IJBFC Chat - November 11, 2007

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[Maxwell] Hey hyt
[Maxwell] Or yht
[yhtapmys] Hi Max.
[yhtapmys] My font is teeny for some reason.
[Maxwell] Odd. I thought there was some way to change it, but I'm not
seeing anything.
[yhtapmys] There.
[yhtapmys] At the bottom. Hit plus.
[Maxwell] Oh, yeah.
[yhtapmys] Must be a new version of Java in here or something.
[Maxwell] Either that or an old one. I'm not sure.
[yhtapmys] Anything new today? I just got back from the store and bought a
digital camera.
[Maxwell] Not that I recall.
[Maxwell] Some Jack Benny and associates coming up on local radio here in
the next few weeks.
User Brad from Georgia has entered this room.
[Maxwell] Hey Brad
[yhtapmys] Hi Brad.
[Brad from Georgia] Hi Maxwell, Yht!
[yhtapmys] I don't bother listening to OTR on the local station. They cut
it up so badly.
[Brad from Georgia] Just flew in from Hollywood--and you know the rest of
the joke.
[Maxwell] You'd probably like what they do here. It's noncommercial radio.
[Maxwell] Although they have sponsors.
[yhtapmys] That makes sense.
[Brad from Georgia] We don't have any local OTR stations, though I know
several guys in radio that would love to host an OTR show.
[yhtapmys] Here, they chop shows so they can fit in spots and a newscast.
[yhtapmys] Brad, what were you doing in Hwd.?
[Brad from Georgia] It's like the way they chop up and shorten old TV
shows...because a TV half hour is now down to 22 minutes from a one-time
26.
[Brad from Georgia] Oh, I attended the SPERDVAC 75th anniversary
presentation of the Jack Benny Program.
[Maxwell] How'd that go?
[Brad from Georgia] Coulda used ONE more rehearsasl!
[Brad from Georgia] Eddie Carroll was brilliant as usual, and Chuck McCann
did a passable Don Wilson AND Phil Harris.
[Maxwell] Kinda like Mary in this month's show....
[Brad from Georgia] But the comptuer sound kept getting unsynched, and the
computer crashed three or four times.
[Maxwell] Yuck!
[yhtapmys] Computer sound?
[Brad from Georgia] But Laura will catch you up on it all. I hated that
they ran so far over time that Laura's interview panel was scrubbed!
[Maxwell] I'm sure she wasn't thrilled either.
[Brad from Georgia] Yep, the Lucky Strike auctioneer, all the musical
cues, the Maxwell--these were all on computer. Which wouldn't work.
[yhtapmys] Oh, damn.
[yhtapmys] You needed Gene Twombly
User steve .shimp. has entered this room.
[Maxwell] Hey steve
[steve .shimp.] Hiya Max, brad, yht!
[Brad from Georgia] Sure did! Chuck McCann did yeoman service when the
Maxwell sound wouldn't work and did the Mel Blanc bit. Hi, Steve!
[steve .shimp.] Were you at SPERDVAC Brad?
[Maxwell] Cool!
[steve .shimp.] (coming in late)
User Laura Leff has entered this room.

[Brad from Georgia] I was there with bells on, Steve. Everyone kept shushing me.

[Maxwell] Hey LL

[Brad from Georgia] Hi, Laura!

[Laura Leff] Hi folks!

[steve .shimp.] So it all went well? Hi LL!

[Brad from Georgia] It went less than well in some ways. Laura didn't get to do her panel!

[Maxwell] steve Apparently everything but the computer.

[Brad from Georgia] The actors were game, though!

[steve .shimp.] What happened to the panel?

[Laura Leff] They cut it

[Brad from Georgia] Laura, did you at least get an interview or two?

[steve .shimp.] wha?

[Laura Leff] All the other issues caused everything to run long, and they needed to get out of the room.

[steve .shimp.] Is this the panel at the luncheon?

[Brad from Georgia] They ran dreadfully overtime with the sound miscues AND a misguided raffle.

[Maxwell] We're a little late so good night, folks.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Unfortunately, no. I hadn't brought any recording equipment, because I thought they'd be filming the panel

[Laura Leff] Brad - I wasn't paying attention to the raffle...what happened?

[Laura Leff] Everyone split?

[Brad from Georgia] Well, dang. I'm so sorry. I was looking forward to that!

[Laura Leff] Yeah, I was hoping to have fodder for the 2008-1 issue of the Times.

[Brad from Georgia] Well, the raffle went on forEVER, and just about everyone who didn't have tickets got bored and left.

[Laura Leff] Oh well. I can always do separate interviews.

[Brad from Georgia] Laura, tell about the cast in the show re-creation. Some good talent there!

[Laura Leff] I have to tell about something funny that happened

[Laura Leff] OK...we'll talk about that first.

[steve .shimp.] Sorry to hear about the disarray...

[Laura Leff] Eddie as Jack

[Laura Leff] Shirley Mitchell reprising her role as Mabel

[steve .shimp.] Oh, how cool. Was Beverley Washburn there?

[Laura Leff] Beverly Washburn reprising her role as Mary (this time THE Mary and not Mary as Beaver)

[Laura Leff] Oops...crossed!    

[Laura Leff] Stuffy Singer reprising his role as Dennis Day (again as THE, not Beaver)

[Brad from Georgia] (The MC FORGOT to mention at first that Shirley had been the original Mabel! Someone reminded him, though, and he got it in later)

[steve .shimp.] Did anyone video/audiotape it?

[Brad from Georgia] There were cameras going.

[Laura Leff] Brad - I almost called that fact out from the audience

[Laura Leff] Oh let's see...

[Brad from Georgia] Janet Waldo.

[Laura Leff] Don King as one of the Lucky Strike announcers

[Laura Leff] Not the guy with the hair

[steve .shimp.] Just going to ask that...

[Laura Leff] Chuck McCann as about a thousand people

[Laura Leff] Including a giant ham    

[Brad from Georgia] Including Don and Phil (and the Maxwell)

[Laura Leff] Who else, Brad? Trying to remember?

[steve .shimp.] Which script was it?

[Laura Leff] Stood in for the Maxwell when they couldn't get the right sound cues going

[Brad from Georgia] Laura, so am I! I'm jet-lagged. Back in Georgia tonight.

[Laura Leff] Was billed as Rose Bowl of 1948, but someone came up and complained to me afterwards that it was Rose Bowl of 1949

[Laura Leff] Let me look that up real quick

[Brad from Georgia] It was the New Years 1949 script.

[Brad from Georgia] Good choice as a showcase for different Benny cast memebers, but I expected a more Don-heavy show. No pun intended.

[steve .shimp.] Who was Rochester?

[Brad from Georgia] Rochester never answered the phone....

[steve .shimp.] Ah, one of those...

[Laura Leff] It's 1/4/48

User GT has entered this room.

[Maxwell] Hi GT

[Brad from Georgia] I would've sworn they said 1949 on stage

[Laura Leff] I think because they probably couldn't get a good Rochester. It's really hard.

[Laura Leff] Hi GT

[Laura Leff] Nope...1949 was the first show for CBS.

[Laura Leff] Eddie was in the original

[GT] Hello, just testing...

[Laura Leff] Dennis wasn't...they stole that from another script

User GT has logged out.

[steve .shimp.] Hi GT

[steve .shimp.] seeya GT

[Laura Leff] Well, alrighty then

[Maxwell] I guess the test worked.

(some loss)

[Laura Leff] Yeah, a couple.

[Laura Leff] "Huh."

[Laura Leff] (I decided not to pursue the conversation further. He seemed either dubious or generally non-plussed.)

[Laura Leff] Anyhow, I found it amusing.

[Maxwell] Huh.

[Laura Leff] Now I'll shut up.    

[steve .shimp.] Weird... "selling shows" meaning he presumably sells Benny shows?

[Laura Leff] Now that I've bored everyone to sleep.

[Maxwell]  

[yhtapmys] Zzzz

[Laura Leff] Steve - Oh yes, he said that included Benny shows.

[Brad from Georgia] We rented a Prius. I've never driven one. We were supposed to meet the Carrolls for dinner. I couldn't figure out how to start the Prius (it doesn't have a key).

[Laura Leff] So huh.

[steve .shimp.] How the heck did he know what he had without YOUR stuff?

[steve .shimp.]  

[Laura Leff] Brad - It doesn't?

[Brad from Georgia] I called Eddie and explained we might be late because we were sitting still in the car. He said in his Benny voice, "Brad, it's not SUPPOSED to save gas that way!"

[Maxwell] It has a stick to poke the hamster.

[steve .shimp.]  

[Laura Leff] Or to poke Mel Blanc

User Scott in KC has entered this room.

[Brad from Georgia] LL-Nope. It has a little computer chip, and then you have to press a start button three times.

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Fill it up Jack

[Laura Leff] Hi Scott!

[Brad from Georgia] The third time, you have to depress the brake simultaneously with pushing the button.

[Krledu] Hi Scott

[Maxwell] And say, "There's no place like home."

[Laura Leff] Brad - But if you know to press start three times, doesn't that make it subject to theft?

[Maxwell] Hey Scott

[steve .shimp.] Thieves hate the environment.

[steve .shimp.] They steal SUVs

[Brad from Georgia] We finally got underway, and then we discovered that the Santa Monica Freeway is slow.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Huh. I mean Duh

[Brad from Georgia] But we did manage to meet the Carrolls on the DOT. I mean right to the MINUTE.

[Laura Leff] So was your wife with you?

[yhtapmys] And save the environment!

[Maxwell] Brad, I'm surprised it moves at all. Usually it's the cars that move.

[Scott in KC] Hi Laura and all. Happy Vets; Day -- Thank you for those who served. And Happy Thanksgiving (early)!

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - You haven't been in California, have you?

[Brad from Georgia] LL, I have to say that California driving is NOT nearly as bad as driving in Atlanta. At least in CA people would let us change lanes.

[Scott in KC] Vets'*

[Maxwell] Not for over 40 years.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Then you must have hit it on a good day.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - The ground moves out here.

[steve .shimp.] Oh, California is orders of magnitude scarier driving than anywhere else in the country I've been.

[Krledu] So, was this convention just a one day thing?

[Maxwell] So when somebody said, "The earth moved," they really mean it.

[Maxwell] said = says

[Brad from Georgia] When we got off the plane in Atlanta, a group of soldiers were walking down the concourse. I called out, "Thanks for your service to the country, gentlemen!" And people applauded.

[Laura Leff] Hey, that's cool

[Brad from Georgia] Krledu--just a luncheon, actually. The convention's coming up later this year.

[Laura Leff] Now, vet's day is actually tomorrow, isn't it?

[Laura Leff] Ah no, it is today

[Brad from Georgia] Or next year--May, I think!

[steve .shimp.] Got my "buddy poppy" the other day. I think it's a sweet and cool fundraising tradition.

[Laura Leff] That's it.

[Scott in KC] Laura, the day I found out I did not get that Bay Area job, you had an earthquake. Maybe God was telling you something.

[Maxwell] The legal holiday for the Post Office, banks, etc. is tomorrow.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Buddy poppy?

[Laura Leff] Scott - Hey, *I* didn't do anything!    

[Laura Leff] I should put up Jack's Navy picture

[steve .shimp.] Little paper "poppies" the wounded vets make and the VFW sells.

[Brad from Georgia] Now how about the "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" show?

[Laura Leff] Replace the Red Sox cap

[steve .shimp.] They've been doing them since like the Wilson administration.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh yeah, duh!

[steve .shimp.] The poppies are from the "In Flanders Field" poem.

[Laura Leff] Steve - I'll be darned...I didn't know that.

[Maxwell] I haven't seen those poppies in years.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Ah yes.

[Scott in KC] BTW, thanks for considering my offer, Laura. I respect what you had to say.

[Brad from Georgia] "In Flanders fields the poppies blow...

[Laura Leff] So how about the Sierra Madre show?

[yhtapmys] I learned the poem in school.

[Laura Leff] Scott - And I appreciate your understanding.

[Brad from Georgia] Nice opening bit for Don, with a great setup for the "trout" joke later!

[yhtapmys] It's a good show, Laura, despite all the lines being butchered.

[steve .shimp.] Mary's line about working in the "Jose" department always makes me laugh.

[Brad from Georgia] Mary did sound under-rehearsed!

[steve .shimp.] Considering her other hangups she always seemed to be easygoing about her May company past.

[Maxwell] I liked Deniss's line about coming back on page 26.

[Krledu] But she always messes up lines

[Brad from Georgia] "Hoomphry Bogart?"

[yhtapmys] I can picture the writers wondering if they could get away with a few jokes and decide to go for it.

[Maxwell] Or Dennis's line

[Laura Leff] And the very first Si-Sy routine

[yhtapmys] "Taco Or Leave It"

[Laura Leff] Could you get away with this show today, in light of PC?

[Maxwell] The timing of Si-Sy got better as they repeated it.

[Maxwell] And brought in Sue, etc.

[yhtapmys] Laura, you can't put ANYTHING on TV these days.

[Laura Leff] And saw

[Laura Leff] Yht - At least nothing GOOD.    

[Krledu] Yea and they even changed it sometimes and it was funny

[Brad from Georgia] LL-I doubt it. Not when WB won't release the "Speedy Gonzalez" cartoons on DVD!

[Scott in KC] Laura, what was the name of that song I described to you? I heard it again in a circa 1942 show.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Yeah, that's why I was wondering!

[yhtapmys] Scott, isn't there one on Volume 5?

[Laura Leff] Scott - Oh...Fine and Dandy?

[Laura Leff] Yht - Was that to Brad?

[Laura Leff] Si-Sy got converted to French in the Horatio Hornblower episode...Oui-Wow

[Brad from Georgia] yht--Dunno, don't have that volume yet!

[Krledu] I think the Si-Sy routine is growing on me

[steve .shimp.] I think it's funnier on TV.

[Laura Leff] Joan and I were talking about what we like to watch on television, and we seem to watch mostly the same stuff. None of which is US network

[Maxwell] One of the funniest on TV was in the airport.

[yhtapmys] Yeah, it was to Brad.

[Krledu] Where you can see Jack trying not to crack up

[Scott in KC] Thanks...Fine and Dandy. Did I describe it well enough?

[yhtapmys] I bought mine and haven't had time to watch it.

[Brad from Georgia] Eddie told us that in the show recreation he did in Newark in October, Bill Dana was in the cast. They renamed his character "Jose," and he did his Jose Jimenez character.\

[Brad from Georgia] For the first time in years.

[Laura Leff] Scott - Yes, I think so. I can't remember it being used for magic, but it's possible.

[Maxwell] Fine and dandy: da da da-da, da-da da da-da...

[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh my!

[Scott in KC] Max....That's it!

[Brad from Georgia] LL-Yes, "Fine and Dandy" was used on the Saturday-morning magic show for kids...it's slipping my memory...but it was used on that all the time.

[Brad from Georgia] Mark somebody's Magic Show?

[Laura Leff] Max did a pretty good rendition of it

[Scott in KC] Before the Police had a similar song.

[Maxwell] Brad Fine and Dandy was often used for magic acts.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Well, shows you what I know!    

[Brad from Georgia] "Saber Dance" is also very big in magic circles.

[Krledu] Wow, Im listening to the Jack Benny program for tonight. Dennis Day has a wonderful voice. Its just got better

[Maxwell] Art Metrano did a "bad" magic act where he did it just like I did, except with his voice.

[Laura Leff] Brad - See, that's what I think of.

[Laura Leff] Really good for plate spinning

[Brad from Georgia] Dennis was a great Irish tenor!

[Maxwell] There's another song that plate spinners used, that I can't think of the name of.

[yhtapmys] Gee, Max, I forgot all about that/

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Sounds like a bad plate spinning video I just saw on You Tube

[Scott in KC] Brad, I have a recording of the Sportsmen singing Saber Dance.

[Brad from Georgia] I didn't even know it had words!

[Laura Leff] Scott - Oh, that's a dazzling version!

[yhtapmys] Yes, LSMFT

[Laura Leff] I have no idea how they could sing so fast.

[Brad from Georgia] "Saber saber saber saber saber saber dance, oops!"

[Scott in KC] Brad, they sang itin a Luckie Srike ad.

[Krledu] They really sang it fast and it was amazing that you can even understand them

[Brad from Georgia] Luckie Shrike? They were selling fortunate birds?

[Scott in KC] I am sooo sorry...in a Luckie Strike ad.

[Laura Leff] 6/27/48

[Brad from Georgia] Actually, "Fortunate Birds" sounds like a great name for a Chinese restaurant....

[Laura Leff] Brad -   

[Laura Leff] Brad - More like "Unfortunate Birds"

[Laura Leff] next to "Sum Yung Gai"

[Brad from Georgia] In the show recreation, Eddie said, "You should drink more Phil, milk." Don't know if it was a real flub, but it was funny.

[Maxwell] LL I think "Unfortunate Birds" is what they call KFC in China.

[Laura Leff] Brad - I don't remember that in the original...

[steve .shimp.] Unfortunate Diners is what they should call it here.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Good one

[Maxwell]  

[Brad from Georgia] Eddie sounded so much like Jack when the crowd laughed and he said, "Gee, ya make ONE lousy mistake---"

[Laura Leff] Nope...I tracked no bloopers in the original 1/4/48

[Brad from Georgia] You know on the "Treasure of Sierra Madre" show, Don Wilson actually did some creditable acting.

[Laura Leff] I wanted him to say, "ONE lousy rehearsal! Just ONE LOUSY REHEARSAL!"

[Krledu] How do they say that line about the car?

[Brad from Georgia] LL-I was waiting for that, too!

[Laura Leff] Krl - Which line?

[Krledu] I don't know how they got that out in one piece

[Krledu] Dyno-vasculator

[steve .shimp.] The dynamometer thing?

[Laura Leff] Oh, the super-flexed blah blah blah

[Krledu] syncro-meshed

[Laura Leff] This must have been a reference to something else at the time...does anyone know?

[Brad from Georgia] That means you have to press three buttons to get the dang car to go.

[steve .shimp.]  

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] And step on the brake at the same time

[Laura Leff] This reminds me of some of the AD&D games that Dan has played

[steve .shimp.] They make Ritalin for that.

[Maxwell] LL Post war cars were getting into automatic transmissions, etc. I kind of got the impression that's what they were taking off on.

[Krledu] AD&D>

[Brad from Georgia] Synchro-mesh was, if I recall correctly, a General Motors innovation in automatic transmission. Of course, I can barely tell a car from a cow, so don't take my word.

[yhtapmys] That sounds right, Brad.

[Laura Leff] Reminds me of the song from...was it The Road Show?

[Maxwell] Reminds me of the Beach Boys song.

[yhtapmys] I think the writers just took a pile of auto stuff and strung it together.

[Laura Leff] Breathtaking Cinemascope and Stereophonic Sound...

[Laura Leff] Or maybe The Bandwagon...that sounds more correct...

[Maxwell] No, the Cole Porter adaptation of Ninotchka...can't think of the name.

[Laura Leff] You know, that "picks you up when you're low, calms you down when you're tense" always sounds like a drug ad to me

[Laura Leff] Which, I suppose it was.

[steve .shimp.] Exactly!

[Brad from Georgia] That old George Washington Hill and his repetitive theory of advertising!

[Scott in KC] American Bandwagon with Dick Clark?

[Laura Leff] Zoloft...picks you up when you're low, calms you down when you're tense

[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh, tell Gregg's joke about that

[Maxwell] Nicotine: Picks you up when you're low, calms you down when you're tense.

[yhtapmys] Yes ri! You bet!

[Laura Leff] Valium...picks you up when you're low, calms you down when you're tense

[Krledu] yes ri?

[Scott in KC] "Be happy, go lucky," Max.

[yhtapmys] Just ONE typo!

[Brad from Georgia] LL--I don't remember the details, but when the former head of American Tobacco, George Washington Hill, died, a newscaster said, "George Washington Hill died. Yes, Geoarge Washington Hill died!"

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Just ONE LOUSY TYPO!

[Laura Leff] Brad - Close enough.    

[Laura Leff] So here's a question...

[Laura Leff] Gregg likes to give mini-lectures before his shows to discuss the historical references beforehand.

[Maxwell] Just found the movie with the Steophonic Sound song: Silk Stockings.

[Laura Leff] Or more like cultural references like Mad Man Muntz.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - There you go. Thanks!

[Maxwell] Or stereophonic sounds for those who are sticklers for spelling.

[Krledu] What was Mad Man Muntz?

[yhtapmys] Car dealer and TV dealer

[Laura Leff] Krl - You may have just answered my question...

[Brad from Georgia] Madman Muntz was a huckster whose prices were insane! He became a great salesman for TVs.

[Krledu] I C

[Maxwell] I remember Muntz selling TVs.

[Laura Leff] How much is it needed to give such a lecture before a recreation? I remember his lecture before a Fred Allen recreation was probably half as long as the recreation itself.

[Brad from Georgia] In fact, he invented the abbreviation TV, according to Gregg.

[Brad from Georgia] Because Madman Muntz Television was too long for skywriters!

[Laura Leff] Not bashing Gregg at all...just wondering how much explanation is needed.

[steve .shimp.] Suppose it depends on the individual case at hand.

[steve .shimp.] Usually Benny shows don't need much.

[Brad from Georgia] Petrillo!

[steve .shimp.] A Bob Hope monologue from 1943 might need a couple of hours of history and topical reference schooling!

[Brad from Georgia] Sorry, it just popped out.

[yhtapmys] http://www.8trackheaven.com/muntz.html

[Laura Leff] I still see a lot of questions from newer listeners as to who Petrillo was.

[Maxwell] Jack Eigen.

[Krledu] Hey, Mr. Kitzel does a pretty good Mexican accent. At first I thought it was Mell Blanc

[yhtapmys] Eigen I had to look up.

[Laura Leff] Brad - What was the name, Joey Longren on top?

[Maxwell] He was in Chicago for years after he left NYC.

[Scott in KC] In keeping in the theme of today's holiday: Did Jack "encourage" Dennis to join the Navy like he did?

[yhtapmys] I heard him on Fred Allen

[Krledu] Sorry talking about the show I;m listening to

[Brad from Georgia] LL--Ya got me on that one!

[Maxwell] He's best known for a TV show where he gave some starlet a 3 minute kiss.

[Maxwell] (Eigen)

[Laura Leff] Scott - Not sure...I think that there was plenty of encouragement from the public at large for able-bodied young men to go into the military at that time.

[Maxwell] It caused a furor.

[Krledu] What did?

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Joey Longren?

[Maxwell] Eigen

[Laura Leff] Scott - And Jack tried to get Bill Morrow *out* of having to serve.

[Brad from Georgia] Well, Phil Harris joined the Merchant Marine service.

[Laura Leff] As did the whole band

[Brad from Georgia] For about three weeks....

[Scott in KC] Laura, I understand since my dad was a World War II vet, but I thought it was interesting both men served in the Navy.

[Laura Leff] Scott - Jack and Dennis, you mean?

[Brad from Georgia] Actually, I don't want to dishonor Phil's service. He didn't have to serve at all at his age, and it's great that he tried.

[Scott in KC] Yes, Laura.

[Krledu] How old was Phil when he went into the Merchant Marines?

[Laura Leff] Scott - I'd guess that more as coincidence than intention. Jack was in the Navy because it was local to him.

[Brad from Georgia] Krledu--He was 38.

[Laura Leff] But he said his age was 39

[Brad from Georgia] Men older than 36 were past draft age at that time.

[Brad from Georgia] LL--LOL!

[Laura Leff] They're either too young or too hold...

[Laura Leff] old

[Laura Leff] They're either to gray or too grassy green...

[yhtapmys] Just ONE rehearsal, Laura!

User Mike Amo has entered this room.

[Maxwell] Hi Mike

[Laura Leff] Hi Mike!~

[Brad from Georgia] What's best is in the army, what's left will never harm me....

[Krledu] Just one lousy rehearsal

[Mike Amo] Hi kids!

[steve .shimp.] Hi Mike

[Krledu] Hi Mike

[Brad from Georgia] Hi, Mike!

[Laura Leff] They're something about the Sierra Madre skit that makes me think of The Champion skit

[Krledu] Which skit is that?

[Scott in KC] Hiya Mike. <waving> Kansas City neighbor.

[Laura Leff] Funny, I thought Mike was on the East Coast.

[Mike Amo] I am <waves>

[Scott in KC] Laura, I could be wrong.

[Laura Leff] Krl - Where Jack and Don are hitchhiking and picked up by Mary, they want to get into boxing

[Brad from Georgia] Oh, yes, I can see the beach behind Mike now.

[yhtapmys] I like Sierra Madre better than the Champion.

[Brad from Georgia] Diddo, yht!

[Laura Leff] Yht - Say more about that. I don't have a particular preference

[Krledu] Oh yes I remember that one

[Brad from Georgia] Or ditto. I don't care, I got lotsa letters.

[Maxwell] So you do, Chico.

[Krledu] I liked Sierra Madre much better, I thought it was funnier

[Scott in KC] <<< Likes High Noon sketch sans Si/Sy.

[Laura Leff] Based on better material

[Laura Leff] Scott - Glad you brought that up

[Laura Leff] So what's the best Benny skit ever?

[Laura Leff] I think High Noon is far up there

[Krledu] There weren't many big laughs in Champion

[Mike Amo] on the phone but I'll be reading back

[Scott in KC] Laura...I like the boopers and how they ad libbed.

[Brad from Georgia] High Noon is very good. I have a weakness for Horatio Hornblower, though--loved those novels when I was a teenager.

[yhtapmys] I don't know, Laura, it just wasn't as funny.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Too bad you didn't see our recreation of it in Waukegan

[Krledu] The bloopers make the shows funnier

[Krledu] Though I like that add libs

[Laura Leff] Snow White?

[Krledu] As I listened into the 1950's show, I noticed Phil Harris, add-libbed more and more

[Scott in KC] Exactly, Krl.

[Brad from Georgia] I do, too--in the last radio show when Mel Blanc blows a line, Jack has a great comeback.

[Laura Leff] Krl - And Jack got on his case about it sometimes

[Laura Leff] Ah Wilderness?

[Laura Leff] Grand Hotel?

[Krledu] Ya sometimes when he yells I think that its more scolding than actually a comeback

[Brad from Georgia] As Twombly, the sound man, Mel says, "My family in Canoga Park know it's me," but fouls up the line. Jack says, "Not with THAT reading, they don't."

[Krledu] I didn't get Ah Wilderness to much

[Laura Leff] They redid Ah Wilderness about 30 years later on TV with Connie Francis

[Laura Leff] Buck Benny?

[steve .shimp.] I Stand Condemned and the Gaslight one they did a couple of times each, right?

[Laura Leff] (more skits in 30s...more to choose from)

[Laura Leff] Steve - Right

[Brad from Georgia] Buck Benny was rarely as funny as it shoulc have been, for some reason.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Right, good call

[steve .shimp.] I have to say the skits aren't the reason I love the Benny show...

[Brad from Georgia] The movie Buck Benny was very, very funny, though.

[Krledu] They did I stand comdemned a bunch of times with different versions

[Brad from Georgia] Wasn't Boris Karloff in one of them? Or Peter Lorre?

[Laura Leff] The (Rotating Name for a Murder Mystery)?

[Laura Leff] Brad - Yes, I believe they both were, different versions

[steve .shimp.] Yep.

[Laura Leff] Murder at the Racquet Club

[Krledu] Just recently I was watching a movie and heard a reference to Gaslight, and I was laughing so hard, but nobody else with me got it

[Laura Leff] Murder at Romanoffs

[Mike Amo] Back, and read back...in summary: "Si" and I agree, others were better, but I enjoyed the ad libbing

[Krledu] What was 7th Heaven?

[Krledu] A movie?

[Mike Amo] Also was glad to hear Phil and Mel get applause

[Laura Leff] Krl - Don't worry, I've been the only one howling at something in a movie theatre more than once.

[Laura Leff] Krl - Starring Charles Farrell

[steve .shimp.] Ever see that Charles Addams cartoon?

[Brad from Georgia] "That's my little Margie."

[Laura Leff] Steve - Which one?

[Krledu] doing remakes on the movie for 7 years

[steve .shimp.] Everyone in the theater sobbing with Uncle Fester giggling like crazy.

[Laura Leff] Steve - No, but I can picture it.

[steve .shimp.] I feel like that sometimes...

[Laura Leff] I overheard a conversation about someone laughing like crazy at Titanic in a theatre

[Laura Leff] said that when he left, everyone else looked at him like he was satanic.

[Krledu] Thats horrible

[Brad from Georgia] It was the opposite on our flight back from CA. The movie was "Hot Rod." Everyone else was laughing, I was sobbing uncontrollably. What a lousy picture.

[Maxwell] LL It was a laughable movie.

[steve .shimp.] I liked the iceberg.

[Laura Leff] I liked the iceberg lettuce

[Maxwell] I was rooting for the ocean at the end.

[Laura Leff] Hedda Iceberg Lettuce

[Mike Amo] Who played the iceberg?

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - As was I

[Laura Leff] I'm flying! I'm drowning!

[Krledu] I thinks its funny how we can be talkig about skits in Jack Benny programs and then next minute talkign about modern movies

[Scott in KC] I liked Kate Winsett (>) spitting.

[Brad from Georgia] My son took his wife to see Titanic and halfway through he said, loudly, "Twenty-five bucks on the iceberg to win." Humiliated my daughter-in-law, but he got a big laugh.

[yhtapmys] That's a great line.

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Brad - Good one

[Mike Amo]  

[Scott in KC] <?>

[Brad from Georgia] That's my kid.

[steve .shimp.] Shhh. Don't spoil the ending!

[Laura Leff] Do be careful though...Groucho used to do stuff like that to his wives.

[Maxwell] When my wife and I went to see Looking for Mr. Goodbar, during the murder scene a couple of guys got up and started walking out and one yelled, "This movie stinks!" He got applause from the entire audience.

[Laura Leff] Scott - You do know about the Titanic, right?

[Scott in KC] Seabiscuit vs. Iceberg

[Laura Leff] Scott - Good summary.

[Krledu] Who doesnn't know about the longest movie in cinematic history

[yhtapmys] A tout told me to bet on Iceberg

[Scott in KC] Laura, the movie or the real event?

[Laura Leff] Krl - Is it really? Next to the uncut version of Greed?

[Krledu] Hey bud

[Brad from Georgia] I once saw "Love Story" in the theater, and at the beginning--black screen, and you hear, "What do you say about a 25-year-old girl who died?" I said, "Try 'boo hoo hoo,' why don'tcha?' I got a fair laugh with that one."

[Laura Leff] Scott - Just responding to your <?>

[Laura Leff] Iceboyg

[yhtapmys] It leaves the other horses in the cold.

[Krledu]  

[Scott in KC] Oh, Laura, that was one of my typos I corrected. Sorry.

[Laura Leff] Freezes out the competition

[Brad from Georgia] "Psst--hey, bud. Ya got money on the boat? Nuh-uh."

[Krledu] It gives me a sinkin feelin

[Laura Leff] I'd rather see Greed again than Titanic

[yhtapmys] Laura, that was the first joke I decided not to post

[Krledu] Never seen Titanic

[Maxwell] Krledu Don't waste your time.

[Scott in KC] I bet Hollywood sunk a lot of money into Titanic.

[Laura Leff] Yht - That's for leaving it on the floor for me

[Krledu] Believe I have better things to do with my time

[Brad from Georgia] Krledu--The girl poses nude, the boat sinks, that's about it.

[steve .shimp.] Didn't Andy Warhol make a 24 hour movie?

[Laura Leff] Krl - You're not missing anything

[Krledu] Thats what I'm hearin

[Maxwell] It's amazing how much money that movie made.

[Laura Leff] Why in the world did it get Best Picture?

[Krledu] People watched 7-8 times

[Brad from Georgia] Steve--I've seen some movies that seem like 24-hour films.

[Maxwell] Titanic, not the Warhol.

[Krledu] in a row

[Laura Leff] Krl -   

[yhtapmys] And it didn't even have lines like "Tacos or Leave It"

[steve .shimp.]  

[Laura Leff] Maybe they kept hoping for an alternate ending?

[Krledu] Honestly my friends did

[Krledu]  

[Scott in KC] Did Titanic make more money than The Horn Blows at Midnight?

[Laura Leff] Krl - You might want to think about finding some new friends. Cool people like us. B)

[Mike Amo]  

[Maxwell] Am I remembering right...the ship is sinking but the hallways in the ship (I'm sure they have some kind of nautical name) are perfectly horizontal as people run through them?

[Krledu] Yea you guys have better tastes

[Laura Leff] Scott - I think so, but I'd have to figure out adjusted dollars.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Well, when the boat tips, it tips the cameras too.

[Maxwell] Ah...

[Maxwell] And ruins the effect.

[Maxwell] But makes it easier for the actors to run.

[Brad from Georgia] Know the difference between Jack and the Titanic? The Titanic tipped once.

[yhtapmys] Today, they'd just use CGI.

[Maxwell] Water should have been deeper at one end, too.

[Krledu] Thats awful

[steve .shimp.] Heheheh

[Krledu] Brad go sit down

[Brad from Georgia] Yes, sorry.

[Laura Leff] The difference between Phil and the Titanic is that he tipped over a lot of times

[Krledu]  

[Scott in KC]   Brad.

[yhtapmys] And the Titanic *liked* water.

[Brad from Georgia] There's an incredibly weird "Family Guy" on tonight.

[Brad from Georgia] Sort of the model for how not to be funny on a cartoon show.

[Mike Amo] I'll bet Phil and Remley would have gotten around fine on that tipped ship

[Laura Leff] So if Jack did Titanic as a skit, who would play what?

[Scott in KC] I wonder if Phil ever drank Titanic on Ice?

[yhtapmys] Don as Titanic

[steve .shimp.]  

[Krledu] Jack as the Leo Decapro part

[Laura Leff] Brad - Triplets of Belleville wasn't that funny, but it was good

[Brad from Georgia] Well...Don would be the boa--DARN YOU, YHT! DARN YOU TO HECK!

[Laura Leff] Yht - Yeah!

[Maxwell] Jack would take the lead, of course.

[yhtapmys] Frank Nelson as the purser.

[steve .shimp.] Nelson bossing Jack around as he tries to get into the lifeboat first...brilliant.

[Brad from Georgia] Not having actually seen the movie, I'm handicapped here.

[Krledu] Excuse sir.....YYYYESSSSSSSSS!

[Brad from Georgia] Dennis could sing the theme...if he could sound Canadian enough.

[yhtapmys] They'd put Mel as the Mexican on the boat just for the hell of it.

[steve .shimp.] Verna Felton as the unsinkable Molly Brown

[Laura Leff] If Jack is DeCaprio, who's Winslet?

[Maxwell] Are you in charge of the lifeboats?

[yhtapmys] Dennis

[Krledu] Mary

[Laura Leff] Maybe Sara Berner?

[Scott in KC] Jack would be Jack. Mary would be the girl? The pompus passenger would be....?

[Maxwell] Well who do you think I am, Dreer Pooson?

[yhtapmys] They wouldn't give Sara a lead role   

[Laura Leff] Scott - But they have to shtup in a car...I don't think Jack and Mary would be cast to do that

[steve .shimp.] Phil would be the jerk fiance Kate Winslet dumps for DiCaprio.

[Maxwell] Sara would be Mabel in the radio room.

[Krledu] She would sing the songs as the boat went down

[yhtapmys] But the phone operators could work in as telegraph operators.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Agreed

[yhtapmys] Exactly, Max.

[Brad from Georgia] Mr. Kitzel could be the lookout: "Iceboig dead a-hoo hoo HOO-head!"

[Mike Amo]  

[Scott in KC] Laura, the car would be a Maxwell, of course.

[Krledu] Of course

[steve .shimp.] Mel could make sinking noises.

[Laura Leff] Bien sur

[Mike Amo] "Luke at all the lox"

[yhtapmys] Well, the BOAT would have the Maxwell sound effects.

[Laura Leff] Blub blub blub

[yhtapmys] As they're trying to start it when it hits the berg.

[Maxwell]  

[Krledu] That would have been funny

[Scott in KC] I was thinking Frank Nelson would be the pompus boyfriend.

[Laura Leff] Rochester as the Captain

[yhtapmys] Why not Phil?

[Brad from Georgia] Terry Pratchett once talked about fate: "Once a group of peaceable puffins were traveling on an iceberg, little realizing that destruction was looming in the form of a great big iron ship."

[Krledu] Phil woul have been a better boyfriend

[steve .shimp.] Ronnie and Benita Colman would be great on the ship somewhere.

[Scott in KC] yht....Phil would be at the bar.

[Krledu] They would have been trying to push Jack off ship somehow

[steve .shimp.]  

[Laura Leff] Brad - Do you keep a Bartlett's of just Terry Pratchett quotes handy at these chats?    

[Laura Leff] Funny...the DiCaprio role was called "Jack"

[yhtapmys] I thought he was quoting from an NFL film.

[Brad from Georgia] No, but I'm a great fan of Pratchett's. Got to be on a panel with him once!

[Laura Leff] Brad - Of course, that would be a very large book...something like the collected works.

[Krledu] Who is Pratchett?

[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh COOL!

[Brad from Georgia] Terry Pratchett is the best-selling male novelist in the U.K.

[Krledu] What kind of books does he right?

[Laura Leff] Brad - I have tons of his books that I amassed in Canada, but not enough time to read them.

[Scott in KC] GMTA Laura. And Wisconsin is close to Illinois.

[yhtapmys] Does he write about gay wizards too?

[Krledu] ?

[Laura Leff] GMTA?

[Laura Leff] Yht - Are you thinking of Ian McKellan?

[Maxwell] LL Great minds think alike.

[Brad from Georgia] He is a fantasy writer most known for a series of comic fantasies set on Discworld, a flat world that is on the back of four elephants standing on an enormous space turtle's back.

[Laura Leff] Oh right...thanks1

[yhtapmys] No, Dumbedore or whatever his name is.

[Krledu] Okkk?

[Brad from Georgia] His wizards are more jolly than gay.

[Laura Leff] I didn't know Richard Harris was gay

[yhtapmys] Yuk.

[yhtapmys] McArthur Park really was melting.

[Krledu] I second that yhtapmys

[Brad from Georgia] BTW, one of Eddie Carroll's high-school classmates recently died: Robert Goulet.

[Laura Leff] Brad - Oh, and don't forget Tommy Cook splitting before the second recreation.

[yhtapmys] Is Eddie a Canadian?

[Laura Leff] Robert Goulet died?????

[steve .shimp.] You know, I'm distantly related to Robert Goulet. Never met him.

[Laura Leff] Yht - Yup

[yhtapmys] <how's that for a set up?>

[Maxwell] Yeah, a couple of weeks ago now, I think.

[steve .shimp.] Sad to hear fourteenth cousin twice removed was gone tho. Neat guy.

[Laura Leff] Dang...and he was a guest on the Benny show.

[Scott in KC] Brad...I saw him here at Starlight. What a voice Goulet had!

[Krledu] He was?

[Maxwell] LL That show was on just a few months ago here.

[yhtapmys] I didn't know that, Laura. Thanks.

[Laura Leff] Krl - Yup...just added the show to the video library recently.

[Krledu] A tv show or radio?

[Maxwell] TV

[Laura Leff] Jack's on a date, and his date dumps him to seduce Goulet

[Krledu] Haven't seen that one

[Maxwell] Told from both Jack's and Goulet's perspective.

[Brad from Georgia] Barbara and I saw him many years ago in Atlanta, in, natch, "Camelot." He was Lancelot; Richard Harris was SUPPOSED to be King Arthur, but was, um, well, indisposed.

[Laura Leff] Krl - It's in the video library waiting for you.    

[yhtapmys] D.r.u.n.k.

[Brad from Georgia] So we saw a substitute Arthur and a real Goulet. He was old for the part, but great.

[Krledu]   i get the hint, Laura

[Laura Leff] Brad - I suppose they could have just shown the movie at that rate.

[Scott in KC] Brad....I saw him in "Camelot," too.

[yhtapmys] You know, I actually remember the furour about him screwing up the U.S. anthem.

[Krledu] Hey Laura, by the way, remember last chat you mentioned something about you getting to read a manuscript for a book about Jack. One that his writers wrote but never published. Did you ever read it?

[Laura Leff] Yht - As do I

[yhtapmys] But, Laura, you're JUST A BABY!!!

[Laura Leff] Krl - I started reading it, and then got busy at work. Need to get back to it.

[yhtapmys] I read it on the internet.

[Laura Leff] Yht - I need some milk

[Krledu] Is it any good so far?

[Laura Leff] It's good...interesting to see it from his perspective...

[yhtapmys] That's Phil, not milk!

[Krledu] I just got to read the book that the Museum of Broadcasting wrote about jack. It was facinationg

[yhtapmys] Krledu, I found it in a used book store.

[Laura Leff] He heavily, heavily quotes from the shows. Would be good to have this book with a CD of the scenes he's quoting.

[yhtapmys] It's a great book.

[Mike Amo] I got to meet him in Baltimore a year ago, nice guy...signed my "Music Man" CD when Shirley Jones snubbed me

[Brad from Georgia] Now, see, I write kids' books, so when people ask me to read unpublished manuscripts, I read tons of kiddy dreck.

[Laura Leff] Oh BTW, there's a new book out about Jack.

[yhtapmys] There's reference to a Laura Lee in it.

[Mike Amo] Had to go look, lol, he signed it, "Hi Mike"

[Laura Leff] I've got to put a link up about it on the site.

[Laura Leff] Yht - Yeah, that's me.

[yhtapmys] Who wrote the new one, Laura?

[steve .shimp.] What's the book?

[Laura Leff] It's a collection of essays about Jack entitled "Well!"

[yhtapmys] Who did the forward?

[Laura Leff] Yht - Actually, Ron told me that it was my first edition of 39 Forever that inspired them to do that book.

[yhtapmys] They didn't get Kelsey Grammar did they?

[Laura Leff] Yht - The forward in the MTR book or Well?

[yhtapmys] In "Well"

[Laura Leff] Let me grab it and see...I think it was the editor.

[yhtapmys] Cool.

[yhtapmys] Usually, they get some star.

[Brad from Georgia] I've just ordered it from Amazon!

[yhtapmys] Is it in bookstores now? I'll have to look for it.

[Krledu] Who is the Author

[Laura Leff] It was the editor, Michael Leannah

[yhtapmys] Were they originally magazine articles or something?

[Laura Leff] Brad - Ah well. If you order it from the publisher and mention the IJBFC, we get a cut of the profits.

[Laura Leff] Krledu - It's edited by Michael Leannah

[Krledu] Kewl

[Laura Leff] Yht - No, they solicited for contributions many years back

[yhtapmys] I don't have a credit card so I don't order on line.

[Scott in KC] I am like Philsy....Any pictures?

[Laura Leff] Yht - Although they did lift some magazine articles by Jack

[Krledu] Who are the articles by?

[Brad from Georgia] NOW you tell me! Well, I can always order a gift copy.

[yhtapmys] It sounds interesting. As long as the articles aren't too pompous.

[Laura Leff] Krledu - Many different people...want a list?

[Krledu] Sure

[Laura Leff] Yht - I haven't read it yet, so not sure.

[Laura Leff] OK...hang on, let me prop the book open

[Scott in KC] Thanks, Laura.

[yhtapmys] Is one Quentin?

[Brad from Georgia] I'm an academic, so if I got invited to write an article for a book like that, they'd want something like "Semiotics and Hermeneutics of the Cash Nexus in the Comedy of Jack Benny."

[Laura Leff] Frank Bresee, Clair Schulz, Kay Linaker, Pam Munter, Mark Higgins

[yhtapmys] Brad, I've read an essay book on cartoons by academics. Zzzz.

[Laura Leff] B.J. Borsody, Charles Beckett, Jordan Young, Phil Harwood (great guy), Noell Wonfgram Evans,

[Laura Leff] Steve Newvine

[Scott in KC] Brad, you should write a book on Jack Benny.

[Laura Leff] Ron Sayles, Kathryn Fuller-Seeley, Marc Reed, Michael J. Hayde, Derek Tague, Steve Thompson, and Micahel Mildredson

[yhtapmys] I'm waiting for Gisele Mackenzie's estate to release the tell-all book.

[Laura Leff] There you go

[Brad from Georgia] No, I don't know enough that isn't already general knowledge--unless I could do something like "Jack Benny Changed My Life" and talk about ordinary listeners' memories of the show.

[Laura Leff] Yht - Yeah, but she was too much of a lady to tell.

[Mike Amo] Thanks to LL's advice, I got a copy of Fred Allen's book, Treadmill to Oblivion...great book!   

(some loss)

[Laura Leff] When we've got new people in the room, I'm more careful to keep it focused on Jack.

[Krledu] What episode is for next week

[Krledu] Next chat i mean

[Scott in KC] O have lots of Jack questions.

[Laura Leff] Does anyone mind that we stray off-topic like this? I figure as long as we're having a good time, it's good.

[Scott in KC] Oh I*

[Laura Leff] And related, should we schedule a time limit on the chat? Say 7-9PM Central?

[Maxwell] LL I'm good with whatever direction the conversation goes.

[yhtapmys] Scott, just ONE rehearsal!

[Laura Leff] I've always left it open, but is it more helpful to cap it?

[Krledu] I don't mind but its hard to chat when you don't know what your guys are talking about

[Brad from Georgia] Well, it's all connected, isn't it? Jack had a valet named Rochester, Nick Park was born in Manchester. And he had an English horse that sounded like Mel Blanc.

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Har har

[Laura Leff] Oh, I can connect anything to Jack, just like Kevin Bacon.

[Scott in KC] Laura, do the children of the Jack Benny cast ever get together?

[Laura Leff] Krl - And that's why I ask. Because a few people may be excited about a topic, but I don't want others feeling left out.

[Laura Leff] Scott - Not really. They all lead separate lives..

[Krledu] No its cool. I find it facinating just listening

[Krledu] or reading

[Scott in KC] Whinny....haw.

[Brad from Georgia] LL-You know, for some reason, I flirted with the idea of driving by Jack's old house while in LA. We could have done it easily. I don't know why I didn't, except that somehow it would make me sad in a way that visiting Jack's grave did not.

[Maxwell] When I don't know something about what is being discussed, you may notice I drop out. Usually I'm googling to learn something about the topic.

[Scott in KC] That's too bad, Laura.

[Laura Leff] Krl - If you're not familiar with Wallace and Gromit, you should seriously check it out. It's wonderful, especially if you like the more gentle humor of Jack.

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[Krledu] Ok well i do know about Wallace and Gromit. My preschool kids loved it

[Maxwell] I just found a bunch of Wallace and Gromit on YouTube.

[Maxwell] So now I have something to research.

[Maxwell] Because I know nothing about them.

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[Laura Leff] Scott - Not necessarily. I don't think I know of too many groups who transcend generations to gather, except for something like the Daughters of the American Revolution.

[Scott in KC] Crackin' toast, Gromit.

[Laura Leff] Max - Oh you're in for a treat.

[Maxwell] I can hardly wait.

[Maxwell] Just like you are if you haven't checked out Gunhild Carling on YouTube.

[Scott in KC] Max, you have never seen W&G?

[Laura Leff] And here's something that ties together Jack, Canada, humor, and the Marx Brothers: Stephen Leacock.

[Krledu] who?

[Maxwell] Never.

[Brad from Georgia] You can get a collection of the three early short films, beginning with "A Grand Day Out." It's nice to see the characters "evolve".

[Mike Amo] My computer locked up, sorry folks, kinda slow tonight...I'm open to wherever things go, and have no time limit

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Yes, you're right. I have to do that.

[Krledu] I've only seen 4 episodes of W&G

[Laura Leff] Krledu - that's about all there are.

[Brad from Georgia] Stephen Leacock is a famous and much-revered humorisitical-type parodist and writer.

[Laura Leff] From Canada

[Krledu] Ok Just making sure I didn't miss any

[Krledu] They are great

[Laura Leff] Groucho Marx introduced Jack to Leacock in vaudeville

[Krledu] My favorite is The Wrong Trousers

[yhtapmys] Brad, did you get to meet Janet Waldo?

[Scott in KC] Max, when you see them, look for a lot of visual gags.

[Maxwell] Oh, yeah...the second question. I don't mind it being open ended.

[Brad from Georgia] There are a lot of Wallace and Gromit bumper-type short animations originally done for BBC. They're on DVD, too.

[Maxwell] Scott Will do.

[Laura Leff] You can enjoy them in a completely different way, going from frame to frame

[Scott in KC] Brad, like Creature Comforts?

[Laura Leff] If you can find a copy of Leacock's "Nonsense Novels", grab it.

[Brad from Georgia] Watch Gromit's face--he doesn't talk, but he's incredibly expressive. Scott--sort of like Creature Comforts, but they're usually about a minute long. There's a Christmas series and a series of Wallace's inventions.

[Laura Leff] Very few books made me laugh out loud as much as "Nonsense Novels"

[Krledu] I love how Gromit can say so much with out saying a word

[Laura Leff] OK...thanks for the feedback. I sometimes think of the offshoot conversations as an opportunity to find out more things that you might like

[Krledu] An actor can learn a lot from watching Gromit

[Laura Leff] But wanted to make sure we weren't leaving out or boring anyone.

[Laura Leff] Krl - That's true.

[Scott in KC] Brad, I have the same DVD. I think they call them Crackin' Contraptions or something like that.

[Laura Leff] I think Harpo Marx was Gromit's inspiration

[Laura Leff] or mentor

[steve .shimp.] Hey folks, sorry to go quiet. Not left out or bored, just had to take care of a minor dental problem...!

[Scott in KC] Max, there are also a lot of double meanings in the dialogue, too.

[Laura Leff] Pardon me while I step out for a root canal

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Scott - Brits love that

[steve .shimp.] And I am big on tangents. Nah, broke a temp crown on my tooth.

[Maxwell] OUCH!

[Scott in KC] Dr. Frank Nelson?

[Laura Leff] Steve - Does that mean that you're not the king any more?

[Maxwell] I hate it when that happens!

[Krledu] yesssssssssssssss

[yhtapmys] A pivot tooth with gold?

[Laura Leff] Wider....wider.....wider....?

[steve .shimp.] No, but my molar has been demoted.

[Brad from Georgia] I'm zoning out. We got up at five this morning to fly back to GA. I think I'll say goodnight now so I can wake up and teach class tomorrow. It's been fun!

[Maxwell] Good night Brad.

[steve .shimp.] night Brad

[Krledu] Don't close your mouth your snapping at my ankles

[Brad from Georgia] G'night, folks!

[Laura Leff] This one's for George, Sam, Milt, Tack, Jeanette, and all the guys down at Hickey's bar

[Scott in KC] Happy Thanksgiving!

[Krledu] night brad

[steve .shimp.] what IS a pivot tooth anyway?

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[Laura Leff] Take care Brad!

[yhtapmys] They told a lot of jokes about them in the 40s.

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[Laura Leff] You know, I've never looked that up!

[yhtapmys] I noticed one in the Sierra Madre show.

[Laura Leff] Gee...did Scott just split?

[Krledu] Did we scare him away?

[Laura Leff] Thought he had to leave because Brad did?

[yhtapmys] Maybe he clicked on something like I did.

[Maxwell] It's a crown attached to a tooth by a pin.

[Laura Leff] Jack had a joke about that with Dennis saying goodbye, and so Jack leaves and realizes he left after the first act of a play

[steve .shimp.] Just looked that up too, Max.

[steve .shimp.] Mine didn't have a pin.

[Maxwell] Yup...I had no idea either.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - sounds unpleasant

[yhtapmys] I don't think they have those any more, do they?

[yhtapmys] Why would you WANT one?

[Maxwell] Not that I know of. They use adhesives now.

[Mike Amo] My computer keeps locking up...I'll get a new one eventually

[Laura Leff] Mike - If you press three buttons and step on the brake, maybe it will go.

[Maxwell] I have a mouth full of crowns.

[steve .shimp.] I'm going to request velcro when this one gets the permanent crown.

[Maxwell] But don't forget to say, "There's no place like home."

[yhtapmys] It must have been new in the 40s because there were enough jokes about them.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Must keep swallowing jewels

[Krledu] Groans at Laura

[Laura Leff] Sorry, I'm standing in for Brad

[Mike Amo]  

[Maxwell] That was beyond a groan.

[Krledu] Ya

[Laura Leff] But ANYHOW

[yhtapmys] Jack told some groaners tonight and got away with them.

[yhtapmys] I thought that was great.

[Laura Leff] Like Taco or Leave It

[Krledu] Yea but that was funny

[steve .shimp.] I don't know how well tacos were known in the US actually at the time. I've heard a You Bet Your Life where a mexican woman has to explain them to Groucho.

[Laura Leff] Before everyone starts peeling off (the wall?), do we have a request for next month?

[steve .shimp.] Christmas shopping!

[Maxwell] Krledu I wonder how funny most people thought it was. We didn't get a place that served tacos where I came from until the mid-'60s.

[Krledu] The Beavers to the show

[Laura Leff] Steve - I'll bet they were more known in LA/San Diego

[Maxwell] Christmas shopping!

[yhtapmys] The Josť department.

[Krledu] I love when Beavers do the show (50?)

[Laura Leff] Any particular Christmas shopping show? I think we've done shoelaces

[Krledu] Cuff links

[Laura Leff] Krledu - Maybe for January?

[yhtapmys] Dates

[Krledu] Ok

[Krledu] 51

[Laura Leff] Krl - I can flip it that way, but not Xmas shopping in January

[steve .shimp.] I like the dates one too.

[Laura Leff] OK, we've got a vote for cuff links and two for dates

[steve .shimp.] Which year is that?

[Maxwell] After the thread on The New Tennant, I'd kind of like to have one of those, too, sometime.

[Laura Leff] Oh right...we were talking about a New Tenant one

[Laura Leff] Oh, and I had two new years hug me yesterday!

[Laura Leff] That was cool

[Laura Leff] Christmas Shopping or New Tenant?

[Krledu] Which new Tenant

[Laura Leff] Or New Tenant in January and Beavers in Feb?

[Mike Amo] I wanted to ask about how things went yesterday...figured you covered that early on, so I can read back later

[Krledu] New Tenant in January, it jus fits

[yhtapmys] New tenant might work better in Jan.

[Laura Leff] Mike - Oh yeah...definitely.

[Maxwell] I agree with that.

[Krledu] But which New Tenant one, there are several

[Laura Leff] OK, Xmas shopping. Are we down to cuff links or dates?

[Maxwell] LL Pick one on New Tennant.

[Maxwell] Cuff links.

[Laura Leff] Max - I'll either figure it out or ask next month

[Laura Leff] Everyone vote on the Xmas show

[yhtapmys] How about the one when Alice fills in.

[Krledu] Cuff Links

[yhtapmys] Dates.

[Krledu] I love it when the kid imatates the Tout

[yhtapmys] We can hear about nature's deep freeze.

[Laura Leff] Now we've got 2 cuff links and 1 dates

[steve .shimp.] So should I be a stinker and vote for dates?

[Laura Leff] Krl - Oh, that was Harry Shearer. I love that...

[Mike Amo] Which hasn't been done more recently?

[Maxwell] I hope the cuff links are matching.

[yhtapmys] Are the cuff links stuffed with nuts?

[Laura Leff] We've got five people other than me, so we can't have a tie

[Maxwell] yht Stuffed with dates.

[Maxwell] I've already voted.

[Krledu] Engraved with DHW

[Laura Leff] Mike - Break the tie

[steve .shimp.] Dates stuffed with shoelace-and-cufflink wearing gophers.

[Laura Leff] Steve -   

[Mike Amo] lol, when were they done?

[Laura Leff] You're on the spot, man

[Maxwell] Worn by a turkey judge.

[Laura Leff] Hang on...looking it up

[yhtapmys] <bang!>

[yhtapmys] That was MelBlanc.

[Krledu] OOHHH

[Mike Amo] <applause>

[Laura Leff] Ah crap...need to do the electronic version...hang on...

[yhtapmys] Yeah, all we have is a cat or something on here.

[Krledu] Fall down already, you big ham

[Maxwell] *meow*

[steve .shimp.] that freaked me out. No one has used the sounds in awhile

[Maxwell] Sorry, steve

[yhtapmys] There aren't many to use.

[yhtapmys]  

[steve .shimp.] We need Benny-specific sounds like the Maxwell and polly etc.

yhtapmys nods

[Krledu]   that would be cool

[Mike Amo] I need Love in Bloom on a ringtone

[steve .shimp.] I'd love a "That's what I like about the south" button to click.

[Mike Amo] No rush though, I don't use my cell phone much

[yhtapmys] But Steve, it lasts longer than the chat.

[steve .shimp.] ...sometimes!

[Krledu] So did we decide on episode for next month?

[Maxwell] We're waiting for Mike to vote.

[Maxwell] Or somethign.

[Mike Amo] And I'm waiting on LL

[Maxwell] something

[yhtapmys] I theeenk.

[steve .shimp.]  

[yhtapmys] I still can't believe Jack tried the curtain-rod joke.

[Mike Amo] Who is waiting on her computer

[steve .shimp.] What's the question LL's looking up?

[Laura Leff] 12/2/51 on cuff links

[Maxwell] Which is working very slowly tonight.

(some loss)

[yhtapmys] How about the one when Alice fills in.

[Krledu] Cuff Links

[yhtapmys] Dates.

[Krledu] I love it when the kid imatates the Tout

[yhtapmys] We can hear about nature's deep freeze.

[Laura Leff] Now we've got 2 cuff links and 1 dates

[steve .shimp.] So should I be a stinker and vote for dates?

[Laura Leff] Krl - Oh, that was Harry Shearer. I love that...

[Mike Amo] Which hasn't been done more recently?

[Maxwell] I hope the cuff links are matching.

[yhtapmys] Are the cuff links stuffed with nuts?

[Laura Leff] We've got five people other than me, so we can't have a tie

[Maxwell] yht Stuffed with dates.

[Maxwell] I've already voted.

[Krledu] Engraved with DHW

[Laura Leff] Mike - Break the tie

[steve .shimp.] Dates stuffed with shoelace-and-cufflink wearing gophers.

[Laura Leff] Steve -   

[Mike Amo] lol, when were they done?

[Laura Leff] You're on the spot, man

[Maxwell] Worn by a turkey judge.

[Laura Leff] Hang on...looking it up

[yhtapmys] <bang!>

[yhtapmys] That was MelBlanc.

[Krledu] OOHHH

[Mike Amo] <applause>

[Laura Leff] Ah crap...need to do the electronic version...hang on...

[yhtapmys] Yeah, all we have is a cat or something on here.

[Krledu] Fall down already, you big ham

[Maxwell] *meow*

[steve .shimp.] that freaked me out. No one has used the sounds in awhile

[Maxwell] Sorry, steve

[yhtapmys] There aren't many to use.

[yhtapmys]  

[steve .shimp.] We need Benny-specific sounds like the Maxwell and polly etc.

yhtapmys nods

[Krledu]   that would be cool

[Mike Amo] I need Love in Bloom on a ringtone

[steve .shimp.] I'd love a "That's what I like about the south" button to click.

[Mike Amo] No rush though, I don't use my cell phone much

[yhtapmys] But Steve, it lasts longer than the chat.

[steve .shimp.] ...sometimes!

[Krledu] So did we decide on episode for next month?

[Maxwell] We're waiting for Mike to vote.

[Maxwell] Or somethign.

[Mike Amo] And I'm waiting on LL

[Maxwell] something

[yhtapmys] I theeenk.

[steve .shimp.]  

[yhtapmys] I still can't believe Jack tried the curtain-rod joke.

[Mike Amo] Who is waiting on her computer

[steve .shimp.] What's the question LL's looking up?

[Laura Leff] 12/2/51 on cuff links

[Maxwell] Which is working very slowly tonight.

[Mike Amo] Sane with mine

[yhtapmys] I'm on a purloined wireless connection that's slow.

[Mike Amo] Same too

[Laura Leff] Gad...you're not kidding. I asked my computer to find it and it said, "I'm thinking it over"

[Mike Amo] Thought I'm sane, I swear!

[Maxwell]  

[Laura Leff] And over and over and over and over and......

[Krledu]   at Laura

[Krledu] You have to be insane to chat here, at least a little bit

[Mike Amo] Cuff dates   

[Laura Leff] 12/13/53 on dates.

[Mike Amo] Will go with Cuff Links

[Maxwell] *whip*

[Krledu] Was that show done in Palm Springs

[Laura Leff] Handcuffs?

[Krledu] the one with the dates

[Laura Leff] Krl- Dates was

[Laura Leff] OK, cuff links

[Maxwell] Sounds good to me.

[Krledu] Cool

[Laura Leff] Hey, check it out

[Laura Leff] 12/2 will be the date of the next chat

[Laura Leff] 56th anniversary of that show

[Maxwell] Perfect!

[Krledu] Wow thats cool

[steve .shimp.] OK, that is reason enough to not mourn the dates!

[Laura Leff] Everyone wear cuff links to that chat

[yhtapmys] Where'd that come from.

[Mike Amo] I'll peek in from an Xmas party

[Maxwell] I don't have any. I'll have Jack go out and buy me a pair.

[Krledu] I;ll be going crazy that day, but I will be there

[yhtapmys] Laura, was that your gun sfx?

[Laura Leff] Where'd what come from?

[steve .shimp.] I'm lucky if I have cuffs!

[Laura Leff] Yht - It was maxwell's

[yhtapmys] How'd you do that?

[Maxwell] I was whipping Mike.

[Mike Amo]  

[Laura Leff] *slap*

[Maxwell] OUCH!

[Krledu] MMm should I buy the 1.98 cuffs or the 40 dollar cuff

[Laura Leff] I thought that was a watch

[steve .shimp.] click the music note next to the smiley, yht.

[yhtapmys] Oh, I thought it was a gun.

[Laura Leff] *whip*

[Laura Leff] It does sound like a gun

[Laura Leff] *whip*

[steve .shimp.] NOW CUT THAT OUT

[Maxwell] Sounds like a cap gun.

[Krledu] *meow*

[Laura Leff] *meow*

[Laura Leff]  

[Laura Leff] I want a sound of hysterical laughter for the LOLs

[yhtapmys] Yeah, we needs a better selection of wav files.

[Laura Leff] Where's Laughing Sal when you need her

[yhtapmys] So, it's the cuff links show next time!

[Laura Leff] I'll make a note to see if we can load any. Doubt it though for free chat room

[Laura Leff] Yepper!

[Krledu] I wish we had the Woody the Woodpeck laugh

[yhtapmys] I love all the Christmas shows.

[Laura Leff] Gosh Scott never came back, did he?

[yhtapmys] We need that like a moose...

[Krledu] needs a hat rack

[Laura Leff] I want the sound of a moose with a hat rack

[yhtapmys] That's a great screen name, whoever has it.

[Laura Leff] They just signed up too

[yhtapmys] I laughed when I saw it.

[yhtapmys] You have to be a fan to know it.

[Laura Leff] If a moose has a hat rack in the forest and there's no one around to see it, does it exist?

[yhtapmys] Krledu, I bought the Woody DVD. It's great.

[Krledu] I just love that laugh

[yhtapmys] I think I mentioned I found a Jack reference in one of the shorts.

[Maxwell] I've never had a Jack reference in my shorts.

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Max - I was trying to figure out how to say taht

[yhtapmys] <bang>

[Laura Leff] A little different coming from me...

[yhtapmys] There.

[Laura Leff] So what else Benny-wise is on everyone's minds?

[Maxwell] Well, it was something that had to be said.

[Laura Leff] Max - And better you than me.

[Laura Leff] I just know Jack

[Maxwell] And I don't know Jack.

[Krledu] I have a question that Im sure youy have answer before but..

[Krledu] Why did Phil Harris leave the JB program

[Laura Leff] Ahhhhhhhh

[Laura Leff] Many answers on that one

[Laura Leff] For lots of discussion, search the Forums new and old

[Laura Leff] Which answer do you want?

[Laura Leff] Phil's?

[Laura Leff] Al Gordon's?

[Laura Leff] Rumors?

[Krledu] They are all different?

[Laura Leff] Theories?

[yhtapmys] Quentin's.

[Laura Leff] Krledu - All different.

[Krledu] Rumors? that sounds interesting

[Krledu] Give me a couple

[Laura Leff] Yht - Nope, don't have his. At least I haven't found it yet. I may.

[Laura Leff] Krledu - Well, one rumor was that Phil left over money. That Jack wasn't paying him enough.

[Laura Leff] Another rumor was that Phil left because of a falling-out with Remley. Which led to Elliott Lewis becoming Elliott on his show.

[Krledu] That can't be true because Phil always said he got paid more that enough

[Laura Leff] The rumors have the least credibility.

[Mike Amo] What did Phil say?

[Laura Leff] Another rumor has something to do with Phil being angry that Jack was on a competing network.

[Laura Leff] Phil said that he and Alice wanted to slow down and have more family life.

[Maxwell] If the network thing was the case, then it took him long enough to figure that out.

[Laura Leff] Oh and another rumor was that Phil didn't have much to do on the show and got tired of it.

[Laura Leff] Maxwell - Right. These are the rumors...not giving them as the truth.

[Laura Leff] Just what people say

[Krledu] What do you think

[Krledu] Phil didn't have much to do on the show as the years went by

[Maxwell] I understand that. That seemed the least credible to me, so that's why I said something.

[Laura Leff] Well, Al Gordon told an interesting version of it at our convention.

[yhtapmys] But that was due to logistics, wasn't it?

[steve .shimp.] The budget for the show was trimmed because of TV, so Phil, with a successful show of his own was perhaps the least painful "budget cut"?

[yhtapmys] He had to be at one network then another.

[Laura Leff] He said that when Jack got all the money for the sale of Amusement Enterprises

[Laura Leff] Some members of the cast thought that they should have a piece of the proceeds.

[yhtapmys] Damned writers : )

[Laura Leff] Jack was tied up in court for a long time over whether it was income or capital gains, and the Supreme Court decided cap gains.

[Laura Leff] And Phil thought he should have a piece of it, and Jack said no. So he split. At least that's Al's version.

[Krledu] So you think he left because of money

[Laura Leff] And someone recently told me yet another version from another cast member...

[Krledu] And was he still on for his own show at the time

[Laura Leff] That Mary had, for some reason, turned on Phil and was trying to convince Jack that Phil was trying to take over the show.

[Laura Leff] Supposedly this cast member heard Mary say lots of bad things about Phil to Jack on the set.

[Laura Leff] But I find this a little hard to believe, because they sound fairly friendly on the air, especially in later years.

[Laura Leff] What do I think?

[Mike Amo] They did seem to do okay...

[Laura Leff] I think I don't know.

[yhtapmys] Well, whatever the reason, the show suffered.

[Krledu] Ya it seem Mary liked Phil, at least how it sounded

[steve .shimp.] Oh, Mary was a great actress (snicker)...

[Laura Leff] Welcome to the Rashomon of historical research.

[yhtapmys] Bob Crosby was very 50s.

[Mike Amo] Yes it did...Bob didn't have much flair

[Krledu] Yea but he wasn['t as good on the radio

[Krledu] He did ok on tv though

[yhtapmys] Exactly, Mike.

[yhtapmys] Bland like the 50s.

[yhtapmys] Phil came up in the 30s just as films and radio were getting wilder.

[Maxwell] Bob Crosby was the genial master of ceremonies type...that's why the band hired him to front it in the '30s.

[Laura Leff] Phil posed naked

[yhtapmys] They reflect their eras.

[Laura Leff] In the 30s

[steve .shimp.] What?

[Krledu] There is something on youtube about him singing in the shower

[Laura Leff] Too bad there isn't the sound of screeching tires here

[steve .shimp.] Posed naked for whom?

[Laura Leff] Krl - You got it.

[Laura Leff] Steve - Look it up on YouTube

[Krledu] Its ahhh.... interesting

[yhtapmys] Doo Wah Diddy : )

[Maxwell] I checked out that video. It's...um...interesting.

[steve .shimp.] Not sure I want to!

[Laura Leff] Krl - Kinda pre-Will Hays

[Mike Amo]  

[Laura Leff] Definitely like nothing you've ever seen before.

[Laura Leff] And likely won't again.

[Mike Amo]   , now that'll be an image

[Maxwell] Lots of showering.

[yhtapmys] Wow! Phil had sex videos before all those airheads of today!

[Laura Leff] Lots and lots of showering

[Mike Amo] Hope Betty Boop never did that

[Laura Leff] Yht - You ought to see the other things you get suggested when you pull it up

[Maxwell] Showering to the nth degree.

[Laura Leff] Mike - Actually, I can envision that

[yhtapmys] As long I'm not on it.   

[Laura Leff] But then again, I enjoy Tijuana Bibles

[steve .shimp.] I theeenk.

[yhtapmys] There's actually a video of a TV show I was on on YouTube now.

[Laura Leff] Showering like you've never seen it before.

[Laura Leff] Yht - With you on it?

[yhtapmys] Yes.

[yhtapmys] It was a show we shot in the mid 80s.

[Krledu] But back to Phil leaving the show, do think the radio show was as good without him

[Laura Leff] Yht - Link?

[Maxwell] Krledu No way.

[yhtapmys] I'd have to find it. Hang on.

[Krledu] I don;t think so either

[Laura Leff] Krl - Definitely not. But there's a number of reasons that the show was jumping the shark at just that time.

[Krledu] I wish we knew why he left for sure

[Laura Leff] I have a discussion about that in 39 forever Volume 2.

[Krledu] The show had lots of repeat gags in it

[steve .shimp.] Yeah. A lot of recycling. Lethargic/absent Mary. TV taking up a lot of the energy.

[Krledu] And it was a lot racier

[Maxwell] And no showering.

[Laura Leff] Krl - Becuase they were doing the TV show at the same time

[Krledu]  

[steve .shimp.] Does Phil shower with a peeled potato?

[Krledu] It just wasnt as fresh

[Laura Leff] Steve - If it is, it lathers pretty good

[Laura Leff] So here's a thought...

[Laura Leff] Maybe people enjoyed the show still in its later years because they weren't listening to it like we do today

[Laura Leff] Having to wait a week in between and not having heard the "borrowed" shows for sometimes years

[Krledu] Listening to it straigh through

[steve .shimp.] Oh, absolutely in the pre-rerun era.

[steve .shimp.] And, a lot of that recycled stuff is what we think of as "classic Benny" - the train station, etc.

[Krledu] Ya and Mary doesn't seem like the same Character

[Laura Leff] Heck, Best of Benny ran for a few years afterwards.

[Laura Leff] Krl - And she's sick a lot

[Maxwell] I know I was kind of stunned when I realized that several of the TV shows were reworked radio scripts.

[Krledu] I think the best was 49-50 shows

[yhtapmys] Laura, I think it's this one...

[yhtapmys] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9ZPtxg27Q

[Laura Leff] Max - A LOT of them were.

[Laura Leff] Yht - OK...I'll check that out.

[Laura Leff] Just copied it into the transcript.

[yhtapmys] I play the son.

[Laura Leff] You know...I'm thinking about it some now...

[Laura Leff] and probably, like Rashomon, the truth is somewhere in between.

[Laura Leff] There were probably a whole bunch of things that led up to Phil's leaving.

[Krledu] like?

[steve .shimp.] the perfect storm of circumstance.

[Laura Leff] Well, Phil probably wanted to slow down, since he didn't do much after leaving the show except for voiceovers

[Krledu] How was Phil when he left the show?

User Fred Allen has entered this room.

[Maxwell] He did a lot of guest shots.

[Laura Leff] And there may have been some issues over the AE proceeds, but it was just became more long-standing issue

[Laura Leff] Hello Fred!

[yhtapmys] Oh, Mr. Aaaallen!

[Laura Leff] And the hectic issue of going between networks may have just been a headache

[Krledu] What do you mean AE?

[Laura Leff] And the fact that the show was changing over to television

[Laura Leff] AE = Amusement Enterprises

[Krledu] Oh

[Laura Leff] So I wouldn't be surprised if all these tidbits played a role in a complex rationale for leaving.

[Laura Leff] Then you talk about it years later when the frustrations have all subsided/healed with the years, and it just becomes an issue of wanting to slow down.

[steve .shimp.] I'm disappointed Phil was so uncomfortable with TV. He could've been great, either in the Benny format or a reworking of the Harris-Faye show.

[Krledu] But the relationship between Phil and Jack couldn;t have been bad because Phil was on several tv shows later.

[Krledu] Yea i agree steve

[yhtapmys] I thought Phil could work well on TV.

[Laura Leff] Krledu - That's why even though Al's story is very specific, I don't know that it's the whole story.

[Krledu] He had the flair

[steve .shimp.] Just one regular episode and one of the specials, right?

[Laura Leff] Steve - IIRC yes

[Krledu] I thought he did more than that

[Laura Leff] Krl - Not that I recall, but I'd have to look it up for certain.

[Maxwell] Well, I have an early wake-up time, so I have to head on out. See you next month.

[steve .shimp.] OK, seeya Max.

[Krledu] Bye max

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[Laura Leff] OK. We're at the 2:30 mark...shall we call it good for this month?

[yhtapmys] OK.

[Krledu] Sure

[steve .shimp.] Yeah, good for me as well.

[Mike Amo] Sounds good to me

[Laura Leff] Sorry you didn't get more of the chat, Fred. I'll post it.

[yhtapmys] And Fred just got here,

[Krledu] So the cuff links episode for next time

[Laura Leff] Yup

[Mike Amo] Hi Fred

[steve .shimp.] Can't wait to discuss cufflinks next monght!

[steve .shimp.] month

[Laura Leff] You sound like John L.C. Silvoney

[steve .shimp.] Happy thanksgiving etc everyone.

[Krledu] I love that character

[Krledu] Happy Thanksgiving

[Mike Amo] Sorry I couldn't get to L.A. for the event, LL...I did ponder it

[Fred Allen] Yeah, I show up and everyone wants to leave

[Laura Leff] Mike - That's OK. You'll read the transcript.    

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[Krledu] Maybe its the name

[Krledu]  

[Laura Leff] Fred - Beeeeee Ohhhhhhhhhh

[Mike Amo] And my friend almost went from Van Nuys...she didn't know until I told her Friday, too late for reservations

[Krledu] Bye everyone

[Fred Allen] I used my Lifebouy

[Laura Leff] Mike - Ah too bad

[Mike Amo] Will look for another excuse to fly out    

[Laura Leff] Maybe Sal Hepatica next time    

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[Mike Amo] Pepsodent

[Laura Leff] Take care all! Happy Thanksgiving!