IJBFC Chat - August 6, 2006
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Welcome
Laura_Leff has joined the chat.
[Steve_-shimp-] (knock wood) Kay!
[Kay_Lhota] Hi Laura
[Steve_-shimp-] Hi LL
[Maxwell] Hey LL!
[Laura_Leff] Hi folks!
[Maxwell] Now we can get started!
[Laura_Leff] How's everyone tonight?
[Kay_Lhota] yeah! Awesome episode this month!
[Maxwell] Keeping cool.
[Steve_-shimp-] Just fine, now that I'm out of the heat wave!
[Kay_Lhota] yeah, the heat broke to bearable here in MA
[Maxwell] Yeah, now I know when Jack bought the camel!
[Kay_Lhota] LOL Maxwell
[Steve_-shimp-] One hump or two, did we ever find out?
[Laura_Leff] Yes, I was struck that they carried that joke into the show
[Maxwell] I think it was two because it got better mileage.
[Laura_Leff] They did a variation on that bazaar skit in the 2-13-44 Benny radio show.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - But it's cooler than Cairo.
[Kay_Lhota] it's a fascinating program.
[Steve_-shimp-] True enough...but that's a DRY heat.
[Steve_-shimp-] So did Jack's writers do the USO material?
[Maxwell] Imagine getting a bunch of GI's to sit through a USO show at 1:30 a.m.
[Laura_Leff] I wonder how much of it was similar to their camp shows. I know of bits in the camp shows that weren't in the radio show, but
[Laura_Leff] not vice-versa
[Laura_Leff] Steve - It certainly sounds that way, but I'm not positive.
[Maxwell] I would imagine that the regular camp shows would have had the singers/musicians perform more than one tune.
[Kay_Lhota] it's such a combination of the kid of bits that were from the show, but fresh with the different cast
[Laura_Leff] I was meaning to listen to the names used in the Relay gag, as they often used writer's names.
[Laura_Leff] Fred Foy vs. Don Wilson
[Steve_-shimp-] Well, this one seemed truncated - they had the journalist coming on at the end and then the broadcast just ends.
[Maxwell] I remember a few of them were Arabic.
[Steve_-shimp-] Fred was a lot like Don, actually. Eerie doppelganger.
[Maxwell] Yeah, they cut him off.
[Laura_Leff] I was amazed that they had the technology for intercontinenal audio trunks
[Kay_Lhota] yes, I thought that too.
[Maxwell] Well, they had Ed Murrow doing live broadcasts from London in '40.
[Laura_Leff] Max - Very good point
[Maxwell] They used shortwave, iirc.
[Kay_Lhota] so, these shortwave broadcasts were possible
[Laura_Leff] Max - Yes, I think you're right. That would account for some of the audio swirling intermittently
[Kay_Lhota] was it transcribed in NY?
[Maxwell] Yup. Especially since it was summer. Shortwave isn't as good then as in winter.
[Laura_Leff] That hotel gag about where Jack is staying was very reminiscent of his gags about hotels in Palm Springs
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Can't tell. No ID on the end.
[Maxwell] Yeah, the auto court gag.
[Laura_Leff] And the Colman reference is 2 years before the Colmans started appearing on Jack's show.
[Steve_-shimp-] I liked Larry Adler a lot in this, LL, you knew him well - any anecdotes about this tour/show?
[Kay_Lhota] I didn't know that you knew him
[Laura_Leff] Steve - I can't remember any specific to this broadcast, but I really need to interview Fred Foy about it. He's still around.
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[Laura_Leff] Kay - Larry and I corresponded for a number of years. I interviewed him when I was in London in 1998.
[Laura_Leff] Hi Alex!
[Maxwell] Hi-ya Buck
[Steve_-shimp-] Hi Alex
[Alex_Buck] Hello All. Good to be back
[Kay_Lhota] Hi Alex
[Steve_-shimp-] That was a great "Begin the Beguine"
[Laura_Leff] I'm pretty sure he did the same number on Jack's show as well.
[Kay_Lhota] he was an astounding player
[Maxwell] I'd forgotten how good a "mouth organ" player he was.
[Kay_Lhota] he did play it on the Hollywood Canteen episode and the Gaslight one
[Steve_-shimp-] And, according to Jack, much to George Burns' irritation "The Greatest Comedian of All Time"
[Laura_Leff] Move over Jerry Murad.
[Maxwell] I've got to find a copy of him playing Rhapsody in Blue.
[Maxwell] Didn't Jerry Murad fire him?
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - I have that on a CD
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - You'd think I'd know that from reading his autobiography, but I had chicken pox at the time and don't remember much.
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[Kay_Lhota] Hi Barbara
[Laura_Leff] Hi Barbara!
[Maxwell] Hi Barbara
[Steve_-shimp-] Hi Barbara!
[Alex_Buck] Hello Barbara
[Maxwell] I think I remember reading that.
[Barbara] Hi everyone. Sorry to be late.
[Laura_Leff] Larry didn't have a copy of his own autobiography, so I sent him one.
[Kay_Lhota] wow
[Maxwell] Nobody is ever late here...just less early (and his band of renown).
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Laura_Leff] LOL
[Laura_Leff] Short people = Les Hite
[Laura_Leff] So Barbara and Alex, any thoughts on the Cairo show?
[Alex_Buck] I kid you not, we had a client who had an engineer by the name of Les Care
[Barbara] I'm wondering who wrote this show. Jack's team of 4 writers started in 1943, but I don't think they went to Cairo.
[Kay_Lhota] ouch
[Steve_-shimp-] What's the title of Larry Adler's autobiography?
[Laura_Leff] Steve - It Ain't Necessarily So
[Alex_Buck] I thought it was an interesting example of how Jack could carry a show regardless of who his cast was
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - We were wondering the same. But they reused some of the script on the 2-13-44 show.
[Steve_-shimp-] That could be the start of an Abbott and Costello routine, LL, but I'll just jot it down!
[Barbara] I see they got Mary in there by letter.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Was more in relation to his inclusion in Red Channels, etc., but applies to many things
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - As opposed to Mary reading a letter from her mother
[Steve_-shimp-] Yeah, that's a switch!
[Barbara] Yes.
[Maxwell] Including his association with Gershwin, I'm sure.
[Barbara] Didn't he say "doll" at the end?
[Kay_Lhota] yes, that was a good way to bring her character in
[Laura_Leff] I think Jack did that a couple times when Mary was "in Palm Springs" and missing a show
[Maxwell] Yes, he did.
[Laura_Leff] Max - Of course.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - I remember him saying it at some point, but the end was about the journalist and cut off
[Barbara] Larry Adler couldn't stand Mary, so I'm sure he never called her doll.
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Maxwell] I think it might have been after he read the letter.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - He had reason (but I guess so did a lot of people)
[Barbara] I thought it was a good show, and Jack seemed to be quite upbeat.
[Laura_Leff] You can hear Jack laughing at the start of the bazaar skit
[Maxwell] I can't imagine being upbeat at 1:30 a.m.
[Kay_Lhota] yes, very at ease
[Barbara] You're right Max, and in that heat too.
[Alex_Buck] I wonder howthe Cairo coffee was
[Laura_Leff] Max - I'm a night owl, and I've recorded a few of my Yesterday USA spots late like that.
[Maxwell] I used to be oen.
[Maxwell] oen
[Maxwell] one
[Maxwell] Sheesh...
[Laura_Leff] Not any more. :)
[Kay_Lhota] maybe they had a siesta during the hot afternoon
[Barbara] Wasn't his troupe called "Five Jerks from Cairo?"
[Kay_Lhota] Jack Benny seemed wonderful with the show and to the audience
[Laura_Leff] There's a photo of Jack with his shirt off in one of the books that was taken during this trip.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Correct. And the son of the guy who was their pilot contacted me a few months back.
[Kay_Lhota] really?
[Barbara] Was that of him lying in bed in the tent, Laura?
[Alex_Buck] I liked the gag about him playing his violin for the sphinx
[Laura_Leff] The photo was taken during the trip, not the book
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - That's it
[Kay_Lhota] I saw a film of that many years ago.
[Laura_Leff] There are some photos here and there of Jack posing with African natives and playing the violin for them.
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[Laura_Leff] Hey Scott!
[Barbara] Jack seemed so relaxed that I wonder if he was glad to get away from the usual routine.
[Maxwell] Hi Scott
[Alex_Buck] Evening Scott
[Steve_-shimp-] Hi Scott
[Kay_Lhota] Hello Scott
[Barbara] Hi Scott.
[Scott_in_KC] Hi from hot Kansas City....It is 105 F.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - We're talking about the Cairo show
[Steve_-shimp-] If this was from mid-September, had the regular radio season already started? I can't recall when the usual start dates were
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[Laura_Leff] I'm glad the heat wave moved out of here.
[Maxwell] I'd think any performer would love a GI audience like that.
[Laura_Leff] hello Bermuda!
[Kay_Lhota] It was a month before the season opened
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Hello Laura, hello all
[Steve_-shimp-] Hi Bermuda!
[Maxwell] Hi Bermuda
[Kay_Lhota] Hi Bermuda
[Scott_in_KC] I see. You would have a show from there when it is so hot here. :)
[Barbara] Jack loved a GI audience, as did Bob Hope.
[Kay_Lhota] Jack seemed to really play warmly and well to them
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Speaking of heat, did Jack really say "170 degrees" at the end?
[Barbara] I assume he enjoyed a few extra curricular activities there.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - It's to let you know how much worse it could be.
[Kay_Lhota] yeah!
[Alex_Buck] I think I heard this weekend that 137 is the record anywhere
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - Maybe that's the humisery index
[Maxwell] Alex, that sounds about right.
[Barbara] Yes, I don't know as it ever reached 170 anywhere. It may have felt like it.
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, did they ever do shows together, Jack and Bob?
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Camp shows, you mean?
[Scott_in_KC] Yes, Laura.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Well, it might have beem a bit of wartime hyperbole
[Maxwell] Well, on the Weather Channel they put a thermometer on the hood of a car the other day: 173.
[Kay_Lhota] they certainly did to guest spots for each others' shows
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Ouch!
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Not as far as I know. I think they had different troupes in different areas. But maybe some day my research will turn
[Laura_Leff] up something
[Maxwell] That was in NYC.
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - Maybe they put it on Jack's Maxwell just before the tea was ready
[Scott_in_KC] <<< Wondering if the old Maxwell could have handled this heat.
[Maxwell] They used to take it to Palm Springs.
[Steve_-shimp-] Were any other of Jack's USO tours broadcast domestically like this?
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Nothing's jumping to mind immediately.
[Steve_-shimp-] A real rarity then!
[Laura_Leff] Some clips from Movietone News and such.
[Scott_in_KC] True, Max.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Did they not announce the broadcast in advance for security reasons?
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I noticed at the start they said they were preemting regular programming
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - Since Italy had surrendered, I don't know that Cairo was that dangerous of a place then.
[Steve_-shimp-] The weird thing is they say "somewhere in Egypt" and then specify Cairo and some more detail.
[Maxwell] The war in Africa was over by then, I think.
[Laura_Leff] I'd imagine that they had to insure that they had a good, solid shortwave connection.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Yes, the war in Africa ended in May
[Laura_Leff] Steve - That sounded more like salesmanship to me.
[Maxwell] The unit they were entertaining for was supply.
[Kay_Lhota] really?
[Kay_Lhota] that's so interesting to learn that.
[Barbara] Jack said once he was so impressed with Egypt and later Israel that he wanted to take Mary there, but it doesn't sound like she
[Barbara] would enjoy those plces.
[Laura_Leff] Interesting to hear how similar this was to camp shows Jack was doing domestically on his radio show
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Supplying Russia was one of the hardest jobs for Americans in the war outside of combat...
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - In Jack's words "Mary doesn't travel well"
[Bermuda_Grassreek] One route (Murmansk) was incredibly cold, and the other (through the Caucasus) was incredibly hot
[Barbara] That's true, Laura, but in the camp shows he did have some regular cast members.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Yes, but meaning the overall structure and some of the gags were similar.
[Barbara] Did she do anything well, Laura, except shop?
[Kay_Lhota] ouch
[Steve_-shimp-] *meow*
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, was that announcer the same Fred Foy who did "The Lone Ranger"? How come Donsy did not go? Heat would have affected him?
[Maxwell] Yup.
[Maxwell] And the Dick Cavett show.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Being the idle rich, to quote a family letter about her.
[Laura_Leff] Scott- Yup, same Fred Foy. I would bet that Don had summer shows to do domestically.
[Barbara] Jack always seemed looser on the away shows than he did in the studio, at least to me.
[Maxwell] Foy's voice speaking with Jack sounded a whole lot different than his radio voice.
[Maxwell] Or should I say "radio announcer's voice"?
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - I wonder if since you're doing the same show over and over, it's more like vaudeville. You know the timing and can
[Steve_-shimp-] Good point Barbara. Jack fights his giggles a little less than in the studio shows.
[Laura_Leff] relax into it.
[Scott_in_KC] I think Fred Foy is still alive, or not?
[Maxwell] Yes, he is.
[Laura_Leff] Fred Foy is still alive.
[Scott_in_KC] Wow!
[Maxwell] He was a fixture at ABC for years.
[Barbara] That's true. He always seemed very relaxed in the Vegas shows and theaters.
[Barbara] Jack said he didn't care for the name, Fred. I'm sure he had Allen in mind.
[Maxwell] You bet.
[Steve_-shimp-] Is Fred Foy related to the vaudeville Foys that Bob Hope did the movie about?
[Laura_Leff] A lot of comedians talked about how hard it was to transition from vaudeville to radio, where your material was used up every
[Laura_Leff] week
[Laura_Leff] Steve - I think so, but I'm not positive.
[Alex_Buck] You know, I stumbled upon Fred Allen's entry on wikepedia and there are several of his shows free for the down loading
[Maxwell] The only thing I've found about Foy's background so far is that he was from Detroit.
[Kay_Lhota] then he isn't one of the Seven Little Foys
[Maxwell] But I don't know how reliable that is. I do know he worked for WXYZ there, obviously.
[Laura_Leff] Welcome to WYXIE Wonderland
[Scott_in_KC] How come the other cast did not join Jack in the Middle East? Summer break?
[Laura_Leff] I have a book about radio announcers called "Golden Throats and Silver Tongues" which may have more info.
[Steve_-shimp-] At 170 degrees, Phil Harris ignites, Scott.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Well, Mary wouldn't have wanted to travel like that. And the rest probably had other gigs.
[Laura_Leff] Phil touring with his orchestra, Rochester doing nightclubs, and Dennis fathering children.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Busy, busy, busy
[Scott_in_KC] Fred Foy broadcasted on WXYZ in Detroit (before my time). LOL Laura!
[Alex_Buck] yeah, fathering children in 170F heat just doesn't sound fun
[Maxwell] Yup. Lone Ranger, Green Hornet, Challenge of the Yukon (Sgt. Preston).
[Barbara] I'm from Detroit and I remember WXYZ very well. That's true, Alex.
[Laura_Leff] I was interviewed on WXYZ a long time ago
[Scott_in_KC] Barbara...I used to live in dinky Marshall, MI.
[Maxwell] That was probably after Brace Beemer worked there.
[Alex_Buck] Speaking of which - I've got kids I need to get bathed and in bed. We'll catch you all next month
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Is WXYZ still around?
[Barbara] I can't imagine any of the cast would have wanted to go.
[Kay_Lhota] bye Alex
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[Laura_Leff] Take care, Alex!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Night, Alex
[Scott_in_KC] I have that interview, Laura, or the one you did on WOWO.
[Barbara] Bye, Alex!
[Maxwell] Yup. WXYZ is still there. I've heard it on my way through MI.
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - I would imagine...I think if it went off the air, it would be big news.
[Barbara] Scott, I was from dinkier Pleasant Ridge.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Really? Gosh, that was back in 1983. Forgot that I did one on WOWO!
[Maxwell] Yeah, it was huge when WMAQ went off the air in Chicago because so many of the network radio shows were produced there.
[Laura_Leff] I was from urban metropolis Grand Rapids.
[Scott_in_KC] ^5 Barbara.
[Maxwell] So I'm sure the same thing would happen with WXYZ.
[Laura_Leff] Isn't it amazing that KDKA is still around?
[Barbara] Is that Pittsburgh?
[Maxwell] Yup.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Yes, used to be on the Westinghouse Building when they were broadcasting the 1920 election returns.
[Maxwell] KYW is still around. It was one of the first (if not THE first) station in Chicago...but it moved to Philadelphia in the late '
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Let me guess...it's got a talk format now
[Laura_Leff] I imagine they may have moved since than.
[Maxwell] '20s is what that was supposed to say.
[Laura_Leff] Isn't WLW out of Cincy still around, or recently resurrected?
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I was surprised one night in the car to happen across the "nation's station", WLW
[Maxwell] Yup...It's been around all the time.
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - There's an echo in here
[Laura_Leff] I've got 1940s WLW magazines.
[Maxwell] 700 kHz for WLW. We get it after sunset here.
[Barbara] Bermuda, are you related to the Grease Racks?
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, I have a rather compe KCMO lling question for you. Do you think Jack would have joined these chats were he alive today?
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Yes, the grease racks
[Barbara] No, Jack would not have. It would be nice if Joan would, tho.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] We put together a musical in the 70s...perhaps you've heard of it
[Laura_Leff] Scott - I'm sure he would have appreciated them, but I don't know if he would have joined them.
[Steve_-shimp-] Computers might have been a bit much for Jack, he had trouble with light bulbs.
[Scott_in_KC] KCMO here.....regional clear channel, not national.
[Scott_in_KC] I just wonder if he was truly aware how great he was.
[Maxwell] My uncle used to listen to KCMO all the time when he drove his truck in that general direction.
[Laura_Leff] Maybe as a "guest appearance".
[Scott_in_KC] LOL Steve.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - I think if he had allowed himself that thought, it would have turned him into Al Jolson.
[Laura_Leff] If you know what I mean.
[Kay_Lhota] ouch
[Barbara] I asked George Balzer once if Jack knew how big a star he was. He said he did, but he didn't lord it over people.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I love one of WLW's programs, "Moon River"...a great late night show
[Scott_in_KC] :) Laura.
[Laura_Leff] That's part of the beauty of Jack...he never lost sight of the fact that he put his pants on one leg at a time
[Laura_Leff] just like the rest of us.
[Kay_Lhota] and he was always nice to everyone he met
[Barbara] Too bad e never saw that, Laura.
[Laura_Leff] I just got yet another seminal Benny story about him being in a parade, and then asking to see the
[Laura_Leff] local talent show. They just sat in the back, and he encouraged the performers from the audience.
[Laura_Leff] Impressed the dickens out of everyone for him being such a swell guy.
[Laura_Leff] BTW, the wild turkeys are here again this month.
[Barbara] Someone said Jack would go to the opening of a meat market.
[Laura_Leff] I think they come in tribute to Phil Harris.
[Maxwell] I could go for a wild turkey right now.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Only if they paid him to play. :)
[Barbara] Right.
[Kay_Lhota] I heard a story recently by a shopowner here in MA. That this guy's mother was in the kitchen at one of Jack's parties
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - There are three of them in our back yard.
[Steve_-shimp-] Do they just come for the chats?
[Laura_Leff] Kay - As a cook?
[Kay_Lhota] and that Jack put in an appearance entertaining the help.
[Maxwell] And all we get are rabbits.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Oh no, they're here all the time.
[Kay_Lhota] Yes, she had come in as a caterer
[Scott_in_KC] Max, you, you....you Phil Harris you.
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - And I have two rabbits here in the living room.
[Steve_-shimp-] lol
[Bermuda_Grassreek] We've got plenty of skunks around campus
[Maxwell] And of course our beagle ignores those.
[Kay_Lhota] Jack entertained in the kitchen and when he learned that she had a 12 year old son at home
[Kay_Lhota] he gave her clothes that his grandson had outgrown
[Kay_Lhota] I'm guessing that the grandson would have been Michael
[Laura_Leff] See, that's just "so Jack".
[Barbara] I have always wished I had gotten something of Jack's when he died. Even a pair of socks. But who do you ask?
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Depends on what year it was, I guess.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - Too bad you didn't (I presume) go to the auction after Mary's death.
[Laura_Leff] Someone recently sent me a shirt that had belonged to Jack.
[Kay_Lhota] Well, Steve, the shopowner is somewhere around my age, so his being 12 would have been around 1969
[Laura_Leff] Had the initials "JB" embroidered on it and everything.
[Barbara] No, I'm not sure as I knew about it. Did you go, Laura?
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - I was only 14 at the time, so wasn't in the loop on it.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - OK, that would have been Michael probably.
[Laura_Leff] Barbara - But I know there are assorted members of the club who picked up an item or two there.
[Steve_-shimp-] six hundred cases of uneaten Jell-O?
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Not at Don Wilson's house...
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Bermuda_Grassreek] No, that would've been part of Dennis's estate
[Laura_Leff] Once on a research trip, Joan let me stay in a guest house at her place. And there were books that had been in her parents'
[Laura_Leff] library. It was funny, because a couple of them had been skits on the show.
[Kay_Lhota] "I Stand Condemned"
[Scott_in_KC] Did they ever have time to....read?
[Laura_Leff] I'd just kind of pull them down and rifle the pages, wondering if Jack ever referred to the book while they were writing the sho
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Jack wasn't a big reader.
[Kay_Lhota] Was Mary?
[Kay_Lhota] Was Joan?
[Laura_Leff] Supposedly he had a copy of Gone With the Wind but gave it away after a year because he couldn't get past it.
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Scott_in_KC] Was it because his lack of education or simply no time?
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Mary possibly, although I don't know for sure.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - No time, really...or not enough interest.
[Kay_Lhota] mary seemed to know how to fill her time.
[Laura_Leff] Other priorities.
[Steve_-shimp-] One of the books, Irving Fein's maybe, says Jack always had a stack of books he started, and was interested in, but he rarely
[Steve_-shimp-] finished them.
[Kay_Lhota] oh, that makes sense.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - I found notes from her daily diary after Jack's death on her daily stuff.
[Steve_-shimp-] I sympathize!
[Scott_in_KC] It must be a surreal feeling, touching something Jack touched, Laura.
[Laura_Leff] it's all stuff like, "Have the upstairs hallway rug cleaned"
[Laura_Leff] "Talk with cook about menus"
[Laura_Leff] "Order flowers for den"
[Kay_Lhota] all house stuff. Nothing about observations or feelings.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - It can be. I make a point of always wearing his bar mitzvah ring when I'm doing the newsletter.
[Steve_-shimp-] That ring must be doing something right!
[Scott_in_KC] Appointment with Professor La Blanc?
[Kay_Lhota] LOL Scott
[Laura_Leff] Just sort of a talisman in hopes that he'd approve of whatever goes into the newsletter.
[Maxwell] I'm sure he would.
[Kay_Lhota] I'm sure that Jack would.
[Steve_-shimp-] Most definitely.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Oh, it's nothing personal. Just busy work.
[Scott_in_KC] Thank you, Kay.
[Laura_Leff] Kay/Steve - Thank you.
[Laura_Leff] Max - You too
[Laura_Leff] Nothing personal = Mary's notes
[Kay_Lhota] Mary probably couldn't deal with her feelings.
[Kay_Lhota] She would have had to admit that she was depressed.
[Steve_-shimp-] OK, this is horrible, but...
[Laura_Leff] It's interesting how some people had gotten used to being "Jack Benny's (whatever)"
[Steve_-shimp-] Wouldn't Mary have been great in one of those sixties "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" type shockers?
[Laura_Leff] Florence was permanently depressed after Jack's death.
[Kay_Lhota] Jack touched so many people.
[Laura_Leff] And Mary became rather reclusive, but was so even before Jack's death.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - That might be too close to being true...too scary
[Kay_Lhota] Mary may have been phobi about leaving the house
[Steve_-shimp-] Could've been a career boost, but I don't think she wanted one!
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Nah, she was pretty out of it by that time. And she'd only done the one movie on her own.
[Scott_in_KC] I am not an expert, Laura, but Mary and Jack had seperate bedrooms? TMI?
[Laura_Leff] I still laugh at her billing as "Jack Benny's 'Pest-Girl'"
[Laura_Leff] Scott - That's correct.
[Steve_-shimp-] Was that billing in vaudeville?
[Scott_in_KC] That's sad.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Sort of, it was when they were doing the theatre appearances after the start of the radio series
[Kay_Lhota] I always think of Mary as a sad person, Scott.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Not necessarily. Many couples in that age did.
[Scott_in_KC] Me too, Kay.
[Laura_Leff] I think Ida and Eddie Cantor did.
[Maxwell] Yup. My grandparents did after my grandfather became seriously ill...Kept separate bedrooms after he recovered until he died.
[Laura_Leff] George and Gracie did not, but they did have separate beds.
[Steve_-shimp-] My Grandparents did, they had seven kids, so it can work out all right.
[Maxwell] It was fairly common.
[Laura_Leff] I think it was part of being wealthy enough to afford a place big enough for separate rooms.
[Scott_in_KC] My parents shared the same bed until my dad passed away 20 years ago next month.
[Kay_Lhota] My parents did as they aged. They liked having more room of their own to spread out.
[Laura_Leff] There was a door that could close off their two rooms from the rest of the upstairs. They could go back and forth between their
[Laura_Leff] rooms, but keep others out.
[Laura_Leff] At least in the Roxbury house, that's how it was.
[Barbara] I hope they used that door on occasiSorry to be away, but I had a phone call. I am going to leave you now, but it's been great.
[Laura_Leff] Have a good one, Barbara!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Night, Barbara!
[Maxwell] So long Barbara!
[Scott_in_KC] <<< Never could understand the Hollywood lifestyle.
[Kay_Lhota] they watched TV together
[Kay_Lhota] night Barbara
[Steve_-shimp-] Goodnight, Barbara!
[Barbara] Love you all!
[Scott_in_KC] Good night, Barbara.
[Laura_Leff] So what else Benny-wise is on everyone's mind tonight?
[Kay_Lhota] I'm sorry that I've missed the last few chats
[Maxwell] Well, I'm gonna be surprised by what Benny show is on locally this week. I haven't checked.
[Scott_in_KC] A Benny wise is a Benny shaved.
[Kay_Lhota] I was sick on July 9 with a cold and fever
[Maxwell] Last week was Dennis's surprise party.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - No apology necessary...we have no exclusive on you. :)
[Steve_-shimp-] Though we like having you here Kay!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Sympathies, Kay
[Kay_Lhota] nope, but I would have prefered to have felt well
[Kay_Lhota] thanks Bermuda
[Kay_Lhota] I like coming to these chats
[Laura_Leff] And we like having you, Kay!
[Kay_Lhota] I also haven't had the chance to rave about Volume 2
[Maxwell] Cold and fever? What kind of excuse is that? :D :D
Barbara has left the chat.
[Laura_Leff] Laughter's the best medicine you know.
[Maxwell] Don't worry. I did that for you.
[Kay_Lhota] indeed
[Kay_Lhota] I'm glad you did my raving.
[Maxwell] Well, I am a raving lunatic.
[Steve_-shimp-] Volume 2 is great! (Just to re-emphasize)
[Laura_Leff] I've still got two free damaged copies of Vol 2 if anyone needs/wants them.
[Scott_in_KC] We can get Rochester to dote on you, Kay.
[Laura_Leff] Thank you!
[Kay_Lhota] oh, I'd feel better if nurse Van Jones showed up for me!
[Laura_Leff] I'm glad it's done. Plop-plop-fizz-fizz-oh what a relief it is.
[Maxwell] I'm waiting for the TV volume.
[Steve_-shimp-] I've got a left-field question ...
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - That's Volume 3, but will take a while.
[Scott_in_KC] LOL Kay. I wish he were my Valet.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - OK, Manny.
[Maxwell] I just want to be alive when you finally finish it.
[Steve_-shimp-] Anyone know if Frankie Remley was with Phil's band from the beginning of his tenure on the Benny show?
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I think I'd prefer Anna Lee to nurse me, thanks
[Laura_Leff] Steve - As far as I know, yes.
[Steve_-shimp-] I was listening to a 1937 show where they just referred to "the guitarist"
[Laura_Leff] I think Frankie was one of the original members of Phil's band.
[Steve_-shimp-] No "Remley",and Phil mentions they need him because he's the guy who "Marcels" Phil's hair.
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Maxwell] Okay, here's a related one....
[Maxwell] Was he still playing with Mahlon Merrick into the '60s. I've heard him mentioned in two shows recently ca. 1961-62.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Yes, i remember noting that as well. This is also why I thought it was Frankie, since they'd "selected" him for the jok
[Steve_-shimp-] Then Jack says "Oh, THAT'S what you do!", clearly ad-libbing to Remley, or so I thought.
[Steve_-shimp-] I shoulda checked 39 Forever!
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - I would imagine so, but I'll know better when I work on Volume 3. He showed up regularly in the programs
[Laura_Leff] Playing himself, or in the Zeke Benny skits, etc.
[Maxwell] He was under the table last week...a familiar position.
[Laura_Leff] Speaking of cast members who did war tours with Jack, Frankie went to Korea with Jack.
[Scott_in_KC] ....with Phil, Max?
[Maxwell] Nope. This was post-Phil (TV) so no mention of him. Just Remley.
[Laura_Leff] Remley stayed with Jack after Phil left.
[Maxwell] Except for Walter Tetley playing him on Phil's show. Kind of like being split in two.
[Maxwell] Not Watlet Tetley...Sheesh1
[Kay_Lhota] Don't you mean Eliott Lewis?
[Laura_Leff] Elliott Lewis
[Maxwell] Elliott Lewis.
[Kay_Lhota] echo
[Laura_Leff] There's an echo in here
[Maxwell] Brain cramped.
[Laura_Leff] in here
[Laura_Leff] in here
[Laura_Leff] yo-de-layhee-hoo
[Maxwell] I was thinking about Tetley regarding something else recently.
[Scott_in_KC] Speaking of TV, Laura, your book should arrive tomorrow. Again, thanks for all you do!
[Kay_Lhota] What, Maxwell?
[Laura_Leff] Scott - And thank you!
[Maxwell] I was just looking up some stuff as far as what he'd appeared in, etc. for my own amusement.
[Laura_Leff] TEst
[Maxwell] A-.
[Kay_Lhota] he did a lot as an actor
[Laura_Leff] Tea as well
[Maxwell] You would have had an A+ exceept for the capital E.
[Scott_in_KC] Walter Tetley was on Bullwinkle, too...I think. I think he was Sherman.
[Laura_Leff] Max - LOL
[Maxwell] Right.
[Kay_Lhota] I remember bill Scott refered to him as the World's tallest midget
[Maxwell] That was one of the things i was looking up.
[Kay_Lhota] he sounds the same
[Kay_Lhota] he is in the movie "The Villain Still Pursued Her"
[Scott_in_KC] LOL...and Bill Scott was Bullwinkle J. Moose....right?
[Laura_Leff] Has anyone ever released Rocky and Bullwinkle on DVD? Seems like a good opportunity
[Maxwell] (And you can tell how old I am by the fact that I think of it as "Rocky and His Friends."
[Kay_Lhota] And he is in Abbott and Costello's "Who Done IT""
[Steve_-shimp-] Oh, yeah, all the seasons are out, LL.
[Maxwell] Scott: Right.
[Laura_Leff] I think Larry Adler was the world's oldest child prodigy. Or maybe that was Oscar Levant
[Scott_in_KC] Laura...I saw them at Barnes & Noble. :)
[Kay_Lhota] all the seasons are not out, Steve
[Maxwell] Could have been either.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Ah, I'll have to look for them.
[Kay_Lhota] I've still waiting for the next one
[Steve_-shimp-] Or, several are!
[Steve_-shimp-] Too many DVDs out, not enough $.
[Kay_Lhota] they are nice, but they got rid of the original music
[Scott_in_KC] Max, me too!
[Laura_Leff] We just got a big honking TV and have been enjoying things like Lord of the Rings on it. But I couldn't
[Laura_Leff] resist putting a JB DVD on it to see Jack near life-size.
[Steve_-shimp-] Kay, that is too bad about the music! Didn't want to pay for the rights, I assume.
[Maxwell] You need to make it stop honking.
[Steve_-shimp-] LOL max
[Maxwell] Geese and horns are supposed to do that. Not TVs.
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - Our refrigerator is running too
[Kay_Lhota] no, they didn't want to pay for music that they didn't own
[Scott_in_KC] In color, too, Laura?
[Laura_Leff] Music rights are one of the trickiest things in licensing.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Yeah, decided to finally spring for color.
[Maxwell] Color? It'll never last!
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Laura_Leff] There's a joke about that in the commercials of the First Farewell Special.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I've read the mangling of the music on the Rocky & Bulwinkle sets was deliberate
[Kay_Lhota] I wish I could remember more of that farewell special
[Laura_Leff] When talking with studios about the Benny material, the very first question they ask is "How much music do they contain?"
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Something like, the theme used was Jay Ward's favorite of all the music used on the show
[Kay_Lhota] I saw it once
[Steve_-shimp-] Maybe the turkeys in LL's yard are attracted by the honking TV...
[Scott_in_KC] I heard a firm in Chicago is making 3-D TV with stereophonic sound....available in a couple of years.
[Laura_Leff] Steve - No, the TV would have to gobble then.
[Scott_in_KC] LOL Steve
[Scott_in_KC] ...and Laura.
[Maxwell] Great....3-D HD.
[Laura_Leff] There was a song in The Bandwagon about something like that.
[Maxwell] I guess I'll finally have to trade in the old Muntz.
[Maxwell] STEROPHONIC SOUND....
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - You're mad, man.
[Kay_Lhota] Silk stockings
[Maxwell] (Insert your own echo)
[Maxwell] Yeah, Silk Stockings.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Oh, was it Silk Stockings? Misplaced.
[Maxwell] Cole Porter.
[Laura_Leff] You know what I'm talking about.
[Scott_in_KC] I guess it is high time to throw out my 78s and Philco radio.
[Kay_Lhota] if there is anything I am an expert on, it's musicals
[Kay_Lhota] especially the MGM musicals
[Scott_in_KC] GMTA Max.
[Laura_Leff] What? No more VACUUM TUBES! For SHAME!
[Maxwell] You've got a Philco? I still have my Atwater-Kent.
[Laura_Leff] Bah. Cat's whiskers.
[Laura_Leff] and a coil around a crisco can
[Maxwell] I did help my son build a crystal set.
[Laura_Leff] I have a crystal set kit, but haven't had time to build it yet.
[Maxwell] It picked up WJOL here in Joliet just like it was in the same city.
[Maxwell] which it is.
[Laura_Leff] LOL
[Bermuda_Grassreek] My Philco replica at the office plays radio show MP3s from the computer...with the help of an FM microtransmitter
[Laura_Leff] Hey, this isn't Benny, but I just picked up a 1926 book of Sam n Henry. Their radio scripts from that time.
[Kay_Lhota] wow
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Cool, Laura
[Maxwell] Man, I wish I could play mp3s at work. But then that might kind of interfere with my teaching.
[Laura_Leff] A member tipped me off on Ebay.
[Scott_in_KC] Max...I get better reception on it than I do on my fancy stereo system.
[Kay_Lhota] I got a portable MP3 CD player for my birthday.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Headphones, Max :-)
[Maxwell] Back when S&S were the rage on WGN.
[Maxwell] S&H
[Maxwell] And I don't mean green stamps.
[Laura_Leff] Maxwell - Yup...it's copyrighted to the Chicago Tribune.
[Kay_Lhota] I can still remember a commercial about Green Stamps
[Laura_Leff] I can still remember licking green stamps.
[Scott_in_KC] What are green stamps, Max? J/K
[Kay_Lhota] "There's More for you in '62 with S and H Green Stamps"
[Maxwell] I can remember my mom buying stuff with Green Stamps.
[Laura_Leff] I have a suitcase that we bought with green stamps
[Laura_Leff] A 50-center had its very own page in the book.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Probably better stuff that you could get with Raliegh coupons...
[Maxwell] Nicky Chevrolet used to give Green Stamps with every car sold. Can you imagine licking those?
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, you sound like a true female Jack Benny.
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - I was recently seeing ads for those on Naked City shows.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Blame my parents. I was just helping them.
[Scott_in_KC] ^5 Laura
[Kay_Lhota] yes, I did that too. I used to glue the stamps into the book
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Cool, Laura, I love it when they leave the commercials in those old shows
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - They've put them on separate tracks, which is good because Naked City shows are very gritty and would be jarring to go
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Ah, I see
[Kay_Lhota] after I did it for a year or so, my Mom told me that I could buy something from the catalogue since I'd been so good at keeping
[Maxwell] They've shown a couple of Burns & Allen shows locally here where they kept the commercials that were integrated into the story..
[Kay_Lhota] up with the books
[Laura_Leff] from this intense drama to watching the Brylcreem puppets dance around
[Scott_in_KC] Bermuda...Then you would like the movie "Good Night and Good Luck."
[Kay_Lhota] so, I bought these 20 stereo headphones
[Maxwell] Harry comes into the kitchen to talk to Gracie and she's whipping up something with her B.F. Goodrich tires.
[Kay_Lhota] $20
[Maxwell] No...Carnation Mile.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - what would you do with 20 headphones?
[Maxwell] Milk.
[Laura_Leff] You've only got one head
[Kay_Lhota] my goof
[Bermuda_Grassreek] The Ed Sullivan Beatles' shows on DVD have the commercials left intact in them
[Steve_-shimp-] It sounds like everyone hear has heat stoke!
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, maybe she has 40 ears.
[Steve_-shimp-] here
[Steve_-shimp-] including me!
[Maxwell] I just have dyslexic fingers.
[Kay_Lhota] the headphones were huge, like earmuffs.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - That's a lotta corn
[Scott_in_KC] LOL...touche.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - At least they had pads unlike the vintage 1920s ones I have that are just hard rubber against your ear
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I remember the big honkin' headphones...
[Laura_Leff] Hard to hear the music over the honking
[Maxwell] Were they attached to Laura's TV?
[Kay_Lhota] my Grandpa worked for Goodrich
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Used to listen to my sister's circa 1970 stereo that way...gave me a headache
[Laura_Leff] The vintage ones have metal rods that stick up on the sides, and you can slide the earpieces up and down to adjust.
[Maxwell] I had these big ol' Super-X Pro B Vs...they must have weight 10 lb.
[Laura_Leff] But those metal rods make you look like a martian. Pretty cool.
[Kay_Lhota] I got a laugh when my walkman died, so I used a huge portable cassette player and those huge headphones
[Maxwell] LL, my Super-X's had those.
[Steve_-shimp-] Yeah, there's a great picture of Jack holding Joan while he's wearing the martian headphones as well.
[Laura_Leff] A lot different than today's little earbuds
[Kay_Lhota] the set up played great, but I looked like the before using
[Kay_Lhota] ad
[Laura_Leff] Steve - Really? I'm not sure that i've seen that
[Maxwell] I remember when Arthur Godfrey did a simulcast of his radio show on TV, he'd have those huge headphones on.
[Scott_in_KC] I am glad you are discussing this stuff because I used to think I always wandered off-topic.
[Maxwell] This conversation just resurrected that memory from 50+ years ago.
[Steve_-shimp-] I'm sure you have, it might have even been a photo caption contest once. I'll look around to see where I remember it from.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - Nah, we all do. After the first hour, I'm more open to it.
[Kay_Lhota] getting back to Jack Benny, I was listening to the Orson Welles pitch hitting shows today
[Bermuda_Grassreek] (puts on some polka music)
[Scott_in_KC] This is really cool...I am NOT complaining.
[Maxwell] What pitch did he hit? Fastball, curve, slider?
[Laura_Leff] Come on, PAPI! Hit it out of the park!
[Maxwell] LL: BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[Laura_Leff] LOL
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Boo, Red Sox!
[Laura_Leff] Come on Kay, I need some defense here.
[Kay_Lhota] it's interesting to hear a guest host, especially the way they shaped the jokes for Orson's hammy style
[Scott_in_KC] Orson Wells: "No wino will be served befoire his time."
[Maxwell] Anymore Red Sox stuff and I'll sing the White Sox fight song.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I enjoyed the extent to which Welles was willing to make fun of his image...
[Laura_Leff] Whiiiite Soxxx....we one once and that's about it.....Whiiiiite Soxxxx...
[Laura_Leff] ;)
[Kay_Lhota] hey, I like both teams. I was glad thathe White sox won the world series
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I would like to have seen that movie of his, "All Previous Thought"
[Scott_in_KC] BG...and he had a BIG image.
[Laura_Leff] I still wonder how they settled on Orson Welles, of all people.
[Kay_Lhota] yes, that is a curious question
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Was he friends with Jack?
[Laura_Leff] But when Jack was out another time, they used another dramatic actor (whose name is escaping me)
[Maxwell] He was from just down the road from Waukegan.
[Kay_Lhota] Herbert Marshall
[Scott_in_KC] <<< "Rosebud."
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - It sounds like it from their byplay
[Maxwell] Was it Herbert Marshall?
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Thanks
[Maxwell] D'oh!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] I agree, Laura
[Laura_Leff] I remembered the HM, but no more than that.
[Kay_Lhota] Orson may have been available and anxious to do radio
[Laura_Leff] Kay - What, to come back after the War of the Worlds fiasco?
[Kay_Lhota] I think his series "Ceiling Unlimited" had dropped him as the host
[Maxwell] HM...could've been Heinie Manush.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] These shows were after RKO had gone on the attack against him
[Scott_in_KC] Kay, he had a great voice, like James Earl Jones.
[Laura_Leff] Hermione Mingold
[Kay_Lhota] yes, a lot had been going on for Orson at the time
[Laura_Leff] Scott - ironic that you say that, because he was considered for the voice of Darth Vader
[Laura_Leff] Before Jones got the role
[Kay_Lhota] maybe he did Jack Benny as a damage control thing
[Bermuda_Grassreek] That makes sense, Kay
[Kay_Lhota] and it gave him the idea to do his Almanac series
[Laura_Leff] That's entirely possible
[Scott_in_KC] Laura...That's scary.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - I just learned that yesterday watching a documentary on the making of Star Wars
[Kay_Lhota] I don't know the why of his being on Jack Benny's show, but there was mention of it in a biography I read of Orson Welles
[Bermuda_Grassreek] "We will destroy no planet before its time"
[Kay_Lhota] LOL Bermuda
[Laura_Leff] Luke, I am your father.
[Scott_in_KC] That is ironic, Laura, since he was Professor Pearson in "War of the Worlds."
[Laura_Leff] With his size, he could probably hve done his own breathing.
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Laura_Leff] Scott - You know, I never thought of that!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] LOL, Laura
[Scott_in_KC] Jack Benny as Luke Skywalker.
[Kay_Lhota] I love the way that he laughs in the 1940 Hunchback episode
[Maxwell] I think of Jack as being more of the Han Solo type.
[Laura_Leff] The breakup over his blooper is a wonderful moment in Benny radio history
[Kay_Lhota] it is infectious
[Laura_Leff] Max - Nah, that's got to be Phil
[Maxwell] Mary as Princess Leia.
[Steve_-shimp-] OK, folks, I need to head out. Sorry I've been a bit quiet, I'm multitasking! A Pleasure as always.
[Laura_Leff] take care, Steve!
[Kay_Lhota] see you steve
[Steve_-shimp-] Plus, I feel the Jet Benny topic is coming up so I am going to duck out!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Night, Steve
[Steve_-shimp-] :)
[Maxwell] G'night Steve.
[Laura_Leff] Dennis as Chewbacca?
[Scott_in_KC] Have a great school year, Steve!
[Laura_Leff] Steve - I can't blame you.
Steve_-shimp- has left the chat.
[Maxwell] Phil as Chewy...with a pompadour.
[Maxwell] (However it's spelled.)
[Scott_in_KC] Our school starts next week.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Maybe...just maybe...by the next chat there will be a hint of fall in the air...sigh...
[Laura_Leff] Eddie Anderson as Lando Calrissian (sp?)
[Kay_Lhota] oh my
[Scott_in_KC] Rochester as...Hmmmmmm?
[Laura_Leff] Bermuda - Hope not. Makes me sad.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - The Billy Dee Williams role
[Maxwell] And the Maxwell as the Death Star.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] It will be sweet relief here in OK, Laura
[Laura_Leff] Mel Blanc as Yoda
[Scott_in_KC] Yep, I thought so.
[Maxwell] I picture Mel Blanc's Yoda with a Daffy Duck voice.
[Laura_Leff] Actually, there was a comment in the documentary that implied that Mel Blanc actually tested for the voice of C3PO
[Scott_in_KC] Mary as Princess Leha (?)
[Laura_Leff] And that Mel told them that the actor had a fine voice for the role
[Kay_Lhota] Mel Blanc did the robot Twiki in the Buck Rogers TV series
[Laura_Leff] So who's Darth Vader?
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Orson Welles and Mel Blanc in Star Wars...my, how different it could have been..
[Laura_Leff] FRANK NELSON
[Maxwell] Oh Darth!
[Laura_Leff] It suddenly came to me like a bolt from the blue
[Kay_Lhota] [scream]
[Maxwell] YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS?
[Maxwell] Don Wilson as R2D2.
[Scott_in_KC] "Use the Force, Jack......"
[Laura_Leff] Joe Kearns as Obi Wan Kenobe...because Ed was so old
[Maxwell] The Sportsmen Quartet as the Ewoks.
[Laura_Leff] So if Phil is Chewbacca, who's Han Solo?
[Kay_Lhota] and Joe Kearns died so early on
[Scott_in_KC] Fred Allen as, what, Laura?
[Maxwell] The emperor.
[Laura_Leff] Fred Allen as that pinch-faced guy
[Kay_Lhota] Jack Benny as Han. You got that earlier
[Laura_Leff] yeah, that's it
[Laura_Leff] So Dennis is Luke?
[Kay_Lhota] Fred as the evil Emperor?
[Maxwell] Yeah.
[Scott_in_KC] LOL Kay!
[Maxwell] Dennis as Luke is perfect!
[Laura_Leff] Actually.....you're right.
[Laura_Leff] It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is to superimpose the Benny characters on other shows
[Kay_Lhota] Benny Rubin as Boba Fett
[Laura_Leff] Star Wars, Star Trek, Pulp Fiction, etc.
[Scott_in_KC] You guys did not like my suggestion of Mary as Princess Leha?
[Maxwell] I said that, too, Scott.
[Maxwell] So it has been moved and seconded.
[Laura_Leff] Dang...I just forgot the name of the double-talker guy from the 30s
[Scott_in_KC] GMTA Max ^5
[Kay_Lhota] Cliff Nazarro
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Thanks
[Laura_Leff] Cliff Nazarro as Jabba the Hut
[Kay_Lhota] LOL
[Laura_Leff] Actually wait...that could be Don's role
[Kay_Lhota] LOL yes
[Maxwell] So who is R2D2?
[Scott_in_KC] Meyer and Emma (?) K. as Luke's parents?
[Kay_Lhota] a vacuum cleaner?
[Laura_Leff] MAxwell - Schlepperman
[Maxwell] Bingo!
[Laura_Leff] Or kitzel. Take your pick
[Maxwell] Kitzel as C3PO.
[Kay_Lhota] I like Schlepperman
[Laura_Leff] Actually, maybe Kitzel would be a good C3PO
[Maxwell] Or vice versa.
[Scott_in_KC] Laura, Jack would have been a great C3PO...always worrying.
[Laura_Leff] Scott - I can see that.
[Maxwell] Jack would never have allowed himself to be cast in a supporting role.
[Scott_in_KC] But not a big role.
[Maxwell] There'd be a big argument over it before the skit started.
[Laura_Leff] BRB
[Scott_in_KC] Mr. Billingsly would have been.... <scratching head>
[Maxwell] Hmmm...
[Kay_Lhota] let me give that some thought
[Maxwell] Yeah...
[Maxwell] That's a toughy.
[Scott_in_KC] ...and the Blue Fairy (Please be nice...I rather like Mary Kelly).
[Laura_Leff] The Death Star?
[Kay_Lhota] ouch
[Maxwell] No, that's the Maxwell.
[Kay_Lhota] no! The Maxwell is the Millinium Falcon
[Laura_Leff] That's the Rattle Trap
[Maxwell] True.
[Laura_Leff] Kay - Actually, that's pretty much what they did in Jet Benny
[Kay_Lhota] did they?
[Laura_Leff] *Sigh* Yeah
[Scott_in_KC] The Maxwell would have been a space cruiser. Present company accepted.
[Laura_Leff] And Rochester was an android
[Laura_Leff] It looks pretty much like a tube of glue that someone painted up badly
[Maxwell] Yeesh!
[Maxwell] Shoot! I gotta fun...time for the Revolution on the History Channel.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Night, Maxwell
[Laura_Leff] It's pretty awful. I don't want to think about it. *Curling into fetal position*
[Kay_Lhota] night Maxwell
[Laura_Leff] Have a good one, Maxwell!
[Maxwell] Remember the August comedy shows: www.nostalgiadigest.com. Jack is in 2 weeks.
[Maxwell] Adios!
[Kay_Lhota] hey, whenever you see a lousy piece of writing , you can do a better one
[Laura_Leff] So should we call it a wrap for this month?
[Scott_in_KC] You guys have wicked (in a good sense) imaginations.
Maxwell has left the chat.
[Bermuda_Grassreek] And I'd better scoot as well...Chrlie the Pup is getting anxious for his evening walk
[Laura_Leff] OK. Well, good chat everyone! We'll see you in September!
[Bermuda_Grassreek] (calls it a wrap)
[Kay_Lhota] thanks I have had a great time
[Laura_Leff] Same here
[Bermuda_Grassreek] Night, you all, and have a great August!
[Laura_Leff] Stay cool everyone!
[Scott_in_KC] Tale care all. Pray for peace.
[Kay_Lhota] thanks
[Kay_Lhota] indeed