IJBFC Chat - May 10, 2015

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ian kerr
May-8 9:24 PM
hiho everybody!
g'day from oz. even today the process of a radio/tv show remains the template JB and co set up. from cheeers to seinfeld the strength of good writing and wit reigns supreme.
eternally funny. i see our ozzie humour based on britsh laughs and JB respectful fun, mocking the establishment, is the epitome of really great humour.

R. Hookie

5:01 PM

Hi folks

Hi Kathy

 

Perri Harper

5:01 PM

(standup)Hello!

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:01 PM

Hello.

 

andrew rabatin

5:02 PM

hi  all

 

Laura Leff

5:02 PM

Aha!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:02 PM

howdy

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:02 PM

This is my first Jack Benny chat

 

R. Hookie

5:02 PM

Hi folks!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:02 PM

welcome Gregory!

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:02 PM

Thanks

 

Laura Leff

5:02 PM

Did I miss anything?

 

Steve Archer

5:02 PM

Hi Al

All

 

R. Hookie

5:03 PM

Just Hi everyone...

 

Laura Leff

5:03 PM

Hey Kathy...I liked your sentiment on the Facebook page...mind repeating it here?

In observation of Mother's Day?

Hi Mike!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:03 PM

I was laughing to remember the Mother's Day shows they would open with "and here's to the fellow who is mother to us all"..

 

Laura Leff

5:03 PM

Hi Steve!

 

Michael Amowitz

5:03 PM

Jello folks!

 

Steve Archer

5:04 PM

Big crowd tonight!

 

Laura Leff

5:04 PM

Conjures up images of Jack in his Charley's Aunt costume, doesn't it?

 

R. Hookie

5:04 PM

Jello to you too

 

Laura Leff

5:04 PM

Welcome all the folks who are new to the room!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:04 PM

and yeah, it makes me think that "mother" should include all the folks (of every gender) who look out for others : )

 

Laura Leff

5:04 PM

I'll vote for that.

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:04 PM

I have a question: Did Jack Benny ever meet or interact with fellow Waukeganite Ray Bradbury?

 

R. Hookie

5:04 PM

Good question

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:04 PM

oh cool, Ray Bradbury was from Waukegan!

 

Laura Leff

5:05 PM

That's a really good question.  I think Ray had a story about them interacting, but I think it was debunked.

When was Bradbury born?

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:05 PM

He was over 90 when he died recently

 

Michael Amowitz

5:05 PM

I forgot I'd heard that last week, can't remember where it came up

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:06 PM

Born 1920

 

Laura Leff

5:06 PM

And by the way, to say this up front...I want to make sure that everyone feels included in the discussion.  So if there's anything I can do to help you jump into the thread, let me know!

Thanks Gregory.  OK, so let's see...

He couldn't have known Jack at the Great Lakes Naval Center

 

R. Hookie

5:06 PM

Somewhere deep in my classic commercial collection I have Ray Bradbury in a prune ad

 

Laura Leff

5:06 PM

Would have almost have to have crossed paths with him on a trip home during the radio years.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:06 PM

hey thank you, Laura, for posting this to the Facebook group, its always a great prompt to get folks here

 

Laura Leff

5:06 PM

Hookie - I know that ad.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:07 PM

I'm usually not home (dialysis most often Sunday nights), but I get here when I can

 

Laura Leff

5:07 PM

I noticed that the last time...I didn't realize people were getting notifications!

Glad to have you here, Mike.   :)

And hello to Theodore and Andrew as well...

 

Michael Amowitz

5:07 PM

Glad to follow along where I can, LL :)

 

Laura Leff

5:08 PM

So what thoughts on the show for this month?

 

Steve Archer

5:08 PM

What is the Ray B prune ad?  The Constipation Chronicles?

 

Laura Leff

5:08 PM

Prunes without the wrinkles, IIRC.

 

R. Hookie

5:08 PM

He says he never wrote about prunes

 

Laura Leff

5:08 PM

It's a Stan Freberg joint.

 

Perri Harper

5:08 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5NxG_rr5aU

Video

5:08 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A5NxG_rr5aU/default.jpg

Ray Bradbury Prunes Commercial

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Laura Leff

5:08 PM

There ya go.

 

Steve Archer

5:08 PM

Wow! What we can do with this new chat

 

Laura Leff

5:09 PM

Yeah, ain't it the nuts?

 

R. Hookie

5:09 PM

It would have taken me forever to dig up the spot on one of my many DVDs

 

Laura Leff

5:09 PM

Or dates without nuts if you prefer.

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:10 PM

Great commercial!

 

R. Hookie

5:10 PM

Those are the only dates I've had lately

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:10 PM

Palm Springs dates for all, on Mother's Day!

 

Steve Archer

5:10 PM

Wow, that was hilarious.  Go Ray.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:10 PM

I'm nuts with or without dates

 

Steve Archer

5:10 PM

I briefly met him once but didn't ask him about Jack.

 

Laura Leff

5:10 PM

Yes, I'm told he had a few other pursuits.

 

R. Hookie

5:11 PM

I'm sorry if I took the chat away from Jack

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:11 PM

Laura, what was the episode we were supposed to listen to? I now sound like my students who ask so what were we supposed to read for this class session

 

Laura Leff

5:11 PM

Say, this isn't about the show, but I've had a couple people say to me recently that they wished the statue of Jack was in Chicago instead of Waukegan.

 

Perri Harper

5:11 PM

yes!  but hey, they have EVERYTHING on YT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXO0eyzTFYQ

Video

5:11 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VXO0eyzTFYQ/default.jpg

Jack Benny radio show 5/5/40 Clown Hall Tonight

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FrankNelsonNet

 

Laura Leff

5:11 PM

Kathy - Clown Hall Tonight

Thanks!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:11 PM

Let's put one in chicago!

which one, the 1936 one?

 

Laura Leff

5:11 PM

Yay!  Who's going to pay for it!   :)

Kathy - Nah, the 5/5/40 one.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:11 PM

Jack always enjoys doing Fred Allen, using a clothespin on his nose

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:12 PM

ah HA the 1940 one.  Let's make a holographic one

 

Steve Archer

5:12 PM

Do you think he put a clothespin on for the studio audience for real?

 

Laura Leff

5:12 PM

Does anyone other than Dick Cavett do a more spot-on Fred Allen impersonation?

I get the sense that he did.  It would be visually funny.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:12 PM

Benny and the gang were really riding high after the Buck Benny premiere in March, to come back to NY again that May

 

R. Hookie

5:12 PM

Cardboard cutout would be cheaper

 

Laura Leff

5:13 PM

Try sounding that nasal WITHOUT a clothespin on your nose.

 

Steve Archer

5:13 PM

I'd think a clothespin would hurt after a couple of minutes!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:13 PM

Jack's impersonation is so funny!!!! He rarely impersonated anybody else, so it was a special tribute

 

Laura Leff

5:13 PM

They often came to NY at the end of the season, can't recall why this one came early.

He impersonated Jackie Gleason later on television.

And Mary does a pretty dead-on Portland too.

 

Steve Archer

5:14 PM

And that was good too - you can tell he really studied Gleason and Allen's mannerisms.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:14 PM

Maybe this is when Jack and Mary sailed to Londoon?

 

R. Hookie

5:14 PM

He was eating cat food I think

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:14 PM

Where was the Ritz Theater located in NY?

 

Michael Amowitz

5:14 PM

-o

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:14 PM

Jack and the cast had a long New York hiatus with the premiere, Eddie Anderson even had the chance to get kidnapped in Boston, in the weeks between NY shows

 

Laura Leff

5:14 PM

Mike - In 1940...doubt it.

They did sail in 1952.

Ah, that's right!  Good point, Kathy!

 

R. Hookie

5:15 PM

Roch was kidnapped?

 

Michael Amowitz

5:15 PM

I remembered it being later, but mom sailed on the same cruise, I think with her mother

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:15 PM

The show was broadcast from the Ritz Theater, is why I ask

 

Laura Leff

5:15 PM

Hey Perri...can't remember if I've seen you say anything yet.  So glad to have you here!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:15 PM

yeah, DOH they didn't leave and come back, they stayed in NY the whole time, I will have to dig out the FANTASTIC reference book 39 Forever Vol1 to get straight.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:16 PM

I never thought about what year, but the war years would have been out of it.

 

Laura Leff

5:16 PM

:D

 

Perri Harper

5:16 PM

Hi Laura -- I am SO happy to be here!  I just hate myself when I forget.

 

R. Hookie

5:16 PM

Perri found the prune commecail

 

Laura Leff

5:16 PM

Who knew immediately when the street cleaner came on who it was?

 

R. Hookie

5:16 PM

commercial

 

Laura Leff

5:16 PM

Ah, right!  Thanks again!

 

Perri Harper

5:16 PM

Heh, yes and was surprised when it popped right in there!

new chat rocks!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:17 PM

Oh the kidnapping story is great!!!! Some Harvard students invited him up to perform at an event, and some MIT students kidnapped him at the plane switch in Providence, took him to their fraternity house, brought him to Harvard at midnight,......college boy riot ensued

 

Laura Leff

5:17 PM

It took a while to find a good one, but I think we may have.

 

R. Hookie

5:17 PM

paper scissors

 

Laura Leff

5:17 PM

Oh, those crazy Harvard kids.

I'm surprised they didn't make mention of it, like Rochester getting lost at sea.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:18 PM

Benny Boston roch huge crowd May 40.pdf33K

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:18 PM

it was a local thing, great fun to find out about it in the Boston newspapers

 

Laura Leff

5:19 PM

Cool!

I don't get asked about it much, so the details tend to fade on me.

 

Perri Harper

5:19 PM

Oooo, thanks Kathy!

 

Michael Amowitz

5:19 PM

Great article, Kathy

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:19 PM

well, Eddie deserves an entire book, if only I had more stuff.....

 

Laura Leff

5:19 PM

And by the way...if anyone didn't listen to the show but has a Benny-related topic you'd like to discuss, feel free to throw it out.  We're a pretty agile group.

Kathy - Oh man, ain't that just so?  He and Don are enigmas.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:20 PM

Benny Boston roch riot day 1 May 40.pdf150K

 

Laura Leff

5:20 PM

You know there's plenty of story there, but hard to find people who know much of it.

 

Steve Archer

5:20 PM

thanks for the articles Kathy!  Saving them to read later

 

Laura Leff

5:20 PM

With Rochester and his high living with racehorses, cars, boats

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:20 PM

Are there any Jack Benny TV commercials (as opposed to the ones by cast members or himself done on his program itself)?

 

Laura Leff

5:21 PM

And Don with his multiple marriages.

Hi Phil!

5:21 PM

 

Phil Curry joined the room

 

R. Hookie

5:21 PM

Texaco

 

Phil Curry

5:21 PM

Hello

 

Laura Leff

5:21 PM

Gregory - You mean for the program itself?

 

Steve Archer

5:21 PM

Hi Phil

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:21 PM

I mean like Ray Bradbury's prune one

 

Laura Leff

5:21 PM

Rather than the sponsor's product?

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:21 PM

For other products

 

Laura Leff

5:21 PM

Hmmmm

Even Texaco was in conjunction with the TV specials.

 

Steve Archer

5:22 PM

Sometimes when Jack was guesting on other programs he'd join in their commercials

 

Laura Leff

5:22 PM

I can think of a bunch of print ads, but not TV commercials.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:22 PM

if Gregory is asking about commercials for the Jack Benny program, its CRIMINAL that NBC spent about 50 cents to advertise their best show. CBS did a bit better during its tenure

 

Steve Archer

5:22 PM

Hey, he even pushed Sal Hepatica on tonight's show!

 

Gregory Zeigerson

5:22 PM

OK

 

Laura Leff

5:22 PM

Hey, what was the one that Lynn posted on Facebook recently...Jack boosting for Quaker Puffed Wheat, shot from guns?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:23 PM

has anybody ever seen a bottle of Sal Hepatica? I rummage through antique shops all the time, never seen a bottle or can

 

Laura Leff

5:23 PM

I've not.  It was a laxative, wasn't it?

 

Steve Archer

5:23 PM

Indeed

 

Laura Leff

5:23 PM

Picks you up when you're low, calms you down when you're blocked?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:24 PM

you bet, Laura! today it would be yogurt

 

Steve Archer

5:24 PM

It's funny, they had to be so so circumspect about what the product actually does, you'd never know.

 

Laura Leff

5:24 PM

Sal Hepatica...Activia..there is a phonetic similarity!

 

R. Hookie

5:25 PM

I think Jack and Dennis did a savings bond PSA, but I can't find it in my collection

 

Laura Leff

5:25 PM

Well, they couldn't even say "pregnant" on Lucy's show.  I don't know how they would have described it.  "Constipated" would probably have drawn some censor scrutiny.

5:25 PM

 

Tracy Allred joined the room

 

Laura Leff

5:25 PM

Ipana for the smile of beauty...Sal Hepatica for the smile of health.

 

R. Hookie

5:25 PM

Hi Tracy

 

Laura Leff

5:25 PM

Hi Tracy!

 

Michael Amowitz

5:25 PM

lol, what a tough position to be in?

 

Phil Curry

5:25 PM

There are several bottles of it on eBay

 

Tracy Allred

5:25 PM

Jello everyone!

 

Steve Archer

5:25 PM

Hi Tracy

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:26 PM

so, to ask a question about Benny and Allen, does anybody know of a comedic rivalry as enduring, funny or useful as theirs?

 

Michael Amowitz

5:26 PM

Jello Tracy

 

Laura Leff

5:26 PM

Well, I don't know that I've ever run into a radio ad for Kotex.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:26 PM

yum, let's get some Sal Hepatica! sounds like a character on the Sopranos

 

Laura Leff

5:26 PM

Ha!

Hi Jesse!

5:26 PM

Jesse Green joined the room

 

Laura Leff

5:27 PM

Hey Sal...loosen him up a bit.

 

Steve Archer

5:27 PM

LOL

 

R. Hookie

5:27 PM

This is the most we've had for a while!

 

Laura Leff

5:27 PM

But to your question on the feud...

Yeah...it's a lesson to me to send out reminders!

Welcome everyone!  So glad to have a lot of folks here!  If there's anything I can do to make your stay more enjoyable, just ask.

So re the feud...

What other comedic feuds can you think of?

 

Steve Archer

5:28 PM

Milton Berle and everyone?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:28 PM

I love the feud, ESPECIALLY in the years after 1937 (the original). Jack and Fred turned it into amazing history of vaudeville

 

Laura Leff

5:28 PM

Well put.

Wasn't it Walter Winchell and Ben Bernie who hated each other?  As well as Louella Parsons and Hedda Hopper?  But those were kind of real feuds.

Jack and Fred was purely comedic and they had tremendous respect for one another.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:29 PM

I would think this was the first "feud" of its kind

 

Tracy Allred

5:29 PM

Well...  Martin and Lewis, but their feud was real!

 

Laura Leff

5:29 PM

We could say that of Abbott and Costello as well.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:29 PM

yes!!!! But Jack and Fred turned it into so much more by going back in time, instead of a today's tit for tat

 

Phil Curry

5:29 PM

Right now, Jon Lovitz and Andy Dick. It's a real fed no... They hate each other..

 

Laura Leff

5:30 PM

Kathy - It definitely started as that though.

 

Tracy Allred

5:30 PM

I just learned that Abbott was basically Costello's employee.  Costello was the one with the business acumen.

 

Laura Leff

5:31 PM

Then after the gags of "Jack Benny isn't cheap, he just has short arms and keeps his money low in his pockets" and "Fred Allen looks like a butcher peeping over two pounds of liver" got repetetive, they took it in other directions.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:31 PM

maybe I could put it up on the IJBFC website, I took pictures of Fred's script pages during the 1936-7 feud, he would save out a place in the script for last-minute Benny insults

 

Laura Leff

5:31 PM

Kathy - Oh yeah...I have copies of them as well.  Was transcribing them for a while in the Times, but then the recordings came out and I stopped.

 

Steve Archer

5:31 PM

that would be fun to see.

 

Laura Leff

5:32 PM

Tracy - I'm not sure that's really true...where did you hear/read that?

Tracy - About Abbott being Costello's employee.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:32 PM

YES Laura, that's when it got marvelous! when they moved beyond the most obvious jokes to lambast each others' program format, or vaudeville history'

 

Tracy Allred

5:32 PM

Hmmmm...   I'm not sure at the moment, but I'm positive that I read that recently.

 

Laura Leff

5:32 PM

Are there any other feuds where the "feuders" don't actually hate each other?

 

Steve Archer

5:33 PM

Sad Fred passed on so early, it would have been fun to see the feud continue on (more) into TV and the Dean Martin roast era, etc.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:33 PM

you bet, Steve!

 

R. Hookie

5:33 PM

Endora and Uncle Arther

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:33 PM

Seinfeld and Newman

 

Phil Curry

5:33 PM

Jackie Mason and Ed Sullivan

 

Steve Archer

5:33 PM

Fred and Aunt Esther

 

Tracy Allred

5:33 PM

I think the article claimed that it evolved into that.

 

Laura Leff

5:33 PM

Tracy - I highly recommend Chris Costello's "Lou's on First."  While she has bias because she's his daughter, I think it balances out some of the books that were very critical of Costello (e.g., Bud and Lou).

 

Michael Amowitz

5:34 PM

fibber mcgee and throckmorton gildersleeve

 

Tracy Allred

5:34 PM

Cool!  Thanks!

 

Laura Leff

5:34 PM

Phil - Jackie Mason held a pretty strong grudge against Sullivan though.

 

R. Hookie

5:34 PM

George Jefferson and Archer Bunker

 

Phil Curry

5:34 PM

Yes, it really damaged his career

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:34 PM

its actually interesting that Benny did NOT do a feud with Frank Nelson, who annoyed him so

 

Laura Leff

5:34 PM

Hookie - Oh, you beat me to it!!!!

 

R. Hookie

5:35 PM

Sorry

 

Tracy Allred

5:35 PM

Laura, I read that article debunking the "panic" after the War of the Worlds.

 

Laura Leff

5:35 PM

Kathy - Well, Jack doesn't really fight back that often.

 

Steve Archer

5:35 PM

And Frank's a supporting character rather than another A-list comedian

 

Laura Leff

5:35 PM

Tracy - Ah yes, what did you think?  BTW, I do have a comment from Joan for you.  Just have had to focus on rehearsing singing for our concert next weekend.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:35 PM

exactly, the Jack character was not a "feudin" kind of guy, unless it involved Hatfields and McCoys

 

Laura Leff

5:36 PM

And hey, Kathy, you may be the only other one in the room who's actually seen the pre-feud script with Fred and Portland as guests on Jack's radio show doing a Hatfields and McCoys sketch!

 

R. Hookie

5:36 PM

Why did Walter Brennan pop into mind?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:36 PM

oh that one is adorable!

 

Laura Leff

5:37 PM

Yes, it's maddening that it's such a good script, and it's one of the lost 1935 episodes IIRC.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:37 PM

I just remember the sketch

 

Tracy Allred

5:37 PM

It was an interesting perspective.  However, I believe that just as 6 million people believing and "panicing" would probably be tough to substantiate, I think the article's claim that it virtually didn't happen is just as unlikely.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:37 PM

Laura, but that time wasn't it the women against the men? hahah funny

 

Tracy Allred

5:37 PM

And WOW!!!!   COOL!!!!

I can't wait to see!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:37 PM

let's get that one, and all the others, scanned and on the website'

 

Laura Leff

5:38 PM

Kathy - Hmmmm...I'll have to go back to my notes.  It's been a while since I read it.

Hey, I'm game for it!

5:38 PM

Jesse Green left the room (user disconnected)

 

R. Hookie

5:39 PM

Brad's not here?

 

Laura Leff

5:39 PM

So linking the question of how many people panicked at War of the Worlds, how many people do you think really thought Jack and Fred were feuding?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:39 PM

hey, re: panic, it DID happen, from what I can tell, but to just certain people in certain places, young folks on the east coast, especially. I think more in the thousands, rather than millions

 

Tracy Allred

5:40 PM

I have a friend who is a recognized historian in this area and he told me that his grandparents and many friends and neighbors were terrified!   (more)

 

Laura Leff

5:40 PM

Or maybe the hundreds.  I had sent Tracy a link to a recent article claiming it barely happened at all.

 

R. Hookie

5:40 PM

Just like the Johnny Carson toilet paper shortage

 

Laura Leff

5:41 PM

Wow, Hookie...you stopped the chat in its tracks.

;)

 

R. Hookie

5:41 PM

It was me?!?

 

Tracy Allred

5:41 PM

They all gathered all their weapons and the lot of them hid under a bridge over the Occoli river in East Tennessee!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:41 PM

east coast people who tuned in while Nelson Eddy started singing on the Bergen/McCarthy show, and switched stations to hear what they thought was Frankln Roosevelt say "run!" did!

 

Laura Leff

5:41 PM

It may be sort of like "Your money or your life was the longest laugh ever on radio."  BALDERDASH.

Tracy-  Wow!  Talk about primary resource material!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:42 PM

Media history is full of this BS, we need much better and more careful history

 

Laura Leff

5:42 PM

I know a lot of you have heard me say this, but "Your money or your life" wasn't even the longest laugh on that SHOW.

Kathy - Amen, amen, and amen.

 

Tracy Allred

5:42 PM

I can't imagine that many people really thought Jack and Fred disliked each other!  lol

 

Laura Leff

5:43 PM

Actually...this just sparked a memory that I haven't recalled in probably 30 years...I'm sure everyone's heard the story of me starting the club with a friend's comment of "It's better to light one candle than to curse the darkness."

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:43 PM

I love the photos I find on ebay and stuff about soldiers during WW2 welcoming Benny to their camps with a "welcome Fred Allen" banner. YES I agree Tracy that everyone thought it was a great joke

 

R. Hookie

5:44 PM

Too easy to twist facts and embellish

 

Laura Leff

5:44 PM

An earlier part of that conversation was her talking about how she would never forgive Fred Allen for the mean things he'd said about Jack.

 

Tracy Allred

5:44 PM

Rochester got a huge laugh on the "Sťance" show in 1954.   Lasted at least as long at the "money or life" laugh!

 

Laura Leff

5:44 PM

Tracy - What was the line that inspired it?

(previous comment) And I was so young at the time and just getting exposed to Fred Allen, and I loved Jack so much that at first I HATED Fred!

I have since acquired better context.

So what else on the show for this month?

Jack's actually using a few of Fred's supporting cast in the minor roles.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:46 PM

I've mentioned this before, but I did get to ask Steve Martin, who loved Jack Benny, what he thought of Fred Allen. I was amazed that he didn't think Fred was funny. It may have had to do with the topical timeliness of Fred's material. Fred was dad's favorite.

 

Laura Leff

5:47 PM

And the whole part with multiple things going on simultaneously (Mary calling her mother, Jack talking with Don looking for Dennis, etc.) is unusually complex for their normal script structure.

 

Michael Amowitz

5:47 PM

I enjoyed The Merry Mugs

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:47 PM

well, Fred's health was bad, and I guess behind the scenes he was talking of having to quit. I admire Jack for taking on Minerva Pious when Fred was off the air (oops that might be 42)

 

Tracy Allred

5:47 PM

During the sťance, the medium said something about receiving a message from beyond.   Rochester, who had been a very very reluctant participant said something like "if it's for me, tell him to just slide it under the door".

5:47 PM

 

Gregory Zeigerson left the room (user disconnected)

 

Laura Leff

5:47 PM

Mike - Agreed.  You have to be a bit of a historian to get Fred's jokes today.

 

Tracy Allred

5:47 PM

the joke had been building for a while and the laugh was very long as I remember!

 

Laura Leff

5:48 PM

Tracy - You know I've got a page on long laughs, right?

 

Steve Archer

5:48 PM

Oh yeah, Tracy, I remember that one.  Slip it under the door!

 

Tracy Allred

5:49 PM

Steve, that right! thanks!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:49 PM

intrestingly, Fred did not have continuing characters on his show, so much. Other than the trips to Allen's Alley, the Mighty Allen Art Players did different things all the time. So other than Portland (who did not appear in the skits) Allen had a different show than Jack

 

Steve Archer

5:49 PM

Why here it is: http://www.jackbenny.org/biography/other/longest_laugh.htm

 

Michael Amowitz

5:49 PM

I'm old enough to remember a lot of the products and know the topics in context, so it was always hilarious to me. They were both great ad ad libs

 

Tracy Allred

5:49 PM

Laura, no I didn't!

 

Laura Leff

5:49 PM

Hey Theodore and Andrew...want to make sure you have a chance to get in on the discussion as well.  Feel free to ask anything about Jack or his associates!

Thank you, Steve.   :)

 

Michael Amowitz

5:49 PM

at ad libs, but I expect Jack was a lot more reluctant to go there

He had a lot of fun mocking Fred's ad libbing in this show

 

Laura Leff

5:50 PM

Jack sweated so much on the editing of his show, and Fred didn't sweat enough on it.

 

andrew rabatin

5:50 PM

Still working on the Sal Hepatica

 

Laura Leff

5:50 PM

Andrew - Ha!  OK, carry on!

 

andrew rabatin

5:50 PM

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Laura Leff

5:51 PM

Good job!

It's kind of funny, since the stomach naturally has acid for digestion.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:51 PM

yum, Andrew! Eventually vitamins and fiber would be invented, until then, Sal Hepatica!

 

Steve Archer

5:51 PM

The guy in the top left is getting a little aggressive with that Hepatica!

 

Laura Leff

5:51 PM

Apple cider vinegar also does it.

 

Phil Curry

5:52 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sal-Hepatica-laxative-in-orignal-box-/261865355318?pt=LH_DefaultDoma...

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:52 PM

I bet it still works just as good as 80 years ago, Phil!

 

Laura Leff

5:52 PM

That's not even that old, with the zip code on it.

Love it...the condition is USED.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:52 PM

doh

 

andrew rabatin

5:53 PM

Good eye

 

Steve Archer

5:53 PM

Anyone up to pay $18.95 for an used laxative?

 

Laura Leff

5:53 PM

Hey, who wants to buy some used laxative!!!!

 

Phil Curry

5:53 PM

There are old bottles on eBay also

 

Laura Leff

5:53 PM

Hey, let's see one of them.

Any from Fred's vintage?

 

5:54 PM

 

Josef Silvia joined the room

 

Laura Leff

5:54 PM

Hi Josef!

 

Steve Archer

5:54 PM

A laxative might be one of the only medicines that gets MORE potent after it expires....

 

Josef Silvia

5:54 PM

Hi Laura!

 

R. Hookie

5:54 PM

Hi Josef

 

andrew rabatin

5:54 PM

How true

 

Steve Archer

5:54 PM

Hiya Josef

 

Laura Leff

5:54 PM

Josef - I swear this discussion of used laxatives is on topic.

 

Josef Silvia

5:54 PM

Hi Hookie, and Steve

 

Tracy Allred

5:54 PM

LOL

 

Josef Silvia

5:54 PM

wow. That's a digression :)

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:54 PM

its digestion

 

Steve Archer

5:54 PM

It would be hilarious if you searched for Sal Hepatica on ebay and up came a picture of Dennis Day

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:54 PM

!!

 

Steve Archer

5:54 PM

We'd be the only ones to get the joke.

 

Josef Silvia

5:55 PM

LOL steve

 

Laura Leff

5:55 PM

We were talking about Sal Hepatica, and it just kind of...rolled downhill...

 

Josef Silvia

5:55 PM

Gotcha

 

R. Hookie

5:55 PM

I've got a half empty bottle of Pepto if anyones interested

 

Laura Leff

5:55 PM

And I might not get it if I hadn't heard this show recently!

 

Michael Amowitz

5:55 PM

As a kid, I figured Sal had to be a guy

 

Laura Leff

5:55 PM

Hookie - I may have one as well, probably expired.  We can put them together and make a full one, and you can sell it on Ebay as used.

For $18.95.

 

R. Hookie

5:56 PM

plus shipping

 

Laura Leff

5:56 PM

Sal Hepatica, not to be confused with Sal Mineo.

 

Tracy Allred

5:56 PM

I haven't been in this chat for quite a while.   As long a used laxatives is a typical topic, I swear I'll be back more often!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:56 PM

hooray for regularity

 

Michael Amowitz

5:56 PM

:)

 

Laura Leff

5:57 PM

LOL

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

5:57 PM

we haven't mentioned the curative properties of Jell-O   my grandmother gave me warm red jello (not set up) for an upset stomach

 

Josef Silvia

5:57 PM

I haven't been around in a while, Sundays have been crazy.  Glad to be back.

 

Laura Leff

5:57 PM

Yeah, we've got a great cross-section of people here from the two chat time periods, and new folks.  This is great!

 

Josef Silvia

5:58 PM

yay!

 

R. Hookie

5:58 PM

I just checked... it's a near empty bottle that expired 7 years ago

 

Laura Leff

5:58 PM

OK, let's throw it open.  What Benny-wise is on everyone's mind tonight?  Basic questions also cheerfully accepted.

 

Tracy Allred

5:58 PM

I have fun talking with my students about "Ironized Yeast".   .... to help you put on weight!   Not a product that would do well today!

 

Phil Curry

5:58 PM

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Laura Leff

5:59 PM

Or gelatin to grow stronger nails, which might still do well.

 

R. Hookie

5:59 PM

Wow, I've had that Pepto longer than I had my house....

 

Laura Leff

5:59 PM

Hey waitaminnit...Sal Hepatica is kind of like Bromo Seltzer!

 

Josef Silvia

5:59 PM

Yeah, I have a question. What is the origin of the Goldie, Fields and Glide routine? I just rewatched it for Mother's Day.

 

Steve Archer

6:00 PM

Oh!

 

Laura Leff

6:00 PM

Aha...excellent question, Josef!

 

Phil Curry

6:00 PM

I've got some Kings Men toiletries that my grandparents won on a radio show in Chicago back in the 40s

 

Laura Leff

6:00 PM

Who wants to take it!

 

Josef Silvia

6:00 PM

Thanks

 

Steve Archer

6:00 PM

I know that one Josef.  Goldie, Fields and Glyde - spelled that way

Was George Burns' act as a really young kid.

 

Laura Leff

6:00 PM

Phil - Cool!

 

Tracy Allred

6:00 PM

Benny questions?  I always wonder about the later radio shows.  Do you think he put as much effort into those as his tv program was evolving?

 

Josef Silvia

6:00 PM

Oh wow.

 

Laura Leff

6:00 PM

And I stumbled across a review of the act in Variety.  It was not good.

 

Phil Curry

6:00 PM

Even have a recording of the show, it was on a paper record..

 

Laura Leff

6:01 PM

Tracy - I'll take that one.

 

Josef Silvia

6:01 PM

Phil-That's cool.

 

Laura Leff

6:01 PM

They hired on Hal Goldman and Al Gordon in 1948 initially to write the spin-off of "The Private Life of Rochester Van Jones."

Which they did.

And then they got involved in writing the radio shows, especially when they had to split up and focus on writing the periodic television eps.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:02 PM

what, one week of Rochester episodes

 

Laura Leff

6:02 PM

And as the television programs got more frequent, they took over most of the radio script work by basically harvesting gags from old scripts on the weeks when the other writers were doing the television script.

 

Tracy Allred

6:03 PM

The shows seem just as funny, but ....  well, less important maybe?  The sound of the band seems to get thinner and thinner.   As if they are hiring fewer and fewer musicians

 

Laura Leff

6:03 PM

Kathy - Yes, not long-lived.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:03 PM

it amazes me that Jack didn't hire a dozen writers, it took Bob Hope at least six

you are so right, Tracy! The fun is in finding the later episodes that are still amazing

 

Laura Leff

6:03 PM

Most of the musicians actually stayed with Jack.  It's just that without Phil, they became more of a laughing section than a playing section.

 

Phil Curry

6:03 PM

2 writers did the first half of the show and the other 2 the second half

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:04 PM

the late ones were the first I ever heard, so I have a forever crush on Piolly the parrot

 

Laura Leff

6:04 PM

Tracy - You'll notice if you listen in sequence that when the TV show is biweekly, every other week is recycled stuff.  So the non-TV weeks get the better scripts.

Phil - Correct.  Say more about that!

 

Josef Silvia

6:04 PM

I fell in love with Benny from the later episodes as well.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:05 PM

and if we could inter-leave the two, its amazing how often Jack mentions the TV show on radio, or vice versa!

 

Laura Leff

6:05 PM

The first ones I heard were from 1948.  But I fell in love with the cartoon first.

 

Michael Amowitz

6:05 PM

I watched the tv shows as a kid

 

Steve Archer

6:05 PM

The one thing I do like about those later shows when they're recycling a lot of the gags is that there is usually some little refinement or polish done on the old jokes, like they're seeing if they can squeeze out just a little bigger laugh than it got before.

 

Laura Leff

6:05 PM

Oh hey...back on the feud, who here has seen "Love Thy Neighbor?"

 

Steve Archer

6:05 PM

I find that really interesting.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:05 PM

I got my first cassettes from some guy I think in Washington STate and all he had were the later ones. And the cartoon!!!!!

 

Michael Amowitz

6:05 PM

the cartoon struck me later, lol

 

Josef Silvia

6:06 PM

The first Jack Benny cassette I head was his fist show for Canada Dry and last show from Lucky Strike.

 

Laura Leff

6:06 PM

My first shows came from Nostalgia Lane.   :)

 

R. Hookie

6:06 PM

I have Love Thy Neighbor on DVD

6:06 PM

 

Phil Curry left the room (user disconnected)

 

Laura Leff

6:06 PM

Steve - That's a very good point.  I don't think Al could stitch together a script without putting a topper in there now and again, ala Al Boasberg.

Hookie - Have you seen it?

 

Josef Silvia

6:07 PM

My dad gave me a bunch of radio show cassettes to shut me up in the car.

 

Laura Leff

6:07 PM

Steve - And I never before cross-connected that they were both named Al.

 

R. Hookie

6:07 PM

A while ago

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:07 PM

and Steve, what gob-smacks me about Benny and his writers re-suing and polishing older things is that they only started doing it in like 1945, the show was 12 years old! and it went what, 24 years, so imagine ALL the material to pick through!

 

Laura Leff

6:07 PM

"ARE WE THERE YET?"  "Put on a Jack Benny tape."

Hookie - Any thoughts on it?

 

Josef Silvia

6:08 PM

LOL Laura.

 

R. Hookie

6:08 PM

Yes, I should really rewatch it tonight

 

Steve Archer

6:08 PM

And you have to recall that this wasn't where every show was at your fingertips - you heard it once and it was gone for 99.9999% of the audience.

 

Laura Leff

6:08 PM

Kathy - Well, they were reusing stuff back in the early 30s, with all the Grind Hotels.

Steve - Really good point.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:09 PM

wow, I need to watch LTN again, too., I was so disappointed when I saw it the first time. BUT it was one of the top Paramount top grossing films of the year!

 

Laura Leff

6:09 PM

Even the bit that most folks will know as being done with Lawrence Welk about "what good is a bandleader" was originally done by Jack in vaudeville.

 

Josef Silvia

6:09 PM

I still haven't seen that one or The Horn Blows at Midnight.

 

Steve Archer

6:09 PM

Chicken Sisters

 

Laura Leff

6:10 PM

And that's why I ask about it.  For as good as the feud was, I don't think LTN is really a lasting representation of it.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:10 PM

the earliest reusings happen when they are starting over again for a new sponsor, or ending, its so interesting about when they refine and reuse. The going back to Grand Hotel amazes me, I wonder if it corrolates to a reissue of the film, I must research that!

 

Laura Leff

6:10 PM

Steve - There ya go.  I have a photo of Jack doing that on stage with Mary Kelly in the early 30s.

Kathy - IIRC, they do it week after week for a while.  Like Harry Conn had his needle stuck in a crack.  And then some of the characters start showing up on their own.

Would have to go back to Volume 1 to refresh on the names.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:11 PM

Harry Conn was so proud of having written the original Chicken Sisters...and then to see Benny doing it on TV in the 50s.....hope Harry was turning in his grave

 

Laura Leff

6:11 PM

I think Harry didn't pass away until the 60s.

A lot of people have looked for an obit on him, but I don't recall anyone actually finding one.

 

Steve Archer

6:12 PM

Jack was still doing that bit in the '60s too - one on Hollywood Palace with Beverly Washburn.

6:12 PM

 

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Laura Leff

6:12 PM

I'd be curious what happened to his shrew of a wife.  I think they divorced by the 40s IIRC

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:12 PM

the best Grand Hotel character is Kringelein.... I am going to die in 10 minutes!!!!! supposedly they were one of the first radio shows to play with film characters

 

Laura Leff

6:12 PM

WB Andrew

RIGHT!  Kringelein is the one who starts showing up on his own, ala Purple Rose of Cairo.

Steve - And the 70s on stage.  I think they were the Smothers Sisters by then, and I think Iris Adrian was still doing the tough one.

 

Steve Archer

6:14 PM

Yeah, Iris is in that one from Hollywood Palace too.

 

Laura Leff

6:14 PM

(And apologies to all the folks who have not had a chance to go to UCLA and read the scripts that Kathy and I are referencing.  Sorry, we're Benny nerds.)

6:14 PM

 

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Steve Archer

6:14 PM

I'd guess that was around '67 maybe?

 

Laura Leff

6:14 PM

Hey Kathy...we may want to take this offline, but let's definitely talk more in earnest about getting those scripts out there.

 

Josef Silvia

6:15 PM

One day when I go to California, I'll do just that :). Would love to see them.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:15 PM

you bet, Laura! online may be better than publishing in a book, access for all......

 

Laura Leff

6:15 PM

Steve - Yep, I think 2/4/67.

Kathy - Right.  Less profit for the club, but you know, it's about getting people access to the material.

 

R. Hookie

6:16 PM

Put a PayPal button on the page

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:16 PM

and then we can perform them! "I am a fugitive from a lovely chain gang" -- folks, you need to experience this Benny show skit : )

 

Steve Archer

6:16 PM

We could all do a recreation in the chat room and type lines from the script at each other.  Very postmodern.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:17 PM

haha Steve, great idea!

 

Josef Silvia

6:17 PM

LOL. steve

 

Laura Leff

6:17 PM

Oh indeed

 

Steve Archer

6:17 PM

You won't believe how much I sound like Jack when I type.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:17 PM

podcasts....their popularity is impressive

 

Laura Leff

6:17 PM

Thank you thank you, ladies and gentlemen...this is Jack Benny talking...

That may be the only time you hear me do a Jack Benny impersonation.

 

Josef Silvia

6:18 PM

My keyboard does a great Phil Harris

 

Laura Leff

6:18 PM

Hard to type with one hand up to your face.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:18 PM

Jell-O some more

 

Laura Leff

6:18 PM

You know, we've kind of done that before...

 

R. Hookie

6:18 PM

I do a Benny impression all the time at the checkout line

 

Laura Leff

6:18 PM

When you say I beg your pardon, then I'll come back to you...

 

Michael Amowitz

6:19 PM

lol

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:19 PM

it IS interesting to think about the physical shtick that Benny could not do on the radio, what took the place of stare out at the audience?

 

Steve Archer

6:19 PM

Hey, you scanned the barcode twice on those cimmeron rolls!

 

Laura Leff

6:19 PM

Steve - HA

 

R. Hookie

6:19 PM

When you ask my to forgive you I'll return

 

Laura Leff

6:19 PM

Like the swallows at Sorano

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:19 PM

Fred Allen once mentioned that it was hmmmm and yipe

 

Laura Leff

6:20 PM

Kathy - Oh he did that.

 

R. Hookie

6:20 PM

Return to Capistrano

 

Laura Leff

6:20 PM

For you my heart will ever EVer yearn...

 

R. Hookie

6:20 PM

Oh, wow... a duet!

 

Laura Leff

6:20 PM

Yeah, I was thinking others would jump in on it!

 

Josef Silvia

6:20 PM

Oh my darling though we've parted

 

R. Hookie

6:20 PM

When you say that you are sorry...

 

Laura Leff

6:20 PM

Then I will understand

(Josef - You're early)

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:21 PM

go back to whence we started

 

Tracy Allred

6:21 PM

I was just enjoying the music!

 

Steve Archer

6:21 PM

WHENCE!?

 

Josef Silvia

6:21 PM

I realized that

 

R. Hookie

6:21 PM

"neth the havest moon we'll pledge our love anew

 

Laura Leff

6:21 PM

WHENCE>?!?!?

There we go...we filled in the gap.

 

R. Hookie

6:21 PM

harvest

I can't type that fast

 

Laura Leff

6:22 PM

Everyone needs to jump on the WHENCE... :)

 

R. Hookie

6:22 PM

gasp!!! Whence?!

 

Laura Leff

6:22 PM

See...we actually can have fun typing the lines back and forth to each other!   :)

 

Josef Silvia

6:22 PM

WHENCE!!!!!!!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:22 PM

violin whine

 

Perri Harper

6:22 PM

But...WHENCE?!?!

 

R. Hookie

6:23 PM

I'm shocked I knew the words....

 

Laura Leff

6:23 PM

YES...it's a poetic form of the word WHERE!

 

Michael Amowitz

6:23 PM

wince

 

Laura Leff

6:23 PM

Mike - Good one

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:23 PM

once

 

Tracy Allred

6:23 PM

Hey, I just remembered....  Didn't Bing curse the key while singing this?

 

Steve Archer

6:23 PM

Si

 

Laura Leff

6:23 PM

Tracy - Bing curses, but I can't remember if it's this song.

 

Tracy Allred

6:23 PM

Something like "Who the hell picked this key?"

 

Josef Silvia

6:23 PM

I loved how Ronald Coleman called that song basically garbage

 

Laura Leff

6:24 PM

Jack wrote it pretty late in the radio run to provide fodder.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:24 PM

what's the next line "oh my darling, then...."

 

Laura Leff

6:24 PM

Who the hell picked this key, Dennis Day?

 

Tracy Allred

6:24 PM

Yes!  LOL

 

Laura Leff

6:24 PM

Hookie - You take it on home.

(i.e., finish the song)

 

Josef Silvia

6:24 PM

They wre singing the commercial when Bing said that.

 

R. Hookie

6:24 PM

George Burns sings it to himself on occasion

 

Perri Harper

6:24 PM

So my darling though we've parted...

 

R. Hookie

6:25 PM

Where did we leave off?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:25 PM

parted!

 

Laura Leff

6:25 PM

Whence

"Who the hell..." on 3/16/47

 

R. Hookie

6:26 PM

Then sweetheart I'll be going back to you oou ou

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:26 PM

oooooooo

 

Laura Leff

6:26 PM

APPLAUSE

 

Josef Silvia

6:26 PM

One of my favorite episodes

 

Tracy Allred

6:26 PM

"Sweetheart I'll go back to you"

 

Laura Leff

6:26 PM

On that show they sing Always, Ragtime Cowboy Joe, and Carolina in the Morning.

 

R. Hookie

6:26 PM

Ok, I butchered it

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:26 PM

you sounded on key to me

 

Laura Leff

6:27 PM

Then sweetheart, then I'll come back to you.

 

R. Hookie

6:27 PM

Well, thank you

 

Laura Leff

6:27 PM

This was before the "When You Say I Beg Your Pardon" gag.

 

Steve Archer

6:27 PM

(yougotitdude)

 

R. Hookie

6:27 PM

I knew sweetheart was in there

 

Laura Leff

6:27 PM

And doesn't it just fry your hide that the episode where Jack writes the song is currently "lost?"

 

R. Hookie

6:28 PM

It is?!?!

 

Laura Leff

6:28 PM

It may be "And sweetheart," now that I think of it.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:28 PM

do we have the script? can get it from tobacco dot org

 

Tracy Allred

6:28 PM

I love the episode where Jack, Groucho, Frank, Danny Kaye, and George Burns all sing that

 

Josef Silvia

6:28 PM

Yea it was when Jack "fired" the sportsmen and Don got another four

 

Laura Leff

6:28 PM

Should...let me look it up in "39 Forever"... :)

Josef - There ya go.

 

R. Hookie

6:28 PM

My "it is" sounded like Mr. Haney

 

Laura Leff

6:29 PM

9/30/51

 

Laura Leff

6:30 PM

JackBennyRadioShow1951-09-30.pdf395K

 

Laura Leff

6:30 PM

Man, I like this new chat room.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:30 PM

its great, thank you!

 

Laura Leff

6:30 PM

Tracy - There ya go...that's the one that was getting crossed up with Bing cursing.

 

R. Hookie

6:30 PM

You did good, Laura

 

Laura Leff

6:31 PM

I got lucky, honestly.

 

Perri Harper

6:31 PM

(thumbsup)

 

Josef Silvia

6:31 PM

It's pretty cool. Just wish my compute could keep up wiht it.

 

Laura Leff

6:31 PM

Josef - Time to upgrade the 28K baud modem.   ;)

 

Steve Archer

6:31 PM

Another thumbs up for the chat room - we even have george takei (ohmy)

 

Josef Silvia

6:31 PM

Gotcha

 

R. Hookie

6:31 PM

Commodore 64?

 

Laura Leff

6:32 PM

Bing bong bing bong....krzzzzzzzzKRZZZZZZZ

Steve - Oh rockin!

 

Tracy Allred

6:32 PM

Wait...   George?  explain.

lol

 

R. Hookie

6:32 PM

Sulu is a Benny fan?

 

Laura Leff

6:32 PM

(fonzie)

 

R. Hookie

6:32 PM

Hey, FONZ

 

Laura Leff

6:33 PM

Sulu was friends with Eddie Caroll, so do the math.

Now everyone is off looking at the emoticons.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:33 PM

if I had a Matthew McConahey (sp) icon I could chime in with "all right, all right"

 

R. Hookie

6:33 PM

Sure

 

Steve Archer

6:33 PM

And Thurl Ravenscroft (theyregreat)

 

Tracy Allred

6:33 PM

The only thing I love as much as Benny and OTR is all things Star Trek...   LOL

 

Laura Leff

6:34 PM

Oh man, we've recast Star Trek with Benny characters any number of times.

 

Tracy Allred

6:34 PM

I am a serious power nerd and proud.

 

Laura Leff

6:34 PM

Veola Vonn as Deanna Troi, I suppose...we usually do the original series.

There is always disagreement as to who Scotty is.

 

Steve Archer

6:35 PM

Hey, I saw Veola Vonn in ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET THE MUMMY - you should check it out if you want to see her in action.

 

Josef Silvia

6:35 PM

Phil Harris as Riker

 

Laura Leff

6:35 PM

Yeah, I could see that.

 

Tracy Allred

6:35 PM

Sheldon Leonard as Q

 

R. Hookie

6:35 PM

Ok, how are you getting Fonzie and other stuff on there?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:35 PM

does that make Rochester Data, or Dennis?

 

Laura Leff

6:36 PM

Phil Harris as Q

Oh nuts...Tracy beat me to it.

 

Tracy Allred

6:36 PM

lol

 

Laura Leff

6:36 PM

Click the smiley face to the right of where you type, then click More.

 

Josef Silvia

6:36 PM

Dennis as Data

 

Laura Leff

6:36 PM

It will open a new page with about a zillion emoticons there.

 

R. Hookie

6:36 PM

Yeah, did that

 

Laura Leff

6:37 PM

You may need to shift focus to the new tab.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:37 PM

does that make Mary into Spock?

 

Laura Leff

6:37 PM

Josef - Oh that would be funny!

 

Tracy Allred

6:37 PM

"Hey Picard, come-mere a minute."

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:37 PM

haha good one, Tracy

 

Laura Leff

6:37 PM

Kathy - There's also disagreement about that role, IIRC.

 

R. Hookie

6:37 PM

Aw, forget it.... I will be the boring one...

 

Perri Harper

6:37 PM

Yeah, I can just hear that "Yes, please" now...

 

Laura Leff

6:37 PM

Who would be Beverly Crusher?

Mary?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:37 PM

its the first time I have considered it, I am still wrapping my head around Jack as Ralph Kramden, hahaha

 

Josef Silvia

6:38 PM

Definiely Mary

 

Steve Archer

6:38 PM

(facepalm)

 

Laura Leff

6:38 PM

Or Geordi?

Ha!

 

Tracy Allred

6:38 PM

"Which turbo-lift are you going to take to 10-forward?"

 

Laura Leff

6:38 PM

Oh good one

Un-uh.

 

R. Hookie

6:38 PM

I may need to brush up on my sci-fi.... I don't know none of this

 

Laura Leff

6:38 PM

Dennis Day as Reginald Barkley

 

Tracy Allred

6:39 PM

Picard "Turbo lift three"

 

Josef Silvia

6:39 PM

Rochester would make a fun Geordi

 

Laura Leff

6:39 PM

Hookie - This is all Star Trek Next Generation.

 

Tracy Allred

6:39 PM

"uh-uh"

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:39 PM

now if it was Star WARS, I would nominate Carmichael to be Chewbacca

 

Laura Leff

6:39 PM

Rochester can be Benjamin Sisko.  But Eddie Anderson was a better actor.

 

R. Hookie

6:39 PM

Right!  Never seen it

 

Laura Leff

6:39 PM

Oh of course...Rochester as Geordi.  Duh!

 

Steve Archer

6:39 PM

I got yer gas man (chewie)

 

Josef Silvia

6:40 PM

Good point Laura

 

Michael Amowitz

6:40 PM

Frank Nelson is a tribble salesman

 

Laura Leff

6:40 PM

Carmichael as Worf

 

Tracy Allred

6:40 PM

Ok, I have to say...   Benny/Star Trek?  in the same chat room?    AWESOME!   :)

 

Laura Leff

6:40 PM

Believe it or not, we've done it a LOT.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:40 PM

I like the Worf idea!

 

Tracy Allred

6:41 PM

How would Mel Blanc teach Data humanity?

 

Laura Leff

6:41 PM

There's also a spectacular recast, in great detail, of Pulp Fiction with Benny characters.

It's on the old bulletin board forum.

 

Tracy Allred

6:42 PM

Oh my...   the pulp fiction thing...  lol

Who was the Samuel Jackson guy?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:42 PM

cimarron rolls instead of royales with cheese, or maybe it would be "cans of"

 

Laura Leff

6:42 PM

Oh yeah.  I'll just tell you this...Ronald and Benita Colman as the drug pushers that help stab Uma Thurman in the heart.

Samuel Jackson was Rochester, of course.

Just imagine the monologue of "And I will lay my vengeance upon you..." in Rochester's voice.

 

Tracy Allred

6:43 PM

I'm thinking of the restaurant speech!  lol

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:43 PM

pretty great!

 

Laura Leff

6:43 PM

And apologies to anyone in the room who knows neither Star Trek nor Pulp Fiction.

 

Steve Archer

6:43 PM

Rochester in "Snakes in a Maxwell"

 

Laura Leff

6:44 PM

I'm trying really, really hard to restrain myself from going somewhere with that thought...

 

Tracy Allred

6:44 PM

Guys, this was great fun!   I hope to talk with y'all again next time!   Thank you Laura.

 

Steve Archer

6:44 PM

Get these oh gosh oh golly oh gee snakes out of this Maxwell darnit!

 

Laura Leff

6:45 PM

I'm tired of these *&(#*W& snakes on this $&@#*$#@ Maxwell!

 

R. Hookie

6:45 PM

Sorry, I was talking to Mommy

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:45 PM

hahaha that's great

 

Tracy Allred

6:45 PM

Awesome!    - Snakes in a Maxwell!

 

Laura Leff

6:45 PM

OK, I did it.  Couldn't hold it in.

 

Josef Silvia

6:45 PM

lol

 

Perri Harper

6:45 PM

(awesome)

 

Laura Leff

6:45 PM

Thanks so much Tracy.  I'll get back to you on E-mail.

 

R. Hookie

6:45 PM

Topic shifted again?

 

Laura Leff

6:46 PM

Snakes in a Maxwell

 

Josef Silvia

6:46 PM

Not as weird as when I joined in :)

 

R. Hookie

6:46 PM

Well, if we're talking about the Maxwell......

 

Laura Leff

6:46 PM

Yes, quite a night...going from used laxatives to Snakes in a Maxwell.

 

Josef Silvia

6:46 PM

yes

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:46 PM

Laxatives in a Maxwell

 

Laura Leff

6:46 PM

That might make it go faster.

 

Perri Harper

6:46 PM

ha!

 

R. Hookie

6:46 PM

How about the Maxwell in Back to the Future?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:47 PM

hahaha

 

Laura Leff

6:47 PM

Ducking for the groan and flying objects...

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:47 PM

Sal Hepatica to the Future

 

Josef Silvia

6:47 PM

LO

 

Laura Leff

6:47 PM

Back to the Sal Hepatica

 

Steve Archer

6:47 PM

Hop in the Maxwell and it takes you back only like 23 minutes, while sputtering.

 

Josef Silvia

6:47 PM

L

 

Laura Leff

6:47 PM

Sal Hepatica Phone Home

Steve - Oh I like ti.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:47 PM

but we will at least have the smile of health

 

Laura Leff

6:47 PM

it

 

R. Hookie

6:48 PM

Sometimes 23 minutes is all you need

 

Laura Leff

6:48 PM

Nowadays we just detox.

 

Josef Silvia

6:48 PM

The Sal Hepatica Games

 

Laura Leff

6:48 PM

Hookie - As any devoted texter can tell you.

Josef - Good one.

Furious 39

 

Josef Silvia

6:48 PM

thanks

 

Michael Amowitz

6:48 PM

Back to see Snakes in a Maxwell :)

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:48 PM

Haha Furious 39

 

Josef Silvia

6:49 PM

Sad it could happen

 

Laura Leff

6:49 PM

Lord of the Vault...starring Ed

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:49 PM

right after Ironman 23 and Avengers 32

 

R. Hookie

6:49 PM

St. Elmo's Maxwell

 

Josef Silvia

6:49 PM

LOL

6:49 PM

 

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Laura Leff

6:49 PM

Maxwells of Fire

Cue the music...

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:50 PM

Maxwells and Furious

 

R. Hookie

6:50 PM

The Maxwell's on fire?!?!?

(sarcatic)

 

Josef Silvia

6:50 PM

The Lord of the Maxwells

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:50 PM

Lord of the Furious Maxwells on Fire

 

Laura Leff

6:50 PM

Lord of the Furious Snakes on a Maxwell on Fire

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:51 PM

yes!

 

Laura Leff

6:51 PM

LOl

 

Josef Silvia

6:51 PM

definitely!

 

Laura Leff

6:51 PM

I'd pay to see it.

In 3-D!

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:51 PM

add in a Silver Hammer and we'll get more decades referenced

 

Josef Silvia

6:51 PM

IMAX

 

Steve Archer

6:51 PM

IMAXWELL

 

R. Hookie

6:51 PM

The Best Little Maxwell in Texas

 

Laura Leff

6:51 PM

Yeah, but that was a record, not a movie.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:52 PM

I love that!!! IMaxwell

 

Laura Leff

6:52 PM

Steve - Goooood

A Hard Day's Maxwell

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:52 PM

Baby you can drive my Maxwell

 

Laura Leff

6:52 PM

Faster Gladys Zybysko!  Kill!  Kill!

 

Josef Silvia

6:52 PM

Little Maxwell on the Prairie

 

R. Hookie

6:52 PM

Little Maxwell on the Prairie

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:52 PM

beep beep um beep beep yeah!

 

Laura Leff

6:53 PM

There's an echo in here

 

R. Hookie

6:53 PM

Really?

 

Laura Leff

6:53 PM

The Love Maxwell

soon will be making another run...because it took Sal Hepatica...

 

Steve Archer

6:53 PM

50 Shades of Maxwell

 

R. Hookie

6:53 PM

Oh, digging up Don Knotts movies now

 

Laura Leff

6:53 PM

50 Shades of Day

 

Josef Silvia

6:54 PM

The Ghost and M. Maxwell

Mr.

 

R. Hookie

6:54 PM

The Reluctant Maxwell

 

Laura Leff

6:54 PM

I thought you were trying for Mrs. Muir

The Three Faces of Mary

 

Josef Silvia

6:55 PM

The Maxwell Story

 

Laura Leff

6:55 PM

Before we get completely out of orbit...any suggestions for a show for next time?

Bringing Up Dennis

I Stand Condemned

 

R. Hookie

6:56 PM

I have nothing...

 

Steve Archer

6:56 PM

Are we on summer hiatus yet for next show?

 

Laura Leff

6:56 PM

Mental image of screeching and crashing sounds.

Steve - We can be.  We haven't always been "faithful" to the month over the past several chats, so I'm open to anything good.

 

Josef Silvia

6:57 PM

Nothing here.

 

Laura Leff

6:57 PM

We'll be on hiatus in July.

The Waukegan Connection.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:57 PM

but we'll always have June

 

Laura Leff

6:57 PM

Hiatus meaning summer hiatus, so we do non-series shows.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:57 PM

we could go back to whence we started

 

Laura Leff

6:57 PM

Hmmmmm

I could see that.

How about the one with that quartet singing it?

 

R. Hookie

6:58 PM

How about a link to a TV special?

 

Laura Leff

6:58 PM

Or would we rather do Josef's favorite show with Bing Crosby cursing?

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:58 PM

I was going to say, how about all about the Sportsmen, bring your favorite songs

 

Josef Silvia

6:58 PM

Yes, that would be fun

 

Laura Leff

6:58 PM

Hookie - I'm open to that, but when we did it once, people who wanted to listen and do the chat at the same time didn't.

 

Steve Archer

6:58 PM

that's good for me.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

6:59 PM

Bing acting badly is always good

 

Laura Leff

6:59 PM

OK, Bing cursing.

 

Josef Silvia

6:59 PM

True

 

R. Hookie

6:59 PM

OK

 

Laura Leff

6:59 PM

Or I can find the one with Jack saying "sh*t" from the 30s.

 

Josef Silvia

6:59 PM

sounds fun

 

R. Hookie

6:59 PM

Bing cussing

 

Josef Silvia

6:59 PM

No way

 

Laura Leff

6:59 PM

Yes way

 

R. Hookie

6:59 PM

wow

sure

 

Steve Archer

6:59 PM

let's just splice a Jack Benny show with a Redd Foxx album and see how we like it.

 

Laura Leff

6:59 PM

Accidentally of course

 

R. Hookie

7:00 PM

I like

 

Laura Leff

7:00 PM

Steve - ROFLMAO

Bing cussing.

Done.

 

Josef Silvia

7:00 PM

of course

 

Laura Leff

7:00 PM

Hang on and I'll point you to the Jack cussing episode

 

Josef Silvia

7:00 PM

Thanks

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

7:00 PM

what is more rare, Jack cussing or doing Yiddish phrases?

 

R. Hookie

7:01 PM

wow, tossup

 

Laura Leff

7:01 PM

It was mainly other characters doing Yiddish phrases

Like Pat C. Flick

 

R. Hookie

7:01 PM

Mr. Kitzel

 

Laura Leff

7:01 PM

Nuts...I'll find it.  Stand by.  Talk amongst yourselves.

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

7:01 PM

I don't remember which episode, but the one time Jack tries to do a Yiddish mother, he keeps apologizing for how bad he is

 

Michael Amowitz

7:02 PM

Frighteningly, it can all be done now...we have the technology

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

7:02 PM

he can't even do Cohen on the Telephone!

 

Laura Leff

7:02 PM

Har har har

Still looking

Oh he says "damn"

10/21/34

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

7:03 PM

well, blasphemy beats scatology

 

R. Hookie

7:03 PM

Hmmmm

 

Laura Leff

7:03 PM

Here...

7:03 PM

 

 

Josef Silvia left the room (user disconnected)

 

Laura Leff

7:04 PM

34-10-21 Jack Benny Grocery Store Part 2.mp35.3MB

 

Laura Leff

7:04 PM

Mwahaha

Don't ask me for a time mark on where to find it.  I'd have to go looking for it.

BRB

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley

7:05 PM

gotta go make dinner and watch Mad Men, but it has been awesome, everybody, thanks so much!

 

R. Hookie

7:05 PM

I have 2 TV episodes in the grocery store

7:05 PM

 

Kathy Fuller-Seeley left the room (user disconnected)

 

Steve Archer

7:05 PM

bye Kathy

 

Laura Leff

7:06 PM

Hookie - As you should.  They did it twice.

Thanks for being here Kathy!  Always great to have you!

OK...anything else for this month, or should we call it good?

7:07 PM

 

 

Josef Silvia joined the room

 

R. Hookie

7:07 PM

I wonder how many TV shows I don't have?

 

Laura Leff

7:07 PM

Josef's back...hide!  Hide!

 

Steve Archer

7:07 PM

I'm good to sign off - fun chat everyone!  Night all!

 

Laura Leff

7:07 PM

Hookie - Count them and subtract from...uh...

 

Josef Silvia

7:08 PM

Thanks for the link,. Laura :)

 

Perri Harper

7:08 PM

It's been a good time!

 

Laura Leff

7:08 PM

Two hundred some odd.

Yes, we should do this more often.  Maybe every month!

7:08 PM

 

Steve Archer left the room (user disconnected)

 

R. Hookie

7:08 PM

I'll be here

 

Laura Leff

7:08 PM

OK, thanks for making this such a great chat tonight folks.  Hope to see you next time!

 

Josef Silvia

7:08 PM

Yes, see you next month

 

Perri Harper

7:08 PM

Good night, all!

 

Michael Amowitz

7:08 PM

Here when I can be

 

Laura Leff

7:08 PM

I'll be around for a bit just downloading the transcript.

We'll think good thoughts for you, Mike.

 

R. Hookie

7:09 PM

ok, good night folks!!!

 

Perri Harper

7:09 PM

(goldstar)