspect it would be something from the 1930s, as they all had
a more loose format then
[KayLhota]
I haven't heard enough of Jack on Burns and Allen
[josef]
I enjoyed Jack's guest appearance on B&A when Gracie decides to hit Jack
over the head so he won't be stingy
[Brad
from Georgia] It's hard to beat George on Jack's TV show when Gracie
doesn't show up and Jack does her role in drag.
[FrankLhota]
How many of you have seen Jack on "Laugh In"?
[Laura
Leff] I have
[ed
kienzler] me
[Mike
Amo] me too
[Michael]
just a few clips
[Maxwell]
Me three.
[Laura
Leff] Keep it moving, Mr. Benny, keep it moving!
[Brad
from Georgia] I did, but can't remember anything other than I saw it.
[Mike
Amo] But it's been a long time
[KayLhota]
I saw it back in 1970 live, and we have the DVD so our son has seen it too
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Are you saying it's Jack's worst guest appearance?
[Mike
Amo] I remember that one, Josef
[FrankLhota]
No, but may be his most unusual.
[Brad
from Georgia] I can remember Arte Johnson's little German soldier
breaking up a surprised Bob Hope with his mournful "Ve vaited for you
effrey Christmas!"
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Hmmm...now there's a challenge...his most unusual...
hmmm...
[Laura
Leff] That would have to be Plan X for me.
[josef]
yeah I thought it was good. I also liked Jack's appearance on B&A's TV show
when they were fighting. Not too many stingy jokes.
[KayLhota]
well, the most unusual has to be His picture as the matador in the Jerry Lewis
movie "Rock-a-Bye Baby"
[Laura
Leff] There's a show with George and Gracie where Gracie thinks
Dennis Day is brilliant. It's really cute.
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[Michael]
Is it me or did it seem like the stingy Jokes seemed to work best on Fred
Allen's Shows?
[KayLhota]
oops
[Laura
Leff] Kay - I think that's a new one on me.
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[Brad
from Georgia] LL--That one sounds like fun!
[KayLhota]
hi back Max
[Maxwell]
Oops
[josef]
Yes, that's a good one too, Laura. Haven't heard it for sometime, though.
[ed
kienzler] hi max
[Laura
Leff] I'm just trying to remember the larger context of the show...
[KayLhota]
Laura, I recently made some screen captures for the movie, so I will send the
pics to you
[Maxwell]
The one I mentioned on the message board that was on TCM this week was pretty
unusual.
[Laura
Leff] Kay - Great! I'll look forward to them.
[KayLhota]
are you familiar with the movie, Laura?
[FrankLhota]
I'm still waiting for Jack to finish the submarine joke.
[Laura
Leff] Kay - No, I'm not a Jerry Lewis fan.
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Har har
[Maxwell]
So now we know LL is NOT French.
[Mike
Amo]
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, we got the "To Be or Not to Be" DVD and I
watched one of the shorts on it--where Jack is tight and climbs a ladder into
the wrong apartment.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - No, but I like Jacques Tati
[Laura
Leff] And Robert Bresson
[KayLhota]
okay-- the plot of the movie is that Marilyn Maxwell is a movie actress who was
secretly married to a matador, and having done it in haste, she tore her
marriage license
[Brad
from Georgia] I thought it was funny that Jack referenced the other
short, "Taxi Troubles," in it--"The last time I got married, a
hack driver performed the ceremony."
[Laura
Leff] Taxi Tangles
[Laura
Leff] aka Cab Waiting
[Brad
from Georgia] Right, Taxi Tangles, sorry.
[KayLhota]
and was widowed and pregnant, which would kill her career
[Laura
Leff] Sounds like Rita Hayworth
[KayLhota]
so, she has Jerry Lewis, her home town boyfriend take care of her triplets
[KayLhota]
while she makes a movie on location, keeping it all secret
[Laura
Leff] Sounds like a rather scandalous movie plot for the time.
[KayLhota]
for Jerry Lewis, it is one of his more tolerable
[Maxwell] Is there such a thing?
[Maxwell]
A tolerable Jerry Lewis movie?
[Mike
Amo] Nutty Professor, which scared me as a kid
[Brad
from Georgia] I can see that on the poster, Kay: Roger Ebert:
"Tolerable!"
[KayLhota]
well, I suppose that is a matter of taste, but I found this one entertaining
[ed
kienzler] several mentions of Laugh-in and jack on youtube
[FrankLhota]
The Bellboy is more than tolerable.
[josef]
I enjoyed Jerry Lewis with Dean, but never really cared for his single movies
[Maxwell]
Mike I'll give you that one. I like it.
[Laura
Leff] So Jack is her matador husband?
[Maxwell]
Martin and Lewis were a much better live act than movie act.
[Brad
from Georgia] Jerry should have teamed with Lou Costello when he
broke up with Martin.
[josef]
true. I enjoy watching their colgate comedy hours
[Laura
Leff] Two comedians? Who's the straight man?
[Maxwell]
Lewis
[ed
kienzler] true
[KayLhota]
yes, Laura. When the newspaper shows the picture, there is no doubt.
[Brad
from Georgia] Umm....Tom Cruise?
[josef]
one of them has Jack on it as a guest.
[KayLhota]
A few strains of "Love In Bloom" on the score, so you can't miss the
joke.
[Laura
Leff] Kay - Gotcha. Go figure...
[KayLhota]
anyway, that cameo wins my vote for most unusual
[FrankLhota]
Tom Cruise and Lou Costello? Which one would be the straight man?
[Laura
Leff] I like a bit of business Jack did on the Flip Wilson show where
they're talking jive to him (Flip and Pearl Bailey) and Jack is trying to go
with it.
[Laura
Leff] Frank - They're about the same height.
[Brad
from Georgia] Tom Cruise says it's him. Straight man! He insists!
[josef]
haven't seen that one, Laura
[Michael]
why does that remind me of the time Don Wilson & the Opera singer are
talking Opera?
[ed
kienzler] flip wilson was funny but his show was not
[Brad
from Georgia] Flip needed better writers. The skits were
heavy-handed, though well acted.
[Laura
Leff] Michael - It's not quite the same...Flip and Pearl are telling
Jack that they think highly of him, but saying it like, "You're far
out" and so on.
[Michael]
ok
[ed
kienzler] they were on TV land a few years ago
[FrankLhota]
I also liked the Marty Feldman bit.
[Laura
Leff] Flip was on one of Jack's specials, sort of standing in for
Rochester.
[josef]
interesting
[Michael]
that sounds like it would be weird
[Laura
Leff] I'd have liked to see Geraldine fill in for Rochester. Or be
Rochester's girlfriend.
[ed
kienzler] very interesting
[Maxwell]
Now cut that out!
[Laura
Leff] Michael - Even more so, i think they were trying to do a take
off on Ironsides, IIRC
[ed
kienzler] watch it mac
[Laura
Leff] I have this recollection of Jack in a wheelchair. But I may be
confusing it.
[Laura
Leff] Need to write more 39 Forever volumes some day and sort it out.
[Michael]
sounds good to me
[Brad
from Georgia] I'd buy it.
[Laura
Leff] So what else about the show for this month?
[Maxwell]
Me too.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Did you get your newsletters?
[Brad
from Georgia] Yes, thank you!
[Laura
Leff] Brad - OK, good. Sorry to have mixed it up before.
[ed
kienzler] ironsides-raymond burr fort laramie
[KayLhota]
I thought it captured George and Jack's musical enthusiasm
[Brad
from Georgia] Haven't read the legal transcript one yet, but I'm
looking forward to it.
[Michael]
I never knew you could get "gold" rings in Cracker Jacks
[KayLhota]
very much in character for their show characters
[Laura
Leff] Yeah, they'd cheapened it to little plastic toys in my day.
[Maxwell]
They had better surprises in Cracker Jack back in the day.
[Michael]
same here
[Brad
from Georgia] I thought the change in the Maxwell House slogan was
funny: "Good to the last drop." "And that's good, too!" Sort
of coffee overkill.
[Laura
Leff] Look mom, I got a star sapphire in my Cracker Jax!
[ed
kienzler] im rich!!!
[Brad
from Georgia] Whut? Why, when I wuz young, we useta get Studebakers
in Cracker Jack!
[Michael]
and what's with the green ears & fingers?
[Brad
from Georgia] Phony gold tarnishes.
[Laura
Leff] A martian?
[Maxwell]
Copper compound.
[josef]
all i remember is a sticker or tattoo in a cracker jack box, and maybe a plastic
ring
[Laura
Leff] Brad - That's only in the extra large box.
[Michael]
thought so
[Brad
from Georgia] Like in "The Searchers": "She don't wear
that necklace you give her much, 'cuz she says it makes her neck turn
green."
[ed
kienzler] tarrishes they showed one on atique roadshows tonight
[FrankLhota]
To avoid choking risks, Cracker Jack now includes only paper prizes.
[Laura
Leff] Frank - You're supposed to play with the toys, not eat them.
[Brad
from Georgia] I thought they didn't have any prizes now. No wonder my
Cracker Jacks have been so chewy lately,
[KayLhota]
good one, Laura
[ed
kienzler] GULP!!!
[Maxwell]
I remember getting stuff like those plastic dealies that would show you two
pictures depending on which angle you held them at.
[Michael]
and when some kid gets a paper cut...... out go the prizes.....
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - I remember those.
[FrankLhota]
What about the original Mr. Potato-head?
[Michael]
me too
[Laura
Leff] Michael -
[josef]
very true, Michael.
[ed
kienzler] a real potatoe
[Maxwell]
Frank, the ones where you actually had to use a potato?
[ed
kienzler] no "e"
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Despite the name, not supposed to eat him either.
[Mike
Amo] poetato
[Brad
from Georgia] There used to be the darndest things in those boxes. I
once got a little white plastic Scottie dog with a magnet in his butt. I always
wondered what it was supposed to do.
[Maxwell]
Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Quayle.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - You beat me to it.
[ed
kienzler] quayle i like rabitt
[Maxwell]
Edgar Allen Poetato.
[Mike
Amo]
[Michael]
perhaps it was part of a set Brad?
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I suppose it could mean he didn't need paper training.
[KayLhota]
groan
[Brad
from Georgia] Michael--probably, but I never got the counterpart.
[Maxwell]
Another box had a magnet on the dog's nose.
[ed
kienzler] ouch again
[Laura
Leff] I've got a dog who has no nose...
[Brad
from Georgia] How does he smell?
[Laura
Leff] Terrible!
[Maxwell]
badoomp boom
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Thanks for being my straightman.
[Michael]
*rimshot*
[ed
kienzler] i have a nose but no dog (cat maybe)
[Brad from Georgia] Und so the Allies tremble.
[Laura
Leff] But seriously folks...
[Maxwell]
Too late for that, Laura
[Brad
from Georgia] My daughter just moved to a new house--whilst she was
walking her new dog, a big stray attacked and scratched her up pretty nastily.
[Laura
Leff] You may have noticed that after years of the same groupings,
I've created a new section on the Forum.
[Maxwell]
Yes!
[Brad
from Georgia] No!
[Michael]
looks like Vaudeville has returned
[Brad
from Georgia] I mean Yes!
[ed
kienzler] she all right?
[Laura
Leff] Michael - It never died here in the chat room.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - yeah, she OK?
[Maxwell]
I saw the reference to the inevitable Hans Conried.
[Brad
from Georgia] ed--Yes, thanks, she wasn't bitten, but the dog jumped
on her legs when she picked up her puppy.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - I was waiting for Kay to see that...
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[Maxwell]
Oops!
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - Did you shoot him?
[ed
kienzler] he's gone !
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[Laura
Leff] Maybe he doesn't like vaudeville.
[Maxwell]
I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot Hans Conried.
[KayLhota]
what was the reference to Hans Conried?
[Brad
from Georgia] Back to the new section. I honestly didn't notice it
today.
[josef]
never know
[Mike
Amo] That would be a cool name for a movie...The Inevitable Hans
Conried
[Laura
Leff] Kay - See the new section of the Forum
[ed
kienzler] who'd play him
[Maxwell]
Hans Conried, of course.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I just did it a couple hours ago...you may not have seen
it.
[ed
kienzler] ouch!!!
[Brad
from Georgia] How about a special section for all the captions I've
suggested over the years that not once have won.....
[KayLhota]
I'll have to do that later, because if I looked for it now, I'd lose the
chatroom
[Laura
Leff] The Insatiable Marquis De Sade
[Laura
Leff] Oops, wrong movie.
[Maxwell]
Kay: Open a different window.
[Maxwell]
Then you won't lose the chatroom.
[KayLhota]
oh, that might work!
[Maxwell]
It does.
Maxwell
does it all the time.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - They're all still out there. Somewhere. Though.
Michael
should have thought of that
Laura
Leff
waits breathlessly for Kay to see the new Forum section.
[Laura
Leff] Seems we all are
[KayLhota]
where is the new forum section?
[Maxwell]
At the bottom.
[Laura
Leff] At the bottom of the forum listing
[KayLhota]
at the bottom?
[Laura
Leff] Look for "Other stuff we like"
[Maxwell]
at the bottom.
[Michael]
I'm not seeing it
[Laura
Leff] Where the magnet is
[ed
kienzler] a funny thing happened on the way to the Forum
[KayLhota]
all that does if put me in the chatroom
[Laura
Leff] Log into the forum, then look at the listing
[Brad
from Georgia] 'Tain't there for me.
[KayLhota]
brilliant one ed
[ed
kienzler] thanx...
[Maxwell]
Brad Clear your cookies.
[Michael]
me either Brad
[Laura
Leff] Forum -> Bulletin Board -> Log in
[Laura
Leff] Brad Toss your cookies
[josef]
ok
[Laura
Leff] Group tech support
[ed
kienzler] bake those cookies
[Brad
from Georgia] Just tried. "Contact Us" is still at the
bottom.
[Maxwell]
If they're chocolate chip, I want one.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Not that far down. Under Jack Benny today
[Maxwell]
Look in the menu for the forum.
[Laura
Leff] If they're tossed, I'll pass.
[KayLhota]
oh that is funny, Laura
[Maxwell]
Not below it.
[FrankLhota]
Aneheim -> Asusa -> Cucamonga
[ed
kienzler] raisin spice ummmm
[Maxwell]
Oatmeal raisin....
Michael
will check it out l8r
[KayLhota]
I'll gladly offer up a post for the enevitable Hans Conried
[Maxwell]
Or peanut butter!
[Laura
Leff] Kay - In the words of Mr. Rogers, "I knew you would."
[ed
kienzler] girls scouts thin mints
[Brad
from Georgia] Got it. I didn't open the Forum. Funny thing happened
to me....
[KayLhota]
I blush, but accept this fact gracefully.
[Maxwell]
You met Zero Mostel?
[Laura
Leff] So anyhow, I figured that we always like talking about
non-Benny things here in the chat
[ed
kienzler] zero my hero
[Laura
Leff] so I'd make a place where you can talk about them any time.
[Brad
from Georgia] Isn't Zero Mostel that lo-cal Jewish wine?
[ed
kienzler] phil silvers was in the movie version
[Brad
from Georgia] And Buster Keaton.
[Laura
Leff] I'm loving "Upstairs Downstairs" right now and would
probably share it.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - That's Zero Manischevivivitz
[Brad
from Georgia] If our college ever does "Forum" again, I'm
trying out for the Buster Keaton role.
[Maxwell]
Was that Keaton's last movie?
[ed
kienzler] yes
[Maxwell]
You want to run around the seven hills of Rome?
[Brad
from Georgia] Maxwell--yes. They actually used a double in some long
shots because Keaton was too ill.
[ed
kienzler] i think so
[FrankLhota]
"war Italian Style"
[Laura
Leff] Haven't seen it.
[Maxwell]
Yeah, he had lung cancer, I think.
[Brad
from Georgia] How many geese in a gaggle?
[Laura
Leff] He was a smoker.
[KayLhota]
seven
[Brad
from Georgia] Keaton died from lung cancer, but they never told him
he had it.
[ed
kienzler] how many gaggle into a geese
[KayLhota]
wasn't it seven to a gaggle of geese?
[Laura
Leff] Depends on how big the goose's throat is.
[FrankLhota]
A gaggle is a google of geese.
[Brad
from Georgia] A gag to giggle a goose.
[ed
kienzler] AFLAC!!!
[Brad
from Georgia] "Love likes a gander, and adores a goose."
[Laura
Leff] A gag to goose a giggle
[Laura
Leff] Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
[KayLhota]
old one, but I love it
[Maxwell]
A gaggle of geese were playing this gig....
[ed
kienzler] giggle a goose into a gaggle and watch the tail wiggle
[ed
kienzler] waggle
[Brad
from Georgia] The Quing and the Keen were quirling at quoits at a
meadow behind of the mere...
[KayLhota]
though mainly the meadow was middled with moe
[Laura
Leff] Wow...I think I lost track of where we are...the air is so thin
here...
[KayLhota]
an hirectical hitherto hear
[Michael]
I think I'm heading off to Allen's Alley now
[Brad
from Georgia] Yay, Kay! Dogbone it, I think I love you!
[KayLhota]
bowing to Brad
[ed
kienzler] is that yogi really says on the AFLAC commercial
[Laura
Leff] Careful Brad, her husband is here.
[Brad
from Georgia] I loves him, too.
[Maxwell]
Watch it Brad. Frank's here.
[Mike
Amo] Brad, was reading back...they never told him
[Laura
Leff] What is that, Naked Lunch?
[Maxwell]
For once you beat me, Ms. Leff....
[Brad
from Georgia] Nah, Pogo.
[Brad
from Georgia] Unadulterated sheer Walt Kelly.
[ed
kienzler] pogo stick?
[Laura
Leff] Aha...makes sense.
[KayLhota]
As main go oh so Pogo go Key Largo
[Brad
from Georgia] Pogo the Possum. "We have met the enemy an' he is
us."
[ed
kienzler] in to fargo
[Maxwell]
I miss Pogo.
[KayLhota]
I was just begining to get it when he died
[ed kienzler] or henry who never spoke
[Maxwell]
I don't miss Nancy and Sluggo.
[Brad
from Georgia] "Oh, MAM-ie minded Mama, 'til one day in
Singapore...a sailor MAN from TurkeSTAN come knockin' at the door..."
[Maxwell]
I do miss Aunt Fritzie.
[Laura
Leff] I read some of the late Pogos, and it reminded me of the
comment about Wagner's music: "It's much better than it sounds."
[KayLhota]
brilliant!
[Laura
Leff] I think it must have been better earlier on.
[ed
kienzler] who was the nancy's drawer other than ernir?
[Brad
from Georgia] We still get Nancy in our local paper. Fritzi has
become a music journalist covering country-western stars. In a nice way, I mean.
[ed
kienzler] some guy named plasmino
[Laura
Leff] Or Nancy Drew, for that matter.
[KayLhota]
Jerry Scott did it for a while
[Maxwell]
Nancy drew what?
[Brad
from Georgia] Now, now, a gentleman don't discuss Nancy's drawers.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Sounds like the X-Men.
[ed
kienzler] nancy drew herself in a dvd movie
[KayLhota]
Frank and I are both blanking on the guy's last name
[Laura
Leff] Magneto's sidekick Plasmino
[Maxwell]
Nanchy drew herself a bath.
[Maxwell]
Or Nancy
[FrankLhota]
rest
[ed
kienzler] a bad dvd flick
[FrankLhota]
His name was Gilcrest
[ed
kienzler] ryan
[KayLhota]
Guy Gilcrest
[ed
kienzler] oh seacrest
[Laura
Leff] Gasoline Alley
[ed
kienzler] hey great comic and radio show
[Brad
from Georgia] Guy and Brad Gilchrist (spelling counts) are now
responsible for Nancy.
[Laura
Leff] I just said that to see if anyone went anywhere with it.
[Maxwell]
Ah! A before and after for Wheel of Fortune: Gasoline Alley Oop!
[KayLhota]
thank you Brad
[Michael]
am running a little late so goodnight folks...... see you all next month
hopefully
User
Michael has logged out.
[ed
kienzler] bye mike...
[KayLhota]
wow, that was a fast getaway
[Laura
Leff] Bye *SLAM*
[Brad
from Georgia] The strip "Nancy" has changed very little.
Same jokes for many years, like "Blondie."
[Maxwell]
Are we on the third or fourth generation of Youngs yet drawing Blondie/
[Maxwell]
?
[ed
kienzler] blondie/dagwood 78 years and still strong
[KayLhota]
that can happen over 80 years
[Brad
from Georgia] Dunno. I wonder where Dagwood gets them shirts with jes'
one button in the middle.
[Laura
Leff] There's a mindblowing Tijuana Bible of Blondie that you'd swear
was drawn by Gig Young himself.
[FrankLhota]
Before Gilcrest, they had an artist who tried to re-design Nancy, but it didn't
work.
[Brad
from Georgia] Chick Young, Laura.
[ed
kienzler] a sewing shop
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Thank you.
[Brad
from Georgia] No problemo.
[Maxwell]
Yeah, after Ernie Bushmiller died, Nancy's looks went to pot.
[Brad
from Georgia] Actually, Chic Young. Spelling counts.....
[KayLhota]
yes, she looked too much like Bosko the Talkink Kid as a girl
[Brad
from Georgia] Maxwell--after Bushmiller died, her artist went to
pot.....
[Laura
Leff] Brad - OK, that's why I did the crossover. Soundalike with the
same letter on the front and back (Chic vs. Gig)
[ed
kienzler] a story of their (Blondie) 75th anniversary mentions no
radio show at all
[Brad
from Georgia] I always mix up Gig Young and....some other actor.
[Brad
from Georgia] Not Roland Young...
[Laura
Leff] Ed - What about the movies?
[Maxwell]
Or as Mad Magazine had in a parody of comic strips (at the start of Blondie):
"Blondie...who's no young chick."
[Laura
Leff] Barbie isn't either, and has the same build.
[ed
kienzler] they mention movies and TV but no OTR
[Brad
from Georgia] Wonder if Dagwood's parents have died yet? They were
rich.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - That's a shame.
[ed
kienzler] they still diown him
[Brad
from Georgia] OTR don't get no respect.
[Maxwell]
Mr. Dithers must be about 150 years old by now.
[Laura
Leff] Just like Rodney Dangerfield.
[josef]
thats true brad
[FrankLhota]
Mr. Dithers is now a cyborg.
[KayLhota]
ouch, Frank
[ed
kienzler] i have the copy from sept 2005 of the news article of it
[Maxwell]
People who wrote the article probably think radio was always the way it is now.
[Laura
Leff] Blondie meets the Jetsons
[josef]
My thing is I wish more people my age knew about otr. Got my roommate in college
into Jack Benny, though
[KayLhota]
well, they both featured Penny Singleton
[ed
kienzler] true LL
[Brad
from Georgia] True story: in grad school, I had to do a paper on
William Faulkner. I tracked the doctor in Yoknapatawpha County through a dozen
novels and about twenty short stories, and discovered he was still in practice
at the age of 142.
[Maxwell]
How about Arthur Lake?
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - Like shows I've seen on standup comedy where everyone
asserts it was invented by Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce.
[ed
kienzler] Penny Singleton
[FrankLhota]
Mel Blanc could voice Mr. Dithers using the Maxwell noises.
[KayLhota]
dying, Frank!
[Maxwell]
Frank So true!
[Laura
Leff] Josef - Actually, Sirius radio is a good source for exposing
people to it.
[josef]
okay, thanx
[Maxwell]
LL or people who think jazz was invented by Miles Davis in 1960.
[ed
kienzler] except they cut out the commercials something i think is
important to OTR
[Brad
from Georgia] Maybe we could get the rights and do a modern version
of "Blondie" for Sirius Radio. We could get Eddie Carroll to do Mr.
Dithers.
[KayLhota]
especially to the Jack Benny show
[Maxwell]
I love old radio commercials.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - Yes, very true.
[josef]
it was funny my roommate had no idea who Jack was, and I started playing his
shows at night while i studied. he liked it.
[FrankLhota]
Sirius and internet radio is great for specialty markets such as OTR.
[ed
kienzler] what is ma perkins without oxydol?
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Dirty.
[ed
kienzler] LL OUCH
[josef]
that's tru, Frank. I found out about OTR from my dad, got curious, went onlines,
and found a bunch of stuff.
Laura
Leff
is snickering
[Maxwell]
What I like about Jack's shows is that they're easy to introduce newbies to OTR
because there is so much timeless humor and so little topical humor.
[Brad
from Georgia] My daughter caught the Jack Benny bug by seeing Eddie
in "Laughter in Bloom." Now she's got about a dozen CDs of Jack's
radio shows.
[Mike
Amo] Sorry, lots happening here and not able to look in much...is OTR
on Sirius?
[Laura
Leff] Mike - Sure is!
[ed
kienzler] yes
[Maxwell]
Ma Perkins w/o Oxydol is: "----------'s own Ma Perkins."
[josef]
Very true, Max.
[FrankLhota]
Internet radio has something for all tastes. Where else can you find a 24 hour
polka channel?
[Mike
Amo] Cool
[Laura
Leff] Frank - And who's want to...
[ed
kienzler] larry welk 24 hours a day
[Laura
Leff] who'd want to...
[Maxwell]
Where would you want to find a 24-hour polka channel?
[Brad
from Georgia] Frank, there's one on TV--oh, oh, I thought you said
24-hour POKER channel.
[Laura
Leff] All Welk, all the time.
[ed
kienzler] ha
[Maxwell]
I liked Welk's appearance with Jack.
[KayLhota]
spew!
[Brad
from Georgia] Wunnaful, wunnaful.
[FrankLhota]
I'm forever blowing bubbles...
[ed
kienzler] myron on the accordian
[KayLhota]
I came that close to wetting my computer.
[Brad from Georgia] "Open it yourself, I'm sick of bubbles."
[Maxwell]
Hey! You can't totally knock Welk...he employed guys like Dick Cathcart, Peanuts
Hucko, Pete Fountain, and Bob Havens.
[ed
kienzler] dick cathcart pete kelly's blues
[Laura
Leff] Not to mention Bobby and Sissy when they were too old to be
Mouseketeers.
[Maxwell]
ed Dat's da one!
[Brad
from Georgia] "Thank-a you, thank-a you. And now somethin' a
little new. We gonna get-a down, get-a funky."
[ed
kienzler] he also appeared on a 1953 dragnet movie
[Maxwell]
LL That was Barbara Boylin (Boylen?)
[Laura
Leff] Whenever they yell, "Get down!" on a Doctor Who
(seemingly mostly in Jon Pertwee's tenure)
[Maxwell]
At least post Mouseketeer.
[Brad
from Georgia] "We just-a want-a the bubbles, ma'am. Just-a the
bubbles."
[FrankLhota]
Search YouTube for Laurence Welk as a hippie.
[KayLhota]
can I interupt with what program will we listen to next month?
[Laura
Leff] we always start laughing because we envision all the actors
starting to groove and some seventies wow-wow jive music playing
[ed
kienzler] brad BAD!!!
[Maxwell]
There is a great tape of Dick Dale and some gal named Gail, singing One Toke
Over the Line.
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Oh my...got to not go for the mental image...
[Laura
Leff] Kay - Go for it
[Brad
from Georgia] "This is-a the city. It's got two major precincts.
A-one, a-two...."
[Laura
Leff] Ms Rand, just hand over the bubble.
[Maxwell]
Introduced by Myron Floren and Welk calling it a "modern spiritual."
[KayLhota]
we have to keep with the guest shots.
[KayLhota]
There are his appearances on Screen Guild
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - Maybe they were confusing drugs with alcohol in
"spiritual"
[Brad
from Georgia] Preferably one like this weeks, not just a brief
walk-on.
[FrankLhota]
One has to wonder if they knew what "One toke..." was about. Otherwise
they'd follow up with "Afternoon delight"
[KayLhota]
Lux Radio, and Ford Theater
[Maxwell]
Gail Farrell.
[Brad
from Georgia] I thought "Afternoon Delight" was about that
Turkish sticky candy.
[Maxwell]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg
[ed
kienzler] or sunrise serande
[Laura
Leff] Or Midnight at the Oasis
[ed
kienzler] woops wrong spelling
[FrankLhota]
And the song "I need a new drug" was about Serutan.
[ed
kienzler] hunt and pick that's me
[Brad
from Georgia] When I was a kid, I used to get up and watch
"Sunrise Semester." I thunk it would make me smart.
[KayLhota]
ouch, Frank!
[Laura
Leff] Or Yhtapmys
[ed
kienzler] i remen
[Mike
Amo] Me 2 Brad,
[ed
kienzler] iremember sunrise semester
[Mike
Amo] I also watched a great show called Test Pattern every morning
[Laura
Leff] Kay - OK, let me take a look at what I've got.
[Brad
from Georgia] At least I learned how to pronounce the names of the
Greek gods.
[Maxwell]
I loved Test Pattern!
[Laura
Leff] Cheech: What are you watching man?
[FrankLhota]
When is "Test Pattern" coming to DVD?
[ed
kienzler] or the indian in the corner
[Laura
Leff] Chong: It's a movie about an Indian, but it's really, really
boring.
[Brad
from Georgia] M. Night Shyamalan directs "The Test
Pattern." In a surprise ending, the Indian turns around.
[Mike
Amo] ty LL
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Har har
[Brad
from Georgia] That was a rerun from last month's chat.
[Laura
Leff] BRB
[KayLhota]
There is the Orson Welles Campbell's program
[ed
kienzler] why did they pick an indian for the test pattern anyway?
[Brad
from Georgia] Campbell's will serve no soup before its time.
[Maxwell]
It was made in Cleveland?
[ed
kienzler] it's like bob and tom's time channel skit
[KayLhota]
I was blanking on the name. "June Moon"
[Brad
from Georgia] Ed--Actually, it was Iron Eyes Cody who posed for the
test pattern, and it turned out he was Italian.
[Brad
from Georgia] Kay--Yes, "June Moon"
[KayLhota]
wow, Brad!
[FrankLhota]
Paprika, Paprika, the spice of my life!
[ed
kienzler] oh i thought he was in the final credits
[Maxwell]
Brad Oh, the irony
[Laura
Leff] "I see dead Indians"
[KayLhota]
Frank! You're reading my mind!
[KayLhota]
I guess this is what happens to old married couples!
[FrankLhota]
No, I goggled your mind.
[Laura
Leff] Didn't we do June Moon a year or two ago?
[Brad
from Georgia] Cody kept his secret to the day he died, more or less.
His relatives were all from Louisiana, and they spilled the beans after he
passed away.
[KayLhota]
Yes, I would say you did.
[KayLhota]
Yes, Laura. I knew it rang a bell.
[ed
kienzler] ding dong
[KayLhota]
So, "June Moon" is out.
[KayLhota]
There are plenty of other programs.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Was he the Indian who crashed Nixon's viewing on CSpan?
[Mike Amo] More coolness, ty Brad
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--don't think so. You'll remember him as the Indian
who surveys litter beside the road and weeps a single tear.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - No, same guy.
[ed
kienzler] yes
[Mike
Amo] And from many Clint Eastwood movies
[KayLhota]
How about Jack Benny on Groucho's Pabst program?
[Brad
from Georgia] Okay, I stand corrected. Nice to know!
[Laura
Leff] Supposedly, IIRC, Cspan was showing, I think Nixon lying in
state
[Maxwell]
Didn't we do that one a year or two ago?
[KayLhota]
did we?
[Maxwell]
Or did I just listen to it on my own?
[KayLhota]
I don't remember ever discussing it in a chat.
[Maxwell]
Oh! Maybe Chuck Schaden played it! I think that's it.
[Laura
Leff] And then this guy comes over to the camera and says who he is,
and then starts doing some kind of dance before he's hustled off hastily by
security guards.
[FrankLhota]
Nixon and Jack Benny only have one connection: "Laugh In"
[Maxwell]
Maybe that was Ronnie "Woo Woo" Wickers.
[Brad
from Georgia] August is political convention time. Any guest shots
with politics/politicians as part of the theme?
[ed
kienzler] that is correct
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Well, Jack voted for Nixon.
[Brad
from Georgia] LL-Nobody's perfect.
[ed
kienzler] godd one
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Makes me think of the Friar's roast with Adlai
Stevenson.
[Maxwell]
So did my in-laws.
[ed
kienzler] woops again
[FrankLhota]
Nixon should have returned the favor by making Jack the scretary of Treasury.
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, yeah. Man, that Adlai was one hilarious dude. (that
was ironical)
[KayLhota]
old joke, Frank
[Laura
Leff] August is also Olympics month. I can post the show where Jack
has an Asian planting rice in the shallow end of his pool.
[Brad
from Georgia] Frank--Reagan did that in "Back to the
Future."
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Actually, he was. I've got a book of his quotables.
[Laura
Leff] The way of the egghead is hard.
[Maxwell]
LL That cracked me up!
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--I know he was very witty. But then he ran against
Eisenhower, who had the unbeatable slogan.
[Laura
Leff] yeah, yolks on you...
[FrankLhota]
Alice Cooper also voted for Nixon, but I'm not sure where he'd fit into the
cabinet.
[Laura
Leff] I like Ike - Hooray for Adlai
[ed
kienzler] or if he remembered
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Head of ATF
[ed
kienzler] ALF
[Brad
from Georgia] Just as McCain does today, Eisenhower toured the
states...but on a three-wheeler. "I Like Ike's Trike Bike." Couldn't
beat that.
[ed
kienzler] ?
[Maxwell]
One of my first memories of a national convention is Eleanor Roosevelt
nominating Stevenson at the 1960 Democratic Convention.
[Laura
Leff] Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
[FrankLhota]
Head of BATF? Naw, that position should go to Ted Nugent.
[Laura
Leff] 1960?
[ed
kienzler] i know that
[Maxwell]
Yup. He lost.
[Brad
from Georgia] I sort of remember the Pope nominating Teddy Roosevelt
at the Republican convention held on the bottom of the sea. But I'm kinda old.
[Laura
Leff] Stevenson ran against Kennedy?
[ed
kienzler] Mclean?
[FrankLhota]
In the primaries
[Maxwell]
I think he had like 5 delegates.
[Laura
Leff] No kidding.
[Laura
Leff] Talk about sticktuitiveness
[Laura
Leff] Adlai Stevenson said "Don't give up the ship"
[FrankLhota]
Can I still vote for Harold Stassen?
[ed
kienzler] the titanic
[ed
kienzler] you bet
[Maxwell]
Adlai said on his deathbed, "Don't ever let McLean get his own TV
series."
[Laura
Leff] I liked the entry for "In my day" some years back...
[Maxwell]
Too bad he didn't pay attention.
[Laura
Leff] "In my day, we didn't have Strom Thurmond!...Oh wait a
minute, yes we did."
[ed
kienzler] at least twice
[Laura
Leff] So what else Benny-wise is on folks minds?
[ed kienzler] Strom?
Laura
Leff
hears crickets
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--I'm blanking on that short on the "To Be or
Not to Be" DVD--where Jack is the intoxicated fellow climbing into the
wrong apartment. Remember it?
[Maxwell]
*chirp chirp*
[KayLhota]
I'm still trying to come up with an idea for next month's show
[Mike
Amo] My 190-mile pending drive is on my mind
[Laura
Leff] Brad - You know, I've been meaning to see that. Um...we've got
the script on the Web site
[Brad
from Georgia] Mike--I'd be thinking about gasoline in yur place.
[Laura
Leff] Let's see if I can get it without losing the chat
[KayLhota]
I have the DVD and I have seen the short
[Mike
Amo] Nahh, filled the tank last night for only $69
[josef]
Yeah, I need to pick up To be or not to Be and actually watch it.
[KayLhota]
it's a snooze being early sound
[Laura
Leff] The Rounder
[KayLhota]
yes, you need to see "To Be or Not to Be"
[FrankLhota]
You should have bought only one gallon.
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--It was very unBennylike in many ways, more like
something written by P.G. Wodehouse. Jack a young sport, boozing it up--right,
the Rounder!
[josef]
I've seen a clip from it a while ago.
[KayLhota]
"The Medicine Man" is un-Benny like
[Mike
Amo] I need to pack some Jack Have all the audio tapes
[Maxwell]
Sounds kind of like an event from the life of Buster Keaton.
[Laura
Leff] I read the script and had a pretty good idea of what it
probably looked like.
[Brad
from Georgia] He climbs into a single woman's apartment by
mistake...it happens she needs a husband for business purposes, and she offers
Jack a job as her "show husband" for five hundred a month.
[Laura
Leff] I'm actually rather fond of "Broadway Romeo"
[Brad
from Georgia] He holds out for five-fifty, but he starts feeling
tender toward her and helps save her from making a big mistake.
[Laura
Leff] *sound of Gypsy Violin playing*
[Laura
Leff] Sounds almost like something better suited to Charley Chase.
[KayLhota]
good one, Laura
[Brad
from Georgia] It's funny early Benny...with little flashes of Jack's
later character. He's so suave, though, in a dimwitted way, like Bertie Wooster.
[ed
kienzler] or a CHARITY CASE
[Maxwell]
That DOES sound Charley Chase-like
[josef]
I really enjoyed this month's show
[Laura
Leff] Oh side comment...at the UK dinner, someone mentioned the name
of Steve Stoliar
[Brad
from Georgia] I did, too. Good balance of Jack, George, and Gracie.
[Maxwell]
Hmmm...Jack as Bertie, Rochester as Jeeves....
[KayLhota]
oh yes, he worked for Grouch Marx
[Laura
Leff] And absolutely everyone at the table, with the exception of Dan
who gets a by, knew exactly who he was.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - That could be cute.
[Laura
Leff] It's just fun to be among people who know who Charley Chase is,
or Steve Stoliar, etc.
[Brad
from Georgia] He wrote a Peanuts special, didn't he?
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Who?
[KayLhota]
we're quite the group, aren't we, Laura?
[Maxwell]
When I was a kid, there was a guy on local TV named Johnny Coons. He used to
show silent Charley Chase comedies.
[Laura
Leff] Kay - Sho nuff!
[Brad
from Georgia] Steve Stoliar. Or is he the one who wrote the book
"Inside Groucho's House" or some such?
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - He couldn't go on air with that name any more.
[KayLhota]
Yes, Steve.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Raised Eyebrows
[Maxwell]
That was his real name.
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell - I can still see someone strongarming him into
changing it.
[Brad
from Georgia] Right! I read that. Sad.
[Maxwell]
Trivia: What name did Charlie Chase use as an alias when directing?
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I keep wanting to read it, just have a big pile of
reading to finish first.
[FrankLhota]
Charles Parrot
[Maxwell]
*dingdingdingding*
[Laura
Leff] Maxwell: Allen Smithee?
[Maxwell]
His brother also used the name Parrot when directing, too.
[Mike
Amo] I own an Alan Smithee movie
[KayLhota]
Charles Parrot was his real name
[Brad
from Georgia] Alan Smithee reviews movies for the Atlanta Journal
Constitution. He gives prizes to people who ask him stumper questions. I won a
pair of Speedos.
[Laura
Leff] Mike - Which one?
[josef]
yeah
[Laura
Leff] Brad - What was the question?
[Mike
Amo] I can't remember the name, but it was one in which Jon Cryer was
in Washington, DC, I think as some kind of lower budget Ferris Bueller
[Brad
from Georgia] I asked him what scenes, in what order, did Orson
Welles use from four Shakespeare plays in writing "Chimes at
Midnight."
[Mike
Amo] Brad
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Dang
[Brad
from Georgia] The speedos were from that movie "The Life
Aquatic." My wife doesn't like for me to wear them.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - You know, I wasn't going to go there.
[Brad
from Georgia] Especially while mowing the lawn.
[Mike
Amo] It actually was good, so I was surprised the Director was Alan
Smithee
[Maxwell]
If they're size 56, I'll take them off your hands.
[Brad
from Georgia] Maxwell--They weren't. At first. Before I tried them
on.
[Laura
Leff] The Life Aquatic. Was it a Jacques Cousteau movie?
[Maxwell]
It's the biography of Aquaman.
[KayLhota]
good one, Laura
[Brad
from Georgia] LL-a take-off on Jacques Cousteau, I think. Didn't see
it.
[Laura
Leff] Is Aquaman still alive?
[Maxwell]
Jacque Clousseau: Underwater Detective
[Brad
from Georgia] I can imagine it: "Ze sea. She is the muzzair of
us all. So beeg. So blue. And most of all...wet."
[Mike
Amo] On Craig Ferguson's show, he is
[Brad
from Georgia] Wasn't there a porn actress named Cousteau? I think I
met her once.
[Laura
Leff] I presume Space Ghost: Coast to Coast is no longer on...
[FrankLhota]
No new "Space Ghost..." episodes have been done for years.
[Maxwell]
Brad You may be right about that.
[Laura
Leff] My, we've strayed a long way from Jack Benny.
[josef]
sure have
[Laura
Leff] OK, let's connect the circle...
[Mike
Amo] Was Jack ever on Space Ghost?
[Brad
from Georgia] It was at a convention. She looked so scrubbed and
freckled and all. I was really surprised later when someone asked, "Do you
know what she does for a living?" and told me.
[Maxwell]
Desiree Couteau
[Laura
Leff] If Jack were to encounter a superhero, who would it be?
[josef]
I think.....
[Brad
from Georgia] Max--Yes! That was her. I would not have pegged
her....um, let me rephrase that. I was surprised at her way of making a living.
[FrankLhota]
No, but Steve Allen did Space Ghost, and Brak did the last "Man on the
Street" interview.
[Maxwell]
[Brad
from Georgia] LL--Treasuryman!
[Laura
Leff] Frank - Oh, that must have been good...
[ed
kienzler] wow
[Mike
Amo] He might meet with Bruce Wayne to find out why he lives such a
free-spending lifestyle
[Maxwell]
I googled her.
[Maxwell]
Er...did a search for her.
[josef]
If jack Benny encountered a superhero, it would be the flash. he could give him
a run for his money.
[Mike
Amo] lolmFrank
[Laura
Leff] I'm trying to come up with something like Batman needing to try
to break into Jack's vault
[Mike
Amo] -m
[Brad
from Georgia] Or The Guardian. "Don't worry, I'll save you--why,
hello, Mr. Benny." "Ed!" "Shh. That's my secret
identity."
[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh, that's good!
[FrankLhota]
Did Steve Allen ever do radio?
[KayLhota]
yes he did, Frank
[ed
kienzler] hey i hear my name being use in vain sort of
[Laura
Leff] Would seem like Jack and Superman would go together because
they're contemporaries
[Maxwell]
Frank Yes, he did.
[Laura
Leff] Jack is mentioned in a more recent Superman comic
[josef]
that's true, Laura. Or Jack and the Shadow.
[Maxwell]
He'd need the Green Lantern to see his way down to the vault.
[josef]
which one, Laura?
[Laura
Leff] Is the Shadow really a superhero?
[Maxwell]
He had the power to cloud men's minds....
[josef]
now that I think of it, no.
[Maxwell]
Does that make him super?
[Laura
Leff] Josef - It's one of the alternate history ones. Dan knows more
about it than I do.
[josef]
ok
[Brad
from Georgia] "Only one thing can weaken me, Mr. Benny.
Kryptonite." "Hmmm. I'm sort of that way. But the thing that weakens
me is ___" (It's the Match Game!)
[FrankLhota]
The first superhero was "The Scarlet Pimpernel"
[Laura
Leff] spending
[Maxwell]
Is he here, or is he there?
[ed
kienzler] scarlett pumpernickel?
[Brad
from Georgia] Ith getting tho you have to KILL yourthelf in thith
town to thell a movie.
[Maxwell]
Pumpernicket isn't scarlett unless it has ketchup on it.
[Laura
Leff] Am I the only one going for the Match Game?
[ed
kienzler] daffy duck
[Mike
Amo] Well, Jack was the Whistler
[Brad
from Georgia] No, the Fiddler.
[ed
kienzler] the fiddler
[Mike
Amo] Yes <insert cheesy grin>
[Laura
Leff] Maybe the Flash grabs Jack's violin and runs off with it
[ed
kienzler] a great skit
[FrankLhota]
The NAB does not like the original ending of "The Scarlet Puppernickel"
[Laura
Leff] Mary slaps down Wonder Woman
[Brad
from Georgia] Jack could be a hero: The Walking Man. "What seems
to be the trouble here?" "Huh? Oh, that was hours ago, it's all over.
Where were you?" "Well....it's a long way."
[Maxwell]
Neither does the NBA.
[ed
kienzler] or the cba nfl or afl
[josef]
yeazh, maybe prof. LeBlanc paid the flash to steal Benny's violin and the money
Jack owes him.
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, I liked Mel's bit on tonight's show! Meant to say
that, didn't. Mea culpa.
[Laura
Leff] The guy turns into The Hulk because he's sick of Jack's violin
practicing.
[Laura
Leff] Mel's got a couple parts on tonight's show.
[josef]
yeah that'd be great.
[Brad
from Georgia] "Hulk CONDUCT!"
[FrankLhota]
The NAB objected to "The Untouchables" because of the voilence, and
"The Jack Benny Show" because of the violins.
[KayLhota]
good one, Frank
[ed
kienzler] OH boy
[Laura
Leff] Wah wah wah wahhhhhhhh
[ed
kienzler] rimshot
[Laura
Leff] There is a very cute TV episode where Jack gets arrested for
playing the violin to cure his insomnia.
[Maxwell]
In the words of Go-Go Dodo: "Lame puns are pound for pound your best
entertainment value."
[ed
kienzler] actually jack was pretty good a playing am i right LL?
[Maxwell]
Good enough to play in a theater orchestra.
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Well, that dependds on your yardstick of playing.
[Laura
Leff] I asked Isaac Stern that over breakfast once...
[Brad
from Georgia] "I has nothin' but scorn for them dirty
politicians! Cheap scorn!" "Okay, Mister--how much a ear?"
Laura
Leff
shameless drops names
[Maxwell]
Was he able to hold it down?
[FrankLhota]
Yup, but playing a bad violinist was funnier.
[ed
kienzler] well not the pphiladelphia philharmonic'
[Laura
Leff] Stern confirmed that "what you saw is what you got"
with Jack. He wasn't a concert violinist--not a serious one.
[ed
kienzler] and he played for charities
[Laura
Leff] There's a great bit he does with David Frost about how he can
"cheat" with the violin
[Brad
from Georgia] Is there a record of the orchestras for which Jack did
benefits? I have a reason of my own for trying to track down the date of one.
[Maxwell]
So as I said, good enough to play in a theater orchestra.
[Laura
Leff] and make it sound better than he really is.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - I've got a listing of a lot of them.
[Brad
from Georgia] I can't remember if this one was in Baltimore or
Boston, but I think it was one or the other of those.
[Laura
Leff] He was better than you or I would be just picking up the violin
and playing it.
[ed
kienzler] true ll
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Got a year? Or a place?
[Laura
Leff] Ed - Does that answer your question?
[ed
kienzler] sure does
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Or someone from the same bill?
[ed
kienzler] he was on a welk show once
[Laura
Leff] I've got to see that Welk show one of these days.
[Brad
from Georgia] LL-No, sorry, unless I can locate my friend from
fifteen years ago to tell me! I'm guessing it would be 1963-1970 or thereabouts.
[Laura
Leff] OK, let me see what I've got. Baltimore or Boston.
[Laura
Leff] BRB
[ed kienzler] check out PBS maybe it will hit your area LL
[Laura
Leff] Oh I think we've got it in the video library. Just not enough
hours in the day.
[Brad
from Georgia] I finally got my Hirschfeld print and my Jack Benny
autograph matted and framed. Looks very cool.
[Laura
Leff] Baltimore Merriwether Post Pavillion 1971
[Laura
Leff] That's all I've got so far for Baltimore, except for 1935
[Brad
from Georgia] LL-Yes, that must be it! I'm going to track down Butch
and ask him to tell me the whole story again (he was a very junior member of the
orchestra).
[Brad
from Georgia] Maybe he'll give me permission to do a little piece for
the JBT.
[Laura
Leff] Oddly enough, all my Boston listings are 1955 or earlier.
[Laura
Leff] But it's by no means a complete list.
[Laura
Leff] August 9-14-1971
[Maxwell]
Benny on the Welk show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg
[KayLhota]
I can't help you. I don't have early Boston lists
[Maxwell]
Oops...no longer available.
[Brad
from Georgia] I can vividly remember Butch's story about the
fried-egg sandwich, but I know he must have told me more about Jack. He did say
that Jack looked frail at first, but when the spotlight hit him he was a trouper
and magically became thirty years younger!
[Laura
Leff] With Henry Mancini
[Mike
Amo] I thought Jack was fine...his bits with Giselle MacKenzie are
priceless
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[Brad
from Georgia] Yes, that must be the one!
User
josef has entered this room.
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Yes, that's a familiar refrain!
[Laura
Leff] Brad - Hey, glad to be of service.
[Mike
Amo] Jack played at Merriweather? @#$% Too many years too soon...that
was close
[Laura
Leff] I was putting together that list from Jack's files of his
concert appearances.
[Laura
Leff] I even got a list of the commitments he had that had to be
cancelled due to his illness.
[Laura
Leff] Just need to put it into the database so it's organized. Some
day. When I have lots of time.
[Laura
Leff] yeah right
[Brad
from Georgia] Gee, nearly ten o'clcok here. I guess I'd better turn
in. Thanks, all! You know, I've learned some things here tonight. I don't much
care for "South Park," for one, but I've learned some useful things
too. See you later!
[Laura
Leff] So what else? Or should we call it good for this month?
[Laura
Leff] Have a good one, Brad!
[Mike
Amo] Want to ask from way earlier, how did Buster Keaton not know
from his doctors that he had lung cancer? His family kept it from him, or the
doctors?
[Maxwell]
So long Brad
[KayLhota]
I never heard, Mike, but I imagine that the Doctors and Mrs. Keaton withheld the
seriousness
[Maxwell]
Mike Back then a lot of times they wouldn't tell patients they had cancer. They
did that to my grandfather.
[Laura
Leff] Mike - I've got to pass on that one...not sure...
[KayLhota]
of his sore throat
[ed
kienzler] good night chet good night david
[Mike
Amo] Brad mentioned it I think
[KayLhota]
and he had a heavy cough
[Brad
from Georgia] Oh, Mike--I read in a biography that Keaton had chronic
bronchitis, and when his doctor told his wife about the cancer, she begged him
not to tell Buster, and he didn't.
[Mike
Amo] ty
[Mike
Amo]
[Mike
Amo] That would have sat in my head for a month
[KayLhota]
that's it, Brad. That makes sense
[Brad
from Georgia] And now, good night.
[Laura
Leff] Ah! Caught Brad before he went out the door...
[Mike
Amo] Nite Brad
User
Brad from Georgia has logged out.
[Maxwell]
And there he goes!
[Laura
Leff] Shall we wrap up then? Anything else?
[KayLhota]
Buster Keaton did know, though he never discussed it, either.
[Maxwell]
Laura: Two words.....
[Laura
Leff] Ah here we go
[josef]
I think it's good to wrap up
[Maxwell]
Gunhild Carling
[Mike
Amo] Mom died 7 weeks ago, LL, but she enjoyed the Benny stuff right
up to that Sullivan video
[Laura
Leff] Yup. I should just do that after a chat sometime.
[KayLhota]
no one has had any thoughts about next months guest shot?
[Laura
Leff] Mike - So glad we could keep her happy!
[KayLhota]
Command Performance?
[Maxwell]
Just type her name at YouTube and you'll get lots of choices.
[KayLhota]
This Is Our Best?
[Mike
Amo] Anything anywhere with Charlie McCarthy and JB?
[ed
kienzler] bye to all from the land of lincoln...
[Laura
Leff] Kay - What say I make it a surprise based on the samples you've
suggested?
[josef]
kay, if it's up for next month, I'll liosten to it.
[Maxwell]
I'm still here from IL.
[Maxwell]
See ya ed!
[KayLhota]
I'm looking forward to your surprises, Laura!
[josef]
course I'll listen to anything benny
[Mike
Amo] Works for me, LL
[Laura
Leff] I'll do my best!
[Laura
Leff] Take care all...see you in August!
[Maxwell]
LL Good idea.
[KayLhota]
see you in August
[Mike
Amo] Take care folks
[Maxwell]
So long!