IJBFC Chat - December 20, 2015

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Judy R

having trouble using chat

4:49 PM

 

Judy R

ok, it's working now

4:49 PM

 

Judy R

:-D

4:51 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hi Judy

5:00 PM

 

Judy R

hi steve :-D

5:00 PM

 

Steve Archer

small crowd tonight!

5:01 PM

 

Judy R

finally it  works! lol. helps to have a new computer

5:01 PM

 

Steve Archer

Were you having trouble with this new software or the previous software?

5:01 PM

 

Judy R

the new. my old computer had a lot of problems.

5:02 PM

 

Steve Archer

I have to say I like this much better than that one with the many virus warnings and the halloween year-round background :-D

5:02 PM

 

Judy R

so true

5:02 PM

 

Steve Archer

Well, glad you are up and running

5:02 PM

 

Judy R

i'm still learning more on the  windows 10. so different

5:03 PM

 

Judy R

thanks :)

5:03 PM

 

Steve Archer

Oh, I haven't upgraded to Windows 10, I am slightly afraid I'll never find anything again.

5:03 PM

 

Judy R

it's tricky. i'm so used to windows 7. now i'm lost on so much change

5:04 PM

 

Steve Archer

Yes, Windows 7 does what I need it to, so why they practically force you to upgrade I don't understand.

5:04 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hi Kathy

5:05 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hmmm.  I wonder if everyone else is out seeing that new Jet Benny movie there is so much fuss about.

5:06 PM

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

hello Steve and Judy! Turns out I can't stay more than a second tonight. But my good news is that I will be liberating the old 1932-33-34 Benny radio scripts and look forward to having details about them for the group, after Jan 11. Hooray! Please ask Laura how the trip to Cuba was, the photos are fantastic!!!!  And I have a question for Laura, is there anything else she wants photos of in the UCLA colleciton. In my wildest dreams I would find Oscarine....

5:07 PM

 

R. Hookie

Hi folks

5:07 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hi Kathy - I think your mark has been made in the transcript.  Sounds great about the scripts

5:08 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hi Hookie

5:08 PM

 

Steve Archer

What's Oscarine?  Margarine for your academy award?

5:08 PM

 

Steve Archer

Sheesh.  Tough crowd.

5:09 PM

 

R. Hookie

Skinny chat tonight?

5:09 PM

 

Steve Archer

How are you Hookie?

5:09 PM

 

R. Hookie

Fine, I almost forgot about tonight

5:09 PM

 

Steve Archer

Judy R was here and disappeared

5:09 PM

 

Steve Archer

Then Kathy had to bug out

5:09 PM

 

R. Hookie

No Laura?

5:09 PM

 

Steve Archer

Not yet, got an email from her yesterday or so ...

5:10 PM

 

Steve Archer

but didn't chat about the chat

5:10 PM

 

R. Hookie

She can't be still jetlagged

5:10 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hi Denny

5:10 PM

 

R. Hookie

Hi Denny

5:11 PM

 

Steve Archer

Maybe Laura's driving the Maxwell to the chat and is still 40 miles away.

5:11 PM

 

R. Hookie

So, in about two hours

5:12 PM

 

Steve Archer

or this time tomorrow!

5:12 PM

 

R. Hookie

That's right, there's no second

5:12 PM

 

Steve Archer

Or maybe she's just where Dennis was

5:13 PM

 

R. Hookie

I'll be back...

5:14 PM

 

R. Hookie

Nothing on Facebook

5:15 PM

 

Judy R

happy hoildays all! *hugs*

5:17 PM

 

Steve Archer

Huh.  Welcome back Judy!

5:17 PM

 

Judy R

sorry, lost connection

5:18 PM

 

R. Hookie

Hi Judy

5:18 PM

 

Judy R

hey all!

5:18 PM

 

Judy R

:)

5:18 PM

 

R. Hookie

I'm getting ready to APB Laura...

5:18 PM

 

Judy R

finally able to get into the chats. we had to get a new computer.

5:19 PM

 

Steve Archer

Well, while we wait anyone interested in seeing pics of the theater where Jack did his Palm Springs broadcasts?

5:20 PM

 

Steve Archer

I was down there two weeks ago and took some snaps.  I'll see if I can make this work.

5:20 PM

 

Judy R

yea :)

5:20 PM

 

R. Hookie

Sure

5:20 PM

 

Steve Archer

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5:20 PM

 

Steve Archer

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5:20 PM

 

Judy R

my maternal grandmother used to live over in palm desert. it was beautiful until they built it up too much

5:21 PM

 

Steve Archer

Jack's mentioned on the plaque

5:21 PM

 

Steve Archer

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5:21 PM

 

Judy R

wow. the plaza is still there?

5:21 PM

 

Steve Archer

Yeah!  I had no idea till I ran into it.

5:21 PM

 

Judy R

I had seen it a couple of thimes when out that way

5:21 PM

 

Judy R

times . lol

5:22 PM

 

Judy R

that's been a long time

5:22 PM

 

Steve Archer

Oddly though Jack doesn't have a star on the Palm Springs walk of fame.

5:22 PM

 

Steve Archer

That needs correcting :)

5:22 PM

 

Judy R

that's strange. you think he would have one

5:23 PM

 

Denny Packard

It is about 2:25 Monday morning here in Paris.

5:23 PM

 

Steve Archer

Especially considering all the people who DO have stars!

5:23 PM

 

Judy R

yea

5:23 PM

 

Steve Archer

Oh my Denny!  Early (or late for you).  Do you live there?

5:23 PM

 

Judy R

brb

5:23 PM

 

Denny Packard

I use Jack's "Christmas Shopping" show in my British and American Humor classes.

5:24 PM

 

Denny Packard

Yes, I have lived in France for 38 years now, but I worked for 13 summers in the U.S.

5:24 PM

 

Steve Archer

Great choice.  

5:25 PM

 

Steve Archer

Everyone here still sends lots of good thoughts and love to the folks in Paris.

5:25 PM

 

Judy R

back. had to feed a brat cat. :)

5:26 PM

 

Denny Packard

Besides the worksheets (to help with comprehension), I have the students vote on who they think the voice of Bugs Bunny is. Rochester, Dennis Day, and Frank Nelson (the floorwalker) usually win!

5:26 PM

 

Steve Archer

How funny!

5:26 PM

 

Judy R

yea, she's a very pushy cat

5:27 PM

 

Steve Archer

What do the students think of the show?  Do they find it funny or dated?

5:27 PM

 

R. Hookie

I'm lucky... Penny's sleeping

5:27 PM

 

Judy R

ba dum dum

5:27 PM

 

Steve Archer

Christmas Shopping I think is such a great introduction to Jack's humor

5:28 PM

 

Judy R

yea. his trying to find a gift for don is funny

5:28 PM

 

Denny Packard

They seem to like the show, although I know they are put off by it being in black and white. Also, it is very different from other comedy shows that they are used to, like "How I Met Your Mother," "Malcom in the Middle," "Fawlty Towers," etc. because Jack does not tell any jokes. Of course, this is one of my objectives in using the show.

5:29 PM

 

Denny Packard

The students like "I Love Lucy" very much, so they have seen a black and white show before.

5:31 PM

 

Judy R

like with me. the kids at my job have no idea who jack or the others were. but, some of my older customers and I do have great conversations about our favorite shows

5:31 PM

 

Steve Archer

What age are the students?

5:31 PM

 

Steve Archer

I think comedy is one of the hardest things to translate across language and cultures.  Of course Lucy has a lot of physical humor, but the verbal is so much harder.

5:32 PM

 

Judy R

even the comedy of jerry lewis in some places.

5:32 PM

 

R. Hookie

Stepping out for a moment...

5:32 PM

 

Denny Packard

They are young adults, most are working for a Master's degree in either business or engineering. One of the main purposes of the required language courses is to help them understand everyday English.

5:33 PM

 

Steve Archer

I am chuckling at the thought of a bunch of young French people walking around saying "Well!" and "Now cut that out!" :)

5:34 PM

 

Judy R

lol

5:34 PM

 

Steve Archer

If that happens we'll return the favor by having a bunch of young LA Thugs walk around like M. Hulot.

5:35 PM

 

Denny Packard

You are correct, Steve, about humor from other cultures being hard to understand. But this is one of the most popular English courses offered. It provides a break from the theoretical brain-loading and it is FUN!

5:36 PM

 

Judy R

relieves some of the tention of the studying

5:37 PM

 

Steve Archer

I am certain it is fun, sounds like a class I would love to take.  

5:37 PM

 

Steve Archer

If they get into Jack you can introduce them to the episode where Jack goes to Paris and tries to learn French.

5:37 PM

 

Judy R

that one was funny

5:37 PM

 

Denny Packard

We also do Monty Python (Dead Parrot Sketch), Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First," "The Big Bang Theory," etc.

5:38 PM

 

Steve Archer

with Maurice Chevalier

5:38 PM

 

Steve Archer

I always thought the dead parrot sketch would have worked with Jack and Frank Nelson.  Can you imagine?

5:38 PM

 

Judy R

ah, Maurice Chevalier. I loved him in "Gigi"

5:38 PM

 

Judy R

hmm.

5:39 PM

 

Judy R

or jack and fred allen

5:39 PM

 

Denny Packard

I don't know that one about Jack coming to France! What season? Where can I get it???? Quick!

5:39 PM

 

Steve Archer

But Polly would have to be sacrificed.

5:39 PM

 

Steve Archer

Let me see if I can find it on youtube

5:39 PM

 

Judy R

lol. mel doing his rendition of Taps

5:39 PM

 

Judy R

why am I picturing this? :-D

5:40 PM

 

Steve Archer

Ah, it doesn't seem to be on youtube.  Laura has it in the club library so she can get it for you.

5:40 PM

 

Denny Packard

Sometimes I also do one or 2 of the "Cy? Si!" sketches with Mel Blanc and Jack. I just have them read the dialogues in pairs. They almost fall on the floor laughing!

5:41 PM

 

Judy R

lol

5:41 PM

 

Steve Archer

Someone tells Jack how to say "I am Jack Benny, star of stage, screen and television": "Je suis Jack Benny, je conduis un camion a ordure" (although shouldn't it be "d'ordure"?)

5:42 PM

 

Judy R

been too long since frech calss

5:42 PM

 

Judy R

sorry french

5:42 PM

 

Denny Packard

"camion d'ordures" is probably correct French.

5:42 PM

 

Steve Archer

24 March 1957 is the date of the show

5:43 PM

 

Steve Archer

the rest of the show has people running away from Jack when he tells them he drives the garbage truck. :)

5:45 PM

 

Judy R

it mentions the episode on dvd of jack benny in france at internet movie database

5:45 PM

 

Denny Packard

Thanks for that date! I'll send an email to Laura. I have already purchased several DVDs from her. I don't recall seeing this episode on any of the Jack Benny DVDs or videocassettes on sale on Amazon.

5:45 PM

 

Judy R

season 7 episode 14

5:46 PM

 

Steve Archer

Around that time there was a series where Jack went to Europe, all good episodes.  Jack goes to Italy and London as well.  The Italian show has a very young Sean Connery in it as a porter.

5:46 PM

 

Denny Packard

I think I saw the show where Jack was in London or Scotland, but that was YEARS ago, like when I was a kid and it was first aired!

5:47 PM

 

Steve Archer

Yes, he gets locked in the Tower of London because he can't tear himself away from looking at the crown jewels.

5:48 PM

 

Judy R

lol.

5:48 PM

 

Denny Packard

The "I Love Lucy" gang also went on a European tour around that time, including a visit to Paris and to Italy, where Lucy tried her "foot" at crushing grapes!

5:49 PM

 

Steve Archer

"Waiter, there are snails in this food!"

5:49 PM

 

Judy R

brb

5:50 PM

 

Denny Packard

What does "brb" mean?

5:50 PM

 

Steve Archer

"Be right back"

5:50 PM

 

Judy R

back

5:51 PM

 

Judy R

what would have been funny, is if jack were to have met someone like Hercules Poirot in a skit.

5:52 PM

 

Steve Archer

I guess there was the Charlie Chan skit.

5:52 PM

 

Judy R

yea, I think there was a legal thing about that

5:53 PM

 

Steve Archer

Well, not sure what happened to Laura, we're almost at the hour mark here.  I wonder if we'll get rescheduled?

5:53 PM

 

Denny Packard

Many years ago I used episodes of "The Lucy Show" and "Here's Lucy" with Jack Benny. "Lucy Gets Jack's Bank Account" and Lucy and her family rent Jack's home in Palm Springs.

5:53 PM

 

Judy R

i think laura mentioned about that some time back

5:53 PM

 

Steve Archer

Yes, Earl Derr Biggers' widow sued the show.

5:53 PM

 

Judy R

yea.

5:53 PM

 

Steve Archer

The bank account one is a classic.  "Here's Lucy" didn't seem to get rerun as much as the Lucy Show.

5:54 PM

 

Judy R

they show "Here's Lucy" on one of the analog channels here.

5:55 PM

 

Denny Packard

All the characters (or almost all of them) in "I Love Lucy" and "The Lucy Show" were very funny. Lucy's children didn't strike me as all that funny, although I didn't see that many episodes.

5:56 PM

 

Judy R

"I Love Lucy" was better

5:57 PM

 

Steve Archer

No, and the format had really grown repetetive and tired by that series.

5:57 PM

 

Judy R

my favorite was the one with Harpo Marx

5:57 PM

 

Steve Archer

Lucy needed at least Vivian to play off of rather than guest star of the week and Gale Gordon.

5:58 PM

 

Judy R

true

5:58 PM

 

Judy R

Gale Gordon was too stiff. He was good in "Our Miss Brooks" though

6:00 PM

 

Steve Archer

I recall seeing an interview with Lucy and she said that when she watched the reruns she "watched it for Viv", and I kind of have to agree, she's great "grounding" for that show and gives it believability.

6:00 PM

 

Denny Packard

I've used the episode with Harpo Marx several times, but "Job Switching" (wrapping chocolates) and "Vitameatavegamin" are gems! I've seen "Job Switching" at least 50 times (NO exaggeration!), and I still laugh. Same with "Christmas Shopping"!

6:00 PM

 

Steve Archer

Oh, yes, love "Our Miss Brooks".  I was so happy to meet Gloria McMillan this year, she's a sweetie.

6:00 PM

 

Judy R

you have to admit though too, the egg in the shirt was hilarious too

6:01 PM

 

Judy R

eggs

6:01 PM

 

Steve Archer

I am also loving the thought of young French people reenacting "Vitameatavegamin"!

6:02 PM

 

Judy R

oooh yea

6:02 PM

 

Denny Packard

The reason I use "Job Switching" the most is because it is a perfect example of "Fish out of Water" and reversals.

6:03 PM

 

Steve Archer

The Pioneer Women one is fun too.  I like the dynamic between the two couples as much as the physical stuff.

6:04 PM

 

R. Hookie

OK... back

6:04 PM

 

Denny Packard

I use "Christmas Shopping" a lot because of all the different characters in the episode.

6:04 PM

 

Judy R

welcome back hookie :)

6:04 PM

 

Steve Archer

Hiya Hookie.  We've temporarily become the Lucille Ball chat.

6:05 PM

 

Judy R

and our miss brooks

6:05 PM

 

R. Hookie

Hmmmm... you guys got some spainin' to do!

6:05 PM

 

Judy R

yea, we's been bad.

6:06 PM

 

Denny Packard

What show are you referring to -- Pioneer women?

6:06 PM

 

Judy R

lol

6:06 PM

 

R. Hookie

No, I'm fine with it

6:06 PM

 

Steve Archer

That is the episode where the "girls" go back to doing things the old-fashioned way (with the giant loaf of bread that comes out of the oven)

6:06 PM

 

Denny Packard

Yes, I know that one.

6:07 PM

 

Judy R

jack with bob hope doing the skit "Road to Nairobi". that one busts me out laughing every time i watch it

6:07 PM

 

Judy R

yea steve

6:07 PM

 

Judy R

BIG oven

6:07 PM

 

Steve Archer

All those ad-ibs would be really challenging for a non-native speaker.

6:07 PM

 

Steve Archer

Our Miss Brooks would be great though, she's so persnickety about the grammar!

6:08 PM

 

Steve Archer

Gracie Allen would be tough to translate.

6:10 PM

 

Judy R

the "Our MIss Brooks" episode with the messed up movies.

6:10 PM

 

Judy R

Ah Gracie. There was genious

6:10 PM

 

Steve Archer

Gracie's last "appearance" was on Jack's program in a voice cameo the year she died.

6:11 PM

 

Steve Archer

I just remembered that for some reason.

6:11 PM

 

Steve Archer

What was the messed up movies episode of OMB Judy?  I'm not remembering that.

6:12 PM

 

Judy R

She could reall ymess up a person's mind

6:12 PM

 

Denny Packard

I have used Burns and Allen a few times, but the radio programs. I have bought many DVDs of their TV shows, but none of them have their routines at the end. When I was a kid, it was their routines at the end of the show that I liked the best.

6:12 PM

 

Steve Archer

I recently watched the two-parter where she was hypnotized into being a genius. Great stuff.

6:13 PM

 

Steve Archer

Denny, most of those self-contained "routines" were in the later seasons of their show.  Most of what is on DVD are the first two live seasons which are in the public domain.

6:13 PM

 

Judy R

yea, steve. the OMB had one where the students got a movie called "The Lady in the LAke. The School board memebers get one that shows gambling

6:14 PM

 

Steve Archer

A lot of the later ones are on you tube now.

6:14 PM

 

Steve Archer

Oh, OK, now I am remembering that one Judy.

6:14 PM

 

Judy R

yea. the students kept rewinding the film.

6:15 PM

 

Steve Archer

They really screwed up the TV OMB when they took her out of Madison High though and revamped the format.  I can't watch those episodes.

6:15 PM

 

Judy R

i like the radio shows, and have the movie on video tape

6:16 PM

 

Steve Archer

The movie is cute.

6:17 PM

 

Steve Archer

Well...any thoughts on Yosemite show #2?

6:18 PM

 

Judy R

well, time for me to beat feet and get some sleep. it's been a long work week for me. *HUGS* and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. :-D

6:18 PM

 

R. Hookie

I was listening to it earlier, enjoyable

6:20 PM

 

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Steve Archer

Bye Judy.  Well, maybe we'll get rescheduled when Laura comes around.

6:20 PM

 

Steve Archer

It's a Jack Benny Jell-O Epic tale!

6:21 PM

 

R. Hookie

Yeah, I wonder where Laura is

6:21 PM

 

R. Hookie

Well, good night, folks! See you next time!

6:23 PM

 

Denny Packard

I didn't get a chance to listen to it.

6:24 PM

 

Steve Archer

OK, well, I suppose I shall beg off too.  I'll shoot Laura a message. Good chatting with you Hookie, and Joyeux Nol et Bonne Anne Denny!

6:24 PM

 

Denny Packard

Same to you!