IJBFC Chat - August 6, 2017

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[4:59 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hi folks!

[5:00 PM] R.Hookie: Hi Laura

[5:00 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hey Hookie!

[5:00 PM] Tom Vorce: Hey there, Laura!

[5:00 PM] Laura Leibowitz: You know, there's an old commercial I keep meaning to look for

[5:00 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hi Tom!

[5:00 PM] R.Hookie: Hi Tom

[5:00 PM] Laura Leibowitz: But I'm pretty sure it's local to a Grand Rapids area appliance chain.

[5:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I don't recall why it's been playing in my mind recently, but it was pretty popular and cute at the time.

[5:01 PM] Tom Vorce: Hi R. Hookie!

[5:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: So, Hookie, I'd ask you to go look for it, but it probably wouldn't mean anything to you.

[5:01 PM] R.Hookie: You want me to research it?

[5:01 PM] Brad Strickland: Hi, everyone.

[5:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hey Brad!

[5:01 PM] R.Hookie: Hi Brad

[5:02 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hookie - If you really want to.  I don't want to send you on a search you won't find interesting.

[5:02 PM] Tom Vorce: Hello Brad!

[5:02 PM] R.Hookie: I might find it... about when was it on?

[5:02 PM] Brad Strickland: Hi, Tom, Hookie, Boss Lady!

[5:02 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hookie - Late 70s-early 80s, was for Highland Appliance.

[5:03 PM] R.Hookie: Got it... I'll find it

[5:03 PM] Laura Leibowitz: The woman of the house has gotten new appliances in her kitchen, and made up this gourmet meal and announces it to her family

[5:03 PM] Laura Leibowitz: The punch line is her son saying, "What ever happened to hamburger ala ketchup?"

[5:04 PM] R.Hookie: Good stuff to go on... I'll be digging through some files later

[5:04 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Great, thank you!

[5:04 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Brad/Tom - Hookie is known for unearthing old commercials.

[5:05 PM] Tom Vorce: That's cool!

[5:05 PM] Brad Strickland: The other day I was trying to remember a commercial jingle. The first ATM in our part of the country was dubbed "Tillie the All-Time Teller." She was a big-eyed cartoon girl in a bonnet, and there was a little song she sang, sort of with an "East Side, West Side" lilt, but all I can recall is "I'm Tillie the All-Time Teller, I work at First National Bank...." Then I blank out, and though I found Tillie's picture on Google, I couldn't find the song or lyrids.

[5:05 PM] Brad Strickland: Lyrics.

[5:05 PM] R.Hookie: The weirdest one was a Star Wars themed Old Dutch potato chip commercial

[5:06 PM] Brad Strickland: I remember Ernie Kovacs hawking Dutch Masters cigars!

[5:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hookie - does it compete with Stan Freberg's old ads?

[5:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Brad - Talk about the man who knows!

[5:06 PM] R.Hookie: hold on

[5:06 PM] Brad Strickland: I put a mention of the Dutch Masters commercials in one of the kids' books I wrote. It was one of the Bellairs series, set in the 1950s.

[5:08 PM] R.Hookie:

    File uploaded: Old Dutch star wars.webm


[5:08 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Let's give folks until 5:15 (my time) and we'll start the show.

[5:09 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Well, uh....it's better than "Jet Benny."

[5:09 PM] R.Hookie: I guess it needs converting... like rice

[5:09 PM] R.Hookie: Did you see it?

[5:09 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yeah, just watched it from your link above.

[5:10 PM] Brad Strickland: Mine says I need an app to play it, which evidently I don't got.

[5:10 PM] R.Hookie: Hmmm... it won't play out here...

[5:10 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I opted for download and then opened it with Firefox.

[5:10 PM] R.Hookie: Oh, well, I've seen it

[5:10 PM] Brad Strickland: My computer can't find an app to play a .webm file.

[5:10 PM] Tom Vorce: Same here....says I need to download it first.

[5:10 PM] Brad Strickland: And I don't have Firefox, just Chrome.

[5:11 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Oh well...

[5:11 PM] R.Hookie: You're not mising out on much

[5:11 PM] Laura Leibowitz: In the interest of killing time by shameless name dropping...

[5:11 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Joanna (Jack's youngest granddaughter) and her family came over to my house yesterday.

[5:12 PM] R.Hookie: She was the one at the piano?

[5:12 PM] Laura Leibowitz: That's Joanna's daughter on the piano, Joanna's shooting the video.  So technically it's Jack's great-granddaughter at the piano.

[5:13 PM] R.Hookie: I knew that after I typed it

[5:13 PM] Laura Leibowitz: And two of Jack's great-grandsons, Brandon and Justin were here too.

[5:14 PM] Brad Strickland: Wow!

[5:14 PM] R.Hookie: Was it a good visit?

[5:14 PM] Tom Vorce: Wow! is right!

[5:14 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I think so...they seemed to enjoy the collection.

[5:14 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I think Joanna was a little surprised that I do more than just her grandfather.

[5:15 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Many people say my house is a museum.

[5:15 PM] Brad Strickland: Who else do you, uh, "do?"

[5:15 PM] R.Hookie: There it goes...

[5:15 PM] Brad Strickland: "Their house is a museum, when people come to see 'em, they really are a srea-um,"

[5:15 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Oh, she was asking about an old steamer trunk I have on display with vintage hats, gloves, clothes

[5:16 PM] R.Hookie: I just call that a closet

[5:16 PM] Brad Strickland: Misspelled screa-um. Now, HOW does a person manage to do THAT?

[5:16 PM] Tom Vorce: LOL

[5:16 PM] R.Hookie: snap - snap

[5:16 PM] Laura Leibowitz: OK...I can't remember who requested we do a Suspense show, but I don't believe they're here...

[5:17 PM] Laura Leibowitz: And Brad, I know you don't like the Suspense shows...

[5:17 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Was going to do "Good and Faithful Servant"

[5:17 PM] Brad Strickland: I can take 'em or leave 'em. Jack's just usually subdued in them.

[5:17 PM] Michael Amowitz: Jello folks

[5:17 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hey Mike!

[5:17 PM] R.Hookie: About Rochester?

[5:17 PM] Brad Strickland: Hi, Michael!

[5:18 PM] Tom Vorce: Hi Michael!

[5:18 PM] R.Hookie: Hey Michael

[5:18 PM] Laura Leibowitz: You've been missed, Mike.

[5:18 PM] Laura Leibowitz: So do you want to do the Suspense show, or I can go grab something else.

[5:19 PM] Tom Vorce: I'm fine with whatever you all want to do!

[5:19 PM] R.Hookie: I'm in for anything

[5:19 PM] Laura Leibowitz: OK, let's roll with it then.  Stand by...

[5:19 PM] Brad Strickland: I'm OK with it if everyone else wants to hear it. We just got a severe-weather warning, btw, so I may lose the connection anyhow.

[5:19 PM] R.Hookie: Right now Maude's on in the background

[5:19 PM] Laura Leibowitz: https://www.watch2gether.com/rooms/ijbfc-mbrm7osc3l5p85x3t9

[5:20 PM] Laura Leibowitz: If anyone comes to the chat room with the show in progress, please click the above link to join us!

[5:26 PM] Michael Amowitz: I remember Kovacs and Dutch Masters...can't download the Dutch commercial. I also think I remember this Jack in Suspense episdoe

[5:27 PM] Michael Amowitz: Yeeeessss!

[5:27 PM] Michael Amowitz: episode even

[5:28 PM] HipChat: Hi @Tracy! Welcome to Hipchat. You can @-mention me by typing @HipChat and I'll tell you what HipChat can do!

[5:51 PM] R.Hookie: Rather entertaining

[5:51 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Jack sounds kind of automatic on his lines.

[5:51 PM] Brad Strickland: It was OK, but...subdued.

[5:51 PM] Michael Amowitz: I heard it a few years ago on Radio Spirits

[5:52 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yes, subdued is a good word for it.

[5:52 PM] Brad Strickland: The conclusion was kind of anticlimactic, I thought.

[5:52 PM] Michael Amowitz: I enjoyed it :)

[5:52 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Is there someone who would have played it better?

[5:52 PM] Brad Strickland: The squirrels ruined it for me.

[5:52 PM] Tom Vorce: I recognize Hy Averback, as the main director on the first two seasons of "The Real McCoys."

[5:52 PM] Brad Strickland: Averback and Kearns are all over OTR.

[5:52 PM] Tom Vorce: I enjoyed it, too.

[5:52 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Brad - Drat those squirrels!

[5:53 PM] R.Hookie: Maybe Les Nessman

[5:53 PM] Tom Vorce: I'm a bit ignorant of OTR, I'm afraid!

[5:53 PM] Brad Strickland: I have a squirrel story, much too long to tell, that shows you what devils they are.

[5:53 PM] Tracy: was "Murder in G-Flat" also an episode of Suspense?

[5:53 PM] Laura Leibowitz: In Norma Varden's obit, it listed her working with Jack.

[5:53 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - Sure was!

[5:53 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - Oh my, you've come to the right place to get educated if you want.

[5:53 PM] Tracy: Tom, Don't worry!   This is an awesome hobby!

[5:53 PM] Tom Vorce: That's good!!

[5:53 PM] Brad Strickland: Tom, I listen a lot to Sirius XM and hear a ton of shows I'm not really interested in, but I hear a lot of familiar voices.

[5:54 PM] Tracy: Or...  way more than a hobby for some (me)... more like an obsession!  lol

[5:54 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I had her obit in one of the earliest issues of the Jack Benny Times, and always kept an eye out for them working together.  I think the writer got her mixed up with Verna Felton.

[5:54 PM] Brad Strickland: Once Kearns did the voice of Franklin Delano Roosevelt . . . but he sounded like Dennis the Menace's next-door neighbor, Mr. Wilson.

[5:54 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Seems a lot of people who get into OTR go deep into obsession on it!

[5:54 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Brad - Wrong fireplace, I suppose.

[5:55 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - Did you come to Jack by way of television?

[5:55 PM] Tom Vorce: Yes I did, Laura.

[5:55 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Fireside, more like...

[5:55 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - How much have you heard the radio programs thus far?

[5:55 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Like the regular series?

[5:55 PM] Brad Strickland: I've discovered a few OTR shows I enjoy: Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar. The radio version of Gunsmoke. Jack, of course, and to a lesser degree Burns and Allen. I even chuckle a little at Lum and Abner occasionally.

[5:55 PM] Tracy: It was odd hearing Jack push the woman into the vault.  Even that mild violence seemed strange

[5:56 PM] Tom Vorce: Yes, the regular series.  No, I've heard very little OTR.

[5:56 PM] Tracy: Brad, Jack is by far my favorite, but I love the science fiction too.

[5:56 PM] Brad Strickland: It's not surprising that Jack had kept the fifty thousand intact. It WAS surprising he would so blithely surrender it.

[5:57 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Some day I'll find out what inspired him to start doing Suspense shows.  Maybe it was an invitation from Elliott Lewis, I don't know.

[5:57 PM] Tracy: I can't picture Jack being physical with anyone...

[5:57 PM] Tracy: Maybe he just wanted to do something different?

[5:57 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - You should have seen the big fight in "Buck Benny Rides Again"!

[5:57 PM] Brad Strickland: Speaking of which, I've just directed my first show for the Atlanta Radio Theatre--H.P. Lovecraft's "The Thing on the Doorstep." It will be out soon. Next I'm up to direct "Terrific Park," an adaptation of a George Alec Effinger science-fiction story.

[5:58 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Maybe, but he had his radio series at this time, was on the verge of starting television...he had enough to do.

[5:58 PM] Tracy: I've never seen Jack in any movie except for his cameo in Mad Mad Mad world

[5:58 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Any recommendations from the audience for Tom to branch out into OTR more?

[5:58 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - You haven't seen "To Be or Not To Be"?

[5:59 PM] Brad Strickland: Fred Allen is witty, but I don't enjoy it as much as Jack's shows.

[5:59 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Burns and Allen is a good place to start.

[5:59 PM] Michael Amowitz: I'd say Fred Allen, but all the topical references would fly by :)

[5:59 PM] Brad Strickland: Bob Hope, no, the jokes are stale because they're mostly topical.

[5:59 PM] Tracy: Tom, My first episode of the Jack Benny program was "Wings of a Hawk"...  1953 I think..  I was hooked by that one

[5:59 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Fibber McGee and Molly

[5:59 PM] Tracy: Of course, War of the Worlds... orson welles

[5:59 PM] R.Hookie: I liked George Washington Slept Here

[5:59 PM] Tracy: and the lore with it

[5:59 PM] Michael Amowitz: Burns and Allen is fairly timeless too, LL :)

[5:59 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hookie - I think you and I may be the only ones...

[5:59 PM] Tom Vorce: I like "Burns and Allen" on their TV series, maybe I'll check them out, too.

[6:00 PM] Tracy: Laura, No, nothing!

[6:00 PM] Brad Strickland: "Our Miss Brooks," but that's only because I spent so many years as a teacher and I like Eve Arden's voice.

[6:00 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - To Be...is definitely the pinnacle of Jack's movie career.

[6:00 PM] Tom Vorce: Thanks for the suggestions, everyone.

[6:00 PM] Tracy: Odd... since he is my favorite performer of all time...

[6:01 PM] Tracy: I am curious about "Horn Blows at Midnight" because of all the jokes... lol

[6:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - If you want to start at the top, start there.  And let us know when you're ready for more!

[6:01 PM] R.Hookie: I like Our Miss Brooks too

[6:01 PM] Tracy: Ok, I will watch it and let you know!

[6:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: That's a funny one...I've heard a lot of people say "it's not so bad."

[6:01 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Thoughts from others on Horn?

[6:01 PM] Brad Strickland: Tracy--the "War of the Worlds" that we always hear is a rehearsal recording. Unless it's turned up recently, the broadcast recording seems to be lost.

[6:02 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy/Tom - Actually, you both might be interested to hear the Ford Theatre version of "The Horn Blows at Midnight."

[6:02 PM] Brad Strickland: I've had worse root canals than "Horn."

[6:02 PM] Tom Vorce: I need to watch Jack's movies, too!

[6:02 PM] Laura Leibowitz: A lot of people say that they think it's better than the movie.

[6:02 PM] Tracy: Brad, I've heard that the recording is actually a hasty "post broadcast" recording done the next day.   I'll look into that

[6:02 PM] Brad Strickland: It's funny, actually--but it gets clunky when it goes for physical comedy rather than personality comedy.

[6:02 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - And Omnibus did a TV version.  If you need a disc of it, drop me an E-mail.

[6:02 PM] Michael Amowitz: By me, the movie was better

[6:03 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yeah, Jack doing physical comedy never quite works for me.

[6:03 PM] Brad Strickland: Might be, Tracy. I was surprised to learn it wasn't the broadcast version.

[6:03 PM] Tom Vorce: OK, Laura.

[6:03 PM] Brad Strickland: Well, Laura, most of the physical stuff looked like a not-very-close stunt double was doing it.

[6:03 PM] Michael Amowitz: I'm easily pleased when it comes to Benny

[6:03 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yes, but even the close-up of Jack being doused in the coffee cup.

[6:04 PM] Brad Strickland: Me, too, Mike.

[6:04 PM] Laura Leibowitz: But people do seem to be on the 50+% of it on the rotten tomatoes score....

[6:04 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Haven't looked that up, just saying that from my own experience of hearing people talk about it.

[6:05 PM] Brad Strickland: Sirius recently played the "Your money or your life" show. I was surprised at how crisp the recording seems--and it was the first time I noticed that Jack was suffering from a cold when he did the show.

[6:05 PM] Laura Leibowitz: So what else Benny-wise is on folks' minds?

[6:05 PM] Tracy: Michael, me too actually..

[6:05 PM] Tracy: something about his delivery, gentle humor,...

[6:05 PM] Tracy: makes me happy when I'm listening

[6:05 PM] Michael Amowitz: I enjoyed the great garanddaughter video

[6:05 PM] Brad Strickland: I think Jack could have done very well in a straight role if one had ever come his way. He didn't have a good range, but his voice acting is nuanced and of course splendidly times.

[6:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: They're a great family.

[6:06 PM] Michael Amowitz: oops speling

[6:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: That's one of the distinctions between a comedian and a comedic actor.

[6:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Cary Grant was a comedic actor.

[6:06 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Jack was a comedic actor.

[6:07 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Bob Hope...did he ever do a serious role?

[6:07 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Milton Berle...comedian.

[6:07 PM] Michael Amowitz: I thought he played "To Be or Not to Be" fairly straight :)

[6:08 PM] R.Hookie: Didn't Miltie just steal from others?

[6:08 PM] Tom Vorce: Milton Berle did a good dramatic role on a "Big Valley" episode.

[6:08 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yes...and the role was written for him.  That's why Jack qualifies as a comedic actor.

[6:08 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - Indeed!

[6:08 PM] Tracy: Was watching an old episode of Big Bang Theory with some friends last night.  We marveled at a particular scene where the timing of the characters actions with no dialog was important, and very well done

[6:08 PM] Tracy: made me think of Jack!

[6:08 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I wouldn't be surprised if someone behind the scenes is a fan.

[6:08 PM] Brad Strickland: BTW, I'm reading "The Comedians" by Kliph Nesteroff. The thesis is, succinctly, comedians are usually horrible people. The book has a scant few pages on Jack Benny: Other comedians hated him because he stole their gags. And he was a smuggler! And . . . people have completely forgotten him. And that's about it for Jack.

[6:09 PM] Laura Leibowitz: One of the talking heads on the so-called "History of Comedy."

[6:09 PM] Tom Vorce: Big Bang- one of the few modern day sit-coms that I think is excellent!

[6:09 PM] R.Hookie: I bet that would be Chuck Lorre

[6:09 PM] Laura Leibowitz: History of comedy that had its first episode talking about cursing in comedy.

[6:10 PM] Laura Leibowitz: So history stops around the mid-1960s, I guess.

[6:10 PM] Laura Leibowitz: OK, off my soapbox.

[6:10 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Any requests for next month?

[6:10 PM] Brad Strickland: Nesteroff has long passages on comics I've never heard of being busted repeatedly on morals issues, primarily working blue.

[6:11 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Brad - B.F. Keith was long dead by that time, if you know what I mean.

[6:11 PM] Tracy: Jack, the International Jewelry Smuggler!  lol

[6:11 PM] Laura Leibowitz: He was a patsy...he was just a patsy...

[6:11 PM] Tracy: Hmmmmm...

[6:12 PM] Tracy: lol

[6:12 PM] Brad Strickland: OK, next month . . . how about one from the borrowed-Oscar arc? Maybe not "Your money or your life." The one with Bing Crosby as guest?'

[6:12 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I'm OK with that.

[6:12 PM] Tom Vorce: Any featuring Jack and the Maxwell??  Why he kept it.  Always wondered about that.

[6:12 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tom - Maybe the Just Plain Bill episode...

[6:12 PM] Tracy: Was June Foray ever on his show?  That would be cool to do next month!

[6:12 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Where Jack is looking at the possibility of buying a new car

[6:13 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Tracy - Oh good point...

[6:13 PM] Brad Strickland: Tom, he donated it to the scrap drive in WWII. But I think it turned out to be 4-f and returned after the war was over.

[6:13 PM] Tom Vorce: OK, Laura.

[6:13 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Yeah, the Maxwell reappears with little explanation eventually....

[6:13 PM] Tracy: I wonder if her and Mel ever did anything together?

[6:13 PM] Tom Vorce: LOL, that's fitting, Brad.

[6:13 PM] Brad Strickland: Oh, man, I once saw June Foray on a voice-actors panel. The other talents gave her a standing ovation. They obviously respected and loved her.

[6:13 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Hm...not the regular radio series...

[6:14 PM] Laura Leibowitz: There's one from the TV series, but I don't have it and it's not in circulation...

[6:14 PM] Tracy: bummer

[6:14 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Looks like that's it for June Foray on Jack's regular series.

[6:15 PM] Laura Leibowitz: OK, so how about Just Plain Bill?

[6:15 PM] Brad Strickland: Works for me.

[6:15 PM] Michael Amowitz: Bummer

[6:15 PM] R.Hookie: I'm in for anything

[6:15 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Actually...I'm wondering if I've got my wires crossed....

[6:15 PM] Tom Vorce: I'd like that one, Laura!

[6:15 PM] Tracy: You can't pick something I wouldn't like

[6:16 PM] Laura Leibowitz: I'll go looking for it.  They may have done it on another program.

[6:16 PM] Laura Leibowitz: But I swear I've heard it.

[6:16 PM] Brad Strickland: Weather's kicking up now. I'm gonna sign off. Good night!

[6:16 PM] Laura Leibowitz: OK...let's call it good for tonight then.

[6:16 PM] R.Hookie: Good night Brad

[6:16 PM] Laura Leibowitz: Thanks for stopping, folks!  I'll see you next month.

[6:16 PM] R.Hookie: Good night folks!

[6:17 PM] Tracy: Nite!

[6:17 PM] Tom Vorce: Good night, everyone.  Thanks for your interesting chit-chat!

[6:17 PM] Michael Amowitz: Goodnight y'all!