IJBFC Happy Hours - April-May, 2020

 

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Sunday, April 5th

 

garth_johnson  4:51 PM

Another group of anxious and eager amateurs has gathered for Town Hall Tonight

 

Rodrigo Araya  4:52 PM

Is it today?

4:53

I could have sworn it'll be next Sunday"

4:53

!

 

garth_johnson  4:54 PM

From Facebook - Jack Benny fan Happy Hour

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Hosted by Laura Leibowitz

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kathy_fuller_seeley  4:54 PM

Jello everyone! glad to "see" you!

 

Rodrigo Araya  4:54 PM

Turns out i'll be listening to the Cairo USO show in a few minutes.

 

garth_johnson  4:55 PM

Rod - have you got the script?

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  4:55 PM

Laura says she'll be here in a few minutes. How is everyone doing?

4:56

I have had to move my undergrad course online, and its a whole lot of work (when I am not adept at technology at the best of times!)

 

Rodrigo Araya  4:56 PM

Would it be insensitive to listen to the episode in which Jack and Carmichael have a cold?

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  4:56 PM

ahchooo! That is a good connection, let alone Virus X sometime in the late 40s

 

Rodrigo Araya  4:57 PM

Virus X?

4:58

We all wonder whatever happened to Carmichael, but has someone ever wondered what became of Gracie Allen's duck?

 

garth_johnson  4:59 PM

Why a duck -- I'm more concerned about the pig

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:00 PM

Herman abruptly disappeared, just like Paul Whiteman!

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:00 PM

what a cute pig, how long did he/she last as a character on their show?

5:01

Paul Whiteman is a LOT of person to make disappear, hahaha almost as hefty as Don Wilson

 

garth_johnson  5:01 PM

Don't know if it was a 'character' or just a publicity shot for Hormel --- Spam

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:03 PM

Jack was performing at 1 am Cairo time, or 3 pm LA time.

 

garth_johnson  5:04 PM

And speaking of animal characters - This lady is the namesake of what Benny pet.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:04 PM

were any of Jack's broadcasts from the Middle East that summer actually able to successful broadcast back to the US? I read somewhere that at the last minute, troubles kept several shows from airing

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:05 PM

He's talking to a Fred... not Allen, of course.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:05 PM

is that the ostrich, ummm what was her name, Penny,.  Trudy!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:05 PM

Poor Fred would not be able to return until January '44.

5:05

The poor bassoon...

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:05 PM

was that because of Fred's heart trouble?

 

garth_johnson  5:06 PM

Trudy Wood the ostrich is the correct answer.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:06 PM

Yes. Not to mention he'd then leave the air for over a year.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:07 PM

Now I read in Jay Sandrich's scrapbooks that Trudy was his production assistant/secretary, same lady?

 

garth_johnson  5:07 PM

That is correct

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:08 PM

Poor Fred. His cast members had to scramble for work. Minerva Pious did a few Benny episodes, but then Fred was thankfully back on the air

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:08 PM

Seems Jack learnt some French during his African sojourn.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:09 PM

oui oui? better than Phil's something about eating the window?

 

garth_johnson  5:09 PM

From the Larry Adler Papers

  

Rodrigo Araya  5:09 PM

When did that happen?

5:10

Now Larry Adler's playing "Begin the Beguine" on his harmonica.

 

garth_johnson  5:11 PM

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:13 PM

wow that you have the script, and I LOVE Larry Adler's harmonica playing. Didn't they have him do Begin the Beguine again back in Los Angeles? I have read Larry's autobiography, and he's very liberal. He adored Jack, but could not stand any of Jack's ultra-conservative LA friends

 

garth_johnson  5:13 PM

Say Rodrigo what's with this Saida anyway

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:13 PM

Not sure. The quality is atrocious

5:13

Jack made a crack at Phil.

5:14

Now they're making an "ad" for pyramids.

5:14

Even with a jingle.

 

garth_johnson  5:15 PM

  

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:15 PM

Larry also hints at some interesting stories about Ingrid Bergman being with them on the trip. Various accounts have Ingrid having an affair with Robert Capo the photographer, but I found a telegram in Jack's papers in Wyoming tht hints he had a crush on her too. As well as Larry having the hots for her. Such a time....

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:16 PM

They now made a joke about Paul Muni.

5:16

Now they're making jokes about Jack's beard.

5:17

Involving also Ronnie Colman.

 

garth_johnson  5:17 PM

1945 - Photograph of Ingrid Bergman and Jack Benny Standing together in a field. She is wearing a white blouse and dark skirt while Benny wears a necktie, white shirt, and slacks.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:20 PM

Garth I would like to talk with you sometime about how you archive all these wonderful images and documents you have! I know that Laura started something a couple years ago but it quickly petered out (I know! we are all so busy!!!) . I wonder if our enforced downtime might spur us to try for a gigantic collective collection again...... (and I want to convince her to start digitizing some of the scrapbooks and documents that she has).

5:21

Rodrigo do you have much Benny stuff? I have mostly gathered US magazines that have not yet been digitized

5:23

My biggest "wish list" goal of the year is to find out from Joan Benny if she has the original manuscript to Jack's autobiography, as small hints I have seen show that it might have been edited down by her NYC publisher, and there may be intriguing little bits left out that would be of interest to us dedicated JB fans.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:24 PM

Just some e-books one kind soul uploaded to the FB group last December.

5:24

By Josefsberg, Hickey Marks...

5:25

Irving Fein

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:25 PM

oh there is great material in those books!!!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:25 PM

Oh, I also once downloaded your essay on Jack's Canada Dry days.

 

garth_johnson  5:25 PM

Google is my friend. Then EBay. I learned a long time ago that websites are notorious for being there one day and gone the next, so back in 1994 I started collecting stuff.  First with Laura's site, and the caption contest, then I got serious and started using my archivist and database management skills to really organize things.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:26 PM

would you like a copy of my book, Rodrigo? Give me a mailing address and I will send a copy

 

garth_johnson  5:26 PM

The pics I've shared here should show my organization - year-month-day - source with catalog id - image description

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:27 PM

Garth, your collection is SO AMAZING!

 

garth_johnson  5:27 PM

Kathy do I get a copy -- and what's happening with the collection of scripts

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:27 PM

rodrigo.araya@aol.com

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:29 PM

gosh Garth I would love to send you a copy, just give me a snail mail address, and Rodrigo I only have hard copies (but I have a generous sponsor at my university who will purchase copies for me to give away to friendss)

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:29 PM

Ouch!

5:29

Overseas mail is quite another business, moreso these days.

 

garth_johnson  5:30 PM

My picture database item counter says 34,850 pictures - but that does include duplicates / alternate sources / alternate watermarks - captions as a separate file and a tonne of database files related to keeping track of vaudeville dates and of course a lot of newspaper / magazine clippings.  About 6 gigs of data if I remember correctly

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:31 PM

well the virus has slowed everything down. But Ben Ohmart's head of production was in touch a couple weeks ago, so when they get back up and running I hope that we will be in production! with volume 1, May-July 1932. there are such great jokes there. I don't mind shipping overseas Rodrigo, it will get there eventually

 

garth_johnson  5:31 PM

For Corn Sakes!

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:32 PM

Ben Ohmart's company Bear Manor Media published a wonderful and huge biography of silent comedian Fatty Arbuckle at the start of the year, I hope his wonderful company thrives

 

garth_johnson  5:32 PM

That reminded me - the collection contains a few individual page files for a few books available as google previews

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:33 PM

you can send me a snail  mail address to my school email  kathy.fullerseeley@austin.utexas.edu

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:34 PM

Someone at the FB group shared a documentary on Jack by noted British comedy writer Barry Cryer.

5:34

This in a series about comedians he worked with, both from the UK and the US.

 

garth_johnson  5:38 PM

Don't keep us in suspense, be a good an faithful servant and tell us if the program is good or not

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:39 PM

Wonder if Laura will be able to be with us tonite...

5:39

Not that this hasn't been an entertaining conversation.

 

garth_johnson  5:40 PM

She can just replay this Power(less) Point presentation

5:43

Rodrigo - If you are interested in the Cairo show script, it is in the Larry Adler papers at https://digitalcollections.uwyo.edu/luna/servlet/uwydbuwy~67~67

5:43

There is also a good number of pictures of Larry's other travels with Jack and the United Service Organization Camp Shows

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:44 PM

hey, I lost my connection but now am back. Laura had written me 90 minutes ago to say she was out trying to get groceries and might be delayed. I love Larry Adler, Rodrigo, thanks Garth for the connections

5:47

But if not, I have been so glad to chat with you both, Garth and Rodrigo! Please send me mailing addresses to my school email (kathy.fullerseeley@austin.utexas.edu) and I will be very glad to send along my UCalifornia Press book, yay. Let's urge Laura to work with us in these times when we are stuck at home to collect up some of our Benny materials!

 

garth_johnson  5:47 PM

I am more a fan of Max Geldray, but that may be because I like the Goons

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:47 PM

Looking for the Cairo script I stumbled into some Shower of Stars videos apparently.

 

garth_johnson  5:48 PM

I think the versions that are at Archive.org are better than at University ones, but it's been a couple of years since I grabbed them

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:49 PM

There are several photos I don't recall to have seen.

 

garth_johnson  5:51 PM

Over at the U when you included the Jack Benny papers, there are about 549 files

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:53 PM

http://digitalcollections.uwyo.edu/luna/servlet/detail/uwydbuwy~85~85~1895395~258388:Photographs-of-the-Bennys---Mary-Li?sort=rid%2Ctitle%2Cdate_original%2Csource&qvq=w4s:/when%2Fundated;sort:rid%2Ctitle%2Cdate_original%2Csource;lc:uwydbuwy~85~85&mi=8&trs=36

5:53

I guess this one is from the mid-30s.

 

kathy_fuller_seeley  5:53 PM

Well, sirs, I am going to go make dinner. Wonderful to talk with you all! Send me mailing addresses!  goodnight  : )

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:53 PM

G'night.

5:54

I guess i'll stay awhile just in case.

 

garth_johnson  5:55 PM

This concludes our broadcasting day.

 

5:57

I can see by the clock on the wall its time to bid you one and all good-night...

 

Sunday, April 12th

 

Steve_Smith  4:58 PM

Hey ... I remembered  ... but I'm on the last episode's thread line..

 

Rodrigo Araya  4:59 PM

All right.

 

Steve_Smith  5:00 PM

Where's the Boss??

 

garth_johnson  5:01 PM

Laura! .. Laura Leibowitz!  -- last I saw about 7 minutes a go she liked my reply to her Phil Harris post

  

Rodrigo Araya  5:01 PM

How's it going?

5:02

I'm not in a lockdown zone, but life has not been quite the same.

5:02

Wonder how it is elsewhere...

 

Steve_Smith  5:02 PM

If I get my ice cream and start on that.. then she'll pop in

5:03

oh me too ...

 

garth_johnson  5:04 PM

Steve I thought the same when I got my Ballentines -- decided to watch a Matt Helm Movie tonight and have to get in the mood - but still no LL

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:06 PM

Listening to Jack right now... He's just returned from Africa

5:06

A Casanova at the Casablanca

 

Steve_Smith  5:06 PM

okay.. i'm set..

5:07

What year...??

 

garth_johnson  5:07 PM

If you find the guy the began the Beguine, can you tell him to stop it!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:07 PM

1943

5:07

The Acme Plaza: The only foxhole with a lobby.

 

garth_johnson  5:09 PM

Rod. Here is some information about the Cairo broadcast from Variety.

 

Steve_Smith  5:09 PM

   

Rodrigo Araya  5:11 PM

There's a Quaker Oats ad that appeared on Sunday comic sections at the time that announced the Oct. 3 premiere date.

 

garth_johnson  5:11 PM

They did not get the word about social distancing back in '43

  

Rodrigo Araya  5:11 PM

The odd thing is that the show was sponsored by Grape-Nuts back then.

5:13

Jack mentions he apparently met General Patton while in Italy.

5:14

Mary thinks he didn't even meet Corporal Crawley, the brother of the cabbie who brought them to the Acme.

 

garth_johnson  5:15 PM

Jack with Mervyn LeRoy and Patton in 1945

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:16 PM

For some reason Mr. Billingsley is at Jack's room.

5:16

At least until the Rochmeister restrained him.

 

garth_johnson  5:16 PM

SPOILER ALERT -- Variety Reports

5:17

Si Howard gets a writing credit before he goes A.W.O.L!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:17 PM

Tackerberg?

 

garth_johnson  5:18 PM

Even back then people couldn't type and linotypesetting is a real slug fest!

5:20

For those people that haven't seen a linotype machine - what comes out of it for printing is called a slug.  Slug may still be used in the newspaper industry, but my experience there was pre computer printing.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:21 PM

Actually, I once read about one weekly that still used "hot type".

 

garth_johnson  5:22 PM

Old tech still gets the job done

 

Steve_Smith  5:22 PM

I was hoping for a cool video session to-nite ... came back in time and all.. ah well

5:23

just us three

 

garth_johnson  5:23 PM

Is it essential that you travel from New York to L.A?

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:23 PM

Dennis, being Dennis, had no idea about Jack's trip.

 

garth_johnson  5:24 PM

Steve what do you want to watch maybe I can do something here by attaching a file

 

Steve_Smith  5:26 PM

oh ... i don't wat to think either, ... HA !!

5:27

Laura has so mant shows I havnen't seen

5:28

I've seen everything available on line and DVD/VHS

 

garth_johnson  5:29 PM

I am more of a radio fan, and have been spending too much time researching the Vaudeville era, so the TV Shows I've collected off youtube for viewing at a more convenient time

 

Steve_Smith  5:29 PM

tho once in a while I'll stumble across a guest appearance

5:30

Oh me too.. heard almost all of them ... the super earily shows of his  didn't grip me so I skip up to the Anndy Devine days.. Love Andy!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:31 PM

This is Jack Benny, the Canada Dry humorist...

 

garth_johnson  5:32 PM

1932 - Jack with Ed Thorgeson - Rehersal

 

Steve_Smith  5:32 PM

Ed... in the vault?

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:33 PM

Jack's first announcer.

5:33

He was also a sportscaster.

5:33

Seriously, if not for the date, I'd swear it was from the 1940s, not 1932.

 

Steve_Smith  5:34 PM

oh... see early .. guess I should go through 'em

 

garth_johnson  5:34 PM

And here is a rare publicity picture - Jack for Canada Dry on CBS

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:34 PM

Never saw a picture of Jack during his first CBS stint...

 

garth_johnson  5:34 PM

May 10, 1932 - Pittsburgh Press - Were You Listening? - ... Jack Benny, Pittsburgh's network clown, said Eddie Thorgersen's mustache looks like he swallowed "Mickey Mouse all but the tail."  Jack proposed a contest (for what is radio without a contest?) He didn't ask for ginger ale caps but a 20,000-word brief explanation why one likes the product, accompanied by an affidavit of witnesses and the mayor.  Even George Olsen, orchestra leader, and his wife, cut in on the clowning. ...

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:35 PM

The "Mickey Mouse tail" gag would be used quite often during Jack's early days in radio.

 

Steve_Smith  5:37 PM

Oh ... trying to recall any monster shows

 

garth_johnson  5:37 PM

1932 - Canada Dry Program - Jack Benny, George Olsen and Ethel Shutta at Piano

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:38 PM

Did everybody get a tan in the early 30s?

 

garth_johnson  5:40 PM

Drawing a "Blanc" on anything at hand for Ed -- Him coming out of the vault was a radio show and I don't have all the show summaries in a nice searchable form

5:42

please stand by ...

5:44

This is going to take a bit of time ... file is about half way into this system

5:46

I think we need a musical interlude by Ann Leaf about now

5:46

Ann was the organist for the Fred Allen Linit Show

5:47

Let me try this - from 1956 - Season 7, Episode 2 with George Burns and Spike Jones

MPEG 4 Video 

 

1956-10-07_-_jb-t07-e02-guests-george_burns_and_spike_jones.mp4

93 MB 

MPEG 4 Video

 Click to download

 

5:47

Please Press Play

 

garth_johnson  5:57 PM

Artie Auerback as Mendelssohn

 

garth_johnson  6:13 PM

Here is the script

PDF 

 

1956-10-07_-_jb-t07-e02-guests-george_burns_and_spike_jones.pdf

357 kB 

PDF

 Click to view

 

 

6:13

We - not a "monster" show, but the devil himself did make an appearance  Steve

 

Steve_Smith  6:14 PM

Oh ... I was thinking radio shows.. but you're right - GB was close.

6:17

I like old monster movies... not so much horror/bloody .. monsters.. and the hokey ones too.. hokey is good.

6:18

oh and I thank you for all you efforts and  input kind sir..

 

garth_johnson  6:18 PM

Ok  - nothing comes to mind right now but the Haloween shows

 

Steve_Smith  6:19 PM

 

 

garth_johnson  6:20 PM

Speaking of spooks - Cora Salisbury wrote a song called "Ghost Dance" that she and Benny did in their vaudeville act, October 31, 1955 the Sportsmen turn it into a Lucky Strike commercial

 

Steve_Smith  6:20 PM

I'm east coast and elderly .. about ready to turn in...

 

garth_johnson  6:21 PM

West coast and full of turkey -

 

Steve_Smith  6:21 PM

thanks for the JB time together guys and hope to see everyone next WEEK !

 

Rodrigo Araya  6:21 PM

Wonder if they raffle them at train stations...

 

garth_johnson  6:22 PM

I don't know, but the winning ticket number was posted here a back in either October or November

 

Steve_Smith  6:22 PM

g'nite all ... ((((((((((POOF)))))))))))

 

Rodrigo Araya  6:22 PM

Good night.

 

garth_johnson  6:23 PM

I am surprised LL didn't show up, must have got distracted

 

Sunday, April 19th

   

garth_johnson  5:00 PM

Knock Knock Knock --- Who's there --- It's the Happy Gang --- Well come on in!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:00 PM

The Grape Nuts and Grape Nuts Program starring Jack Benny!

 

garth_johnson  5:00 PM

no no no that's the great nuts program

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:04 PM

Mary said Jack was in the Army in the war before WWI (Spanish-American War).

 

garth_johnson  5:05 PM

I did not know that --- please tell us more

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:06 PM

* Where's (Cy) Howard, Tackaberry?

* He's gone AWOL to Red Skelton!

 

garth_johnson  5:07 PM

Yup Cy only has the one episode to his credit to my knowledge --- I need Laura's books for proper reference.

5:08

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:09 PM

The cast complains to Jack that "Army life" has gone to his head since his return...

5:10

Then he tells Phil he better behave or he will work for Fred Allen...

5:10

And he's not broadcasting.

5:11

Crawley the cabbie has returned, insisting Jack saw his brother.

 

garth_johnson  5:13 PM

Looks like another low attendance day at tonight's Great Nuts program ... so shall I share a video?

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:13 PM

Not yet.

 

garth_johnson  5:14 PM

Ok, I'll hold off for a bit.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:16 PM

I've noticed Jack spoke differently in the 1930s and early 1940s radio shows compared to later on.

 

garth_johnson  5:16 PM

I was hoping Kathy would be joining us, I wanted her input on a little test document I have been working on

5:16

Differently --- how so

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:16 PM

Maybe more leisurely.

5:17

Considering the surreal turn the show took after 1943-44, makes sense.

 

garth_johnson  5:17 PM

Yes --- new writers, and a good stable cast does that.

5:20

A lot of discussion about the role of writer Harry Conn in the facebook page.  He gets disparaged by many, but it is not without some merit - the tone that his version of "Jack Benny" takes is not as what Ed Beloin or George Balzer took in the later years.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:21 PM

Haven't looked much into the group this week.

 

garth_johnson  5:22 PM

The Vaudeville Calendar of Salisbury and Benny - 1911

PDF 

 

1911_with_coloured_notes.pdf

316 kB 

PDF

 Click to view

 

 

5:23

The facebook discussion for the past few weeks has taken a real downturn --- I had to go into the archives for some info and was reminded of the old discussion on Conn.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:25 PM

I do remember seeing a clip from "The Woods are Full of Cuckoos".

 

garth_johnson  5:25 PM

That's a fun cartoon, if you know your 1940's personalities

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:25 PM

But I don't recall Jack saying "hello, folks".

5:26

Nor Mary nor Andy saying it either.

5:28

Not saying they could use "Jell-O again".

 

garth_johnson  5:28 PM

Ohh --- I don't have the film in my collection, just a couple of still screencaps ... Guess that's next on the find and download list --

5:31

https://vimeo.com/331333742

Vimeo | Boomerang

The Woods Are Full of Cuckoos 1937 US Dubbed Version

The USA Dubbed Print uses 1947-1948 while The EU Dubbed Print uses 1937-1938US Print uses 1941-1955 while EU Print uses 1938-1941reissued in 1941-1942

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:33 PM

Too bad I can't watch it at the moment.

5:33

And I'll be listening to Charlie McCarthy in a while.

 

garth_johnson  5:33 PM

There is a great utility program for Unix and Windows called Youtube-dl that makes collecting these so easy - give it the URL of the file and in a few moments you have your own copy.... the problem is I collect so much!

5:35

5:38

And another 62meg of data added to my Benny collection -- May have to trim out some George Olson or Abe Lyman recordings to free up space

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:38 PM

I've realized that there was a thing with early 1930s radio shows.

5:39

You've got announcers with names like Wallington, McNamee, Brokenshire, Thorgeson

5:39

And the entertainers were either Irish or Jewish.

 

garth_johnson  5:39 PM

Yes -- the newsmen

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:40 PM

Wonder if there was some intended "cultural clash".

5:41

I think Cantor did it early in his "Chase and Sanborn" show, parodying the "Camel Quarter-Hour".

 

garth_johnson  5:41 PM

The New Yawkers, of NBC.  Everything from the big city. The soap operas from Chicago things changed when Hollywood and the talkies took over --- one of the reasons Benny went west

 

garth_johnson  5:50 PM

Mr. Araya ... Mr. Araya --- My pint for the night seemed to have a hole in the bottom of the glass, so unless you have some Benny Questions I'll say Good-night kiddies.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:51 PM

Well. Mr. Johnson.

5:51

I think you can sign-off.

5:51

Or, "Don, it's time to close".

 

garth_johnson  5:52 PM

You have been listening to he Mutual Don Wilson network --- we end our programming day!

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:52 PM

It's the Don Lee Network!

 

garth_johnson  5:53 PM

   

 

Sunday, April 26th

 

garth_johnson  4:59 PM

With the discussion of what Ben, Zez and the rest of the bluejackets were doing in 1918-19 I found this....

  

Rodrigo Araya  5:03 PM

I guess Jack is the one at the left.

 

garth_johnson  5:04 PM

Yes Issy's There, being disorderly

5:06

I don't know if anybody else will be joining us here tonight

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:07 PM

Again?!

5:07

Howzabout some gin rummy?

5:08

"No thanks, Mr. Benny! You never pay!"

 

garth_johnson  5:08 PM

What kid on the train said that --- I can't remember

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:08 PM

Dennis.

5:09

Hey, Dennis! What would you like to eat!

5:09

?

 

garth_johnson  5:10 PM

There are those peanut butter sandwiches -- darn that tubby Don Wilson for sitting on the peanuts

5:13

The girl on the train may have been Cora Sue Collins, who did some work at Paramount, but I don't know If she was ever on the radio program --- I need Laura's books but the exchange rate and shipping means I can only afford one.

5:16

It could also have been Carolyn Lee seen here with Jack in 1939.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:17 PM

I think that would be Joan.

 

garth_johnson  5:18 PM

Carolyn is in "Birth Of the Blues" with Eddie Anderson and Mary Martin in 1941.

5:19

And she got to have cake with the Benny gang too.

5:21

And after seeing this shot from January '42 I am now sure it was her on the train back from New York in the "gin rummy" scene.

5:23

Here is a publicity shot of Mary and Joan in 1942.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:25 PM

Are we talking about the same "train to Hollywood" episode?

5:25

Or is the one from 1941?

 

garth_johnson  5:26 PM

Probably not --- I can't remember the date It was one of the random episodes I heard in the last two weeks.  - The routine gets done a few times.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:27 PM

Well, I suppose it didn't have a spoof of "Algiers"...

5:27

With "Blood and Guts" Le Moko.

5:28

And somehow Minerva Pious, er Ingrid from "Casablanca" appeared from nowhere.

 

garth_johnson  5:28 PM

No -- so you are listening to things in sequence ... I've never done that

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:28 PM

Have done that for almost two years.

5:29

Even tho I started halfway through the 1941-42 season.

 

garth_johnson  5:29 PM

Were you ever in Casablanca?

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:30 PM

That's not Jack for sure.

5:30

It's like that scene in "Home Alone"...

5:31

One does want to think the tall guy in the airport is actually Elvis, but it's unlikely.

5:31

Altho Jack's case is more plausible... He was under contract to Warners.

 

garth_johnson  5:31 PM

This article says he was a waiter but the waiters shown don't look like Jack.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:32 PM

I recall seeing that same article awhile back.

 

garth_johnson  5:35 PM

Not the easiest file to read -- Liberty Magazine, November 31, 1943 Page 10

5:37

Since Kathy is not joining us -- I had messaged her on facebook a half hour ago with no response - I'm going to say good-night

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:38 PM

For the record, Laura has been making and apparently giving away masks these days.

5:38

G'nite.

 

garth_johnson  5:39 PM

And doing it just for challah of it. ( bad puns)

 

 

Sunday, May 3rd

 

 garth_johnson  4:59 PM

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:00 PM

Have your tickets ready, please!

 

garth_johnson  5:01 PM

Will these get me in here?

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:04 PM

Say, Jackson! What d'ya think about me fooling people into thinkin' I'm a dumb conductor with no knowledge of music!

 

garth_johnson  5:05 PM

The joke works ok as Mahlon does all the work

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:05 PM

Isn't his job conducting the orchestra during the vocal numbers?

 

garth_johnson  5:06 PM

5:07

Mahlon was the music department- arranger, leader, Phil after his first year or so was just a front man for the show -- of course he still did the tours with his own agravation.

5:08

One of theses should let me in

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:09 PM

I know Merrick joined at the same time the string trio was added in 1937.

 

garth_johnson  5:10 PM

Merrick even quit in November 1943, but not for long

5:11

Here he is with the Sportsmen in '48

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:11 PM

With Bagby at the piano, I assume.

 

garth_johnson  5:13 PM

ya - you usually can find him "upright" unlike a certain left handed guitar player

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:14 PM

Speaking of the band, did Mahlon work with the guest bands during Philsie's Marines absence?

 

garth_johnson  5:16 PM

Not certain --- my memory is clouded by doing pre 1920 research - - but I can not think of a reason why not.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:17 PM

Thinking it well, he likely did. As far as I know, the Goodman orchestra never had a string section, yet you can hear 'em during Dennis' songs.

5:17

Benny Goodman, not Al Goodman.

5:18

Goodman's band even had a tuba.

5:18

In 1949.

5:18

Enough mind-screw for now.

 

garth_johnson  5:19 PM

Haven't listened to Goodman in some time --- More a Miller person

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:20 PM

Anyway I doubt Whiteman, Crosby or Lyman would have wanted to surrender the baton.

 

garth_johnson  5:21 PM

ya - let them do their thing - as long as the sponsor is happy - let the incidentals etc be handled by the Mahlon et al.

5:22

And when Benny went east - it was one less person to book passage for on the train

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:24 PM

I don't know. Maybe we should discuss Frankie Remley.

5:24

He apparently joined at the same time Phil was hired to replace Johnny Green.

 

garth_johnson  5:26 PM

Frankie and Phil go all the way back to when Phil went to Australlia

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:26 PM

Really? Where was he born?

 

garth_johnson  5:27 PM

November 1927 - Ship Arrivals - Wonga Harris and Frank Remley with his wife Helen arriving in San Francisco from Australia.

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:28 PM

How did he end in Australia?

5:28

Can't come up with a prison joke yet.

 

garth_johnson  5:29 PM

Frank Remley was born October 13, 1901 , Moorhead, Clay County, Minnesota, USA

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:29 PM

The paper says Chicago.

5:29

Oh! That's his wife.

 

garth_johnson  5:32 PM

Back in '26-7 Henry Halstead's ork folded, Phil took it over and got various bookings up and down California, mostly the San Francisco area - He got a booking in Australia, how - who knows - and he and Frankie went down under. Phil came back Married to Mascotte Ralston of Sydney

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:34 PM

Quite a few bandleaders went down under. Jay Whidden and Roy Fox, the latter better known for his work in England.

5:35

I remember reading that early on, the bandmembers' real names weren't used in the show.

5:39

One episode had the guitarist billed as "Happy" Bolliver.

 

garth_johnson  5:40 PM

Sometimes names were made up for use in a joke, but mostly they were named,

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:41 PM

Notably, three of Jack's pre-Harris bandleaders had gone to college: Don Bestor, Johnny Green and... Dr. Frank Black.

 

garth_johnson  5:43 PM

---- just got a telephone call --- have to say good-night

 

Rodrigo Araya  5:43 PM

Alright. G'night.